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Can your filter do this? Guy tows a car and used puro boss media as a tow strap, lol...

It's a thing, tear proof media, yeah within reason.


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I wanted to put the question to bed in my mind about the filtering media used in the Fleetguard LF16002 that will fit a lot of HEMI engines, my question to Fleetguard was does it use Stratapore filtering media, here is the reply I received "We had to do some digging, our engineering team confirmed this was originally made with Stratapore media. " well isn't that's nice it was originally made with there best filtering media, so I replied and again asked if it is still being made with there top of the line Stratapore media, I though I asked a simple yes or no question, so once I receive a reply I will post what they have to say be it day good or bad.... A reminder this filter is rated at 100% efficiency at 24.6 micron

EDIT: just received the reply from Fleetguard and I quote:

Hello,

Yes it is still being made with Stratapore!

Thank you,

Miranda Bradshaw
Atmus Filtration Technologies | Fleetguard®
 
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I wanted to put the question to bed in my mind about the filtering media used in the Fleetguard LF16002 that will fit a lot of HEMI engines, my question to Fleetguard was does it use Stratapore filtering media, here is the reply I received "We had to do some digging, our engineering team confirmed this was originally made with Stratapore media. " well isn't that's nice it was originally made with there best filtering media, so I replied and again asked if it is still being made with there top of the line Stratapore media, I though I asked a simple yes or no question, so once I receive a reply I will post what they have to say be it day good or bad....

Good heavens - if they "had to do some digging", there's no one left there that knows anything. My God.
 

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The Carquest Premiums at AAP are advertised at 20 micron at 99.5%. Do you use 10W-30 in anything? If so, they are clearancing Pennzoil Platinum in that grade for $18.95 a jug. You get any Carquest filter with that for free through the 19th. I picked up two jugs and two $15 EP filters for $41.

These are not synthetic media. The base filters are paper only, the upgrade is synthetic blend. This was published eariler.
 

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The smoke ,and bad air( hazardous quality),was even in NEW YORK,and as far as CHICAGO, I heard today. It was very bad on the lakeshore,Lake Erie today,where I am.It smelled like I was sitting around a camp fire and the air has never been that bad as today,never ever It's a bit better now cause the wind shifted a bit.I am a Canuck but never heard of DOMO ARIGATO,maybe it is latin? I have a sore throat from it,or both.( hernia,surgery earlier today)?
 
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The smoke ,and bad air( hazardous quality),was even in NEW YORK,and as far as CHICAGO, I heard today. It was very bad on the lakeshore,Lake Erie today,where I am.It smelled like I was sitting around a camp fire and the air has never been that bad as today,never ever It's a bit better now cause the wind shifted a bit.I am a Canuck but never heard of DOMO ARIGATO,maybe it is latin? I have a sore throat from it,or both.( hernia,surgery earlier today)?
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These are not synthetic media. The base filters are paper only, the upgrade is synthetic blend. This was published eariler.
This is true. It may not matter to some, though. I don’t wish to come across as contrary or obnoxious, but I have yet to run across any hard data saying that non-synthetic is unacceptable. I can appreciate that the questions surrounding it are worth exploring. I can also appreciate the apparent quality of fully synthetic media. The CQPs (and companion MSLs from O’Reilly) are very popular on BITOG. While that website is not the universal authority on all things lubrication, I do believe there are quite a few very knowledgeable people there, including industry professionals.

Yesterday I picked up three jugs of the PP 10W-30 and three P85060 filters for about $65, including tax. (The fully synthetic filters are free as well!) That’s hard to beat here in the beginning of the current oil crunch. If that filter is worth $10, then the oil is a little over $2/qt, and it with a good Noack volatility and a base oil profile of probably at least 50% GTL. My 4Runner, specced for 0W-20, very much loves this oil. Quiet as can be.
 
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I guess the fact every oil filter manu says paper filters have a much shorter oci isn't hard data? Why do you suppose that is? Cut open your own filters and you can feel and see why.
 
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Has anyone seen this before?

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I guess the fact every oil filter manu says paper filters have a much shorter oci isn't hard data? Why do you suppose that is? Cut open your own filters and you can feel and see why.
Firstly, I hope neither of us ever finds out our choice of filter was poor. I'm not trying to talk anyone out of a synthetic filter, especially from one of the better manufacturers. They're probably going to be a great filter.

I've cut probably 100 lubricant and fuel filters. Many different varieties. Paper is definitely different than synthetic. The shorter OCI could be related to any number of things, though I'm dubious of most mileage claims and the related testing. It strikes me mostly as marketing. I've rarely seen anyone run a 20k mile filter anywhere near that long, for instance. Is paper good for 10k and less than 12 mos? If so, that's more than enough for me. My longest OCI on any vehicle is about 6k, and not longer than a year.

The decision to occasionally use non-synthetic media is based on primarily two things. One, there's simply no scientific information available to suggest that "paper" media doesn't perform well enough to protect the engines I service. I understand there's anecdotal evidence, but I haven't seen it up close. Secondly, I look back at some of the engines I've had over the years that went hundreds of thousands of miles on true paper media that was inferior to the non-synthetic media we have today.

Do any OEMs use full syn and/or wire-backed media?
 
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You say no hard data, what hard data do you have that filters similar to when it is like new? I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything, because once it is your equipment nobody cares what you do to it except you. Someday we will have this info I am convinced, and when we have it, my guess micron ratings on older used paper filters will be worst then any rock catchers we see. Just looking at the microscope of the media and knowing it also has binders that fail with time, heat cycles, and oil acid, I wouldn't be surprised if micron ratings are gone after as short as 1500 miles. Hard data I have none, either way, no data proving that strategy is sound either.
 

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The issue of filtration effeciency and flow restriction is especially critical to Hemi engines for thousands of posts discussed here. It is not germane to "some of the engines I've used over the years".

This is a RAM FORUM - not a "some of the engines I've used over the years" Forum.
 

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It's poly 100%. It has the mesh and bright white media...

Thanks to you both.

Articles I'd read show only 2 Carquest Filter levels - anyone know if this "EP" is new?

Claimed efficiency level? I'm on the road right now, can't look.
 
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