Oil filters

[Curmudgeon]

Ok, I am seriously curious. On Royal Purple's site this filter is $35...on the site you mentioned here, they are like $13 or so. How can this be? To my knowledge, all sites get them from RP if they are authentic, I would think it would cost at least the $13 wholesale...thoughts? Maybe fake?

OR... the others are simply overpriced? I do an oil change about every 10 months so I don't sweat the price of some things. But I'm retired, wasn't always like this. And I highlighted the word cost.
"Price" is the money you pay at the check-out.
"Cost" is what you pay as the end result of your decision, good or bad.

I currently have 6 RP 20-820 filters in my garage, 3 came from the myautoparts123 site, 2 came from RoyalPurpleDirect, and one from Amazon.

All of them are identical physically, the filters as well as the little boxes they sit in, and all three have the same marking/stamping from the factory. The web site is very good at communicating, and shipping is very very quick. Use your best judgement, but I've been happy.

A person could always go to Walmart and get one of the oversize full synth Fram filters found there, the Fram Ultra Synthetic (XG prefix), or the one only found at Walmart the Fram Endurance (FE prefix). Both are very good filters and probably under $15, not counting any tax/ship fees.

NOTE: this graph is a couple years old but maybe still valid?
1. Fram Ultra Syn
2. Royal Purple
3. AC-Delco Ultraguard Gold

All 3 basically tied for 1st place. And I am not now and never have been associated with any company or organization.
"Change your oil regularly, always lick the spoon".

 

[abrookey]

^Also, with their free shipping on orders over $25 as well as $5 off orders over $25, I placed 3 of the RP 20-820 filters in my shopping cart, showed $36.97 shipped, but not counting state sales tax.

Royal Purple wants $35 per filter right now.

Ok, I just got 4 of these. My filters say "made in Mexico". Royal Purple I believe on their site say, "made in America". Am I being too nitpicky, or is there a difference?

 

[Curmudgeon]

Ok, I just got 4 of these. My filters say "made in Mexico". Royal Purple I believe on their site say, "made in America". Am I being too nitpicky, or is there a difference?

I just looked around and couldn't find "made in America" anywhere.

All mine, despite coming from 3 different sources, look exactly like this:

 

[JHoward]

Unless there is something different about the filter you mentioned, myself I wouldn't put Fram on a lawnmower. I have seen too many videos of different Fram filters be dissected, compared to other filters. The last time I used a Fram was many, many years ago. Just my opinion.

FRAM oil filters in the "FE" versions, are equal in comparison as Royal Purple oil filters ...

 

[JHoward]

Well, first step would be to update your info below your avatar. Either add your 5.7L or remove the 5.9, so we know what you've got.

Your 2010 is a gen 4 like many here. Before looking at brands, etc., you should know that you can replace the little Mopar filter with a noticeably larger one.

Burla above mentions the RP (Royal Purple) 20-820 filter. I have the same one.
A year or tow ago I changed from Pennzoil 5w-20 to Red Line 5w-30 and the RP 20-820 filter, and couldn't believe the difference. Far more quiet, and my hot idle oil pressure went from 33psi to 44psi. Out on the highway oil pressure is 64-66 psi.

These pics show the difference between a OEM-size Purolator Boss filter and the RP 20-820. A perfect fit, although you might find getting the larger one in and back out again to be a little tight, but it absolutely works.

Fram also makes 2 filters like this RP, one is only available at Walmart. Maybe someone will chime in and provide numbers for those filters, also very highly regarded, and all these are the synthetic spun-glass filter material.

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Yeh, like the FRAM FE 2 is an a carbon copy, in my opinion, of the Royal Purple 20-820 ... and I'm not for sure or certain what that oil filter is that you posted in your pic along side the Royal Purple oil filter is (Purolator Boss?) ... I've used the Purolator BOSS in the larger diameter filter size, for a few years ... they were then, an equal to the Royal Purple oil filters ...

 

[JHoward]

oil filter thread

There is some things to consider, most guys will likely agree spun glass is worth the extra. Mopar has different iterations, most guys who are in the know like the srt filter as an option. The GM study is hiding somewhere or taking down permanently, but you can see the patches on the results. Tragically there seams to be only one filter that hits all the desires, and even it isn't perfect. Of course in most applications there is little need to worry about oil and filters, but out hemi's seam to be sensitive to both. My issue with the Mopar srt filter, the only filter I'd run from mopar, is sometimes they seem to be paper and sometimes spun glass. You can generally tell if the media is white or yellow, white being glass.

Paper filters have binders that with heat cycles turn cardboard like, spun glass filters great from start to finish, I've tested them at 14 months and 2 years personally, that was RP 20-820 filters to match your hps oil. This filter will last as long as you need it, the only limitation would be if contamination was too high. They store good as well indefinitely if kept on place like a closet. Respected members have occasionally had an issue here and there, so again sadly it seams no filter no matter how good is without it's potential issues. The Fram endurance fe2 also is a filter close to the RP if you have a Walmart close, only verify the right filter is in there if you get one. The main difference is 6 holes instead of the more desirable 8 holes on the RP. Wix xp is also spun glass, but generally accepted with proof less desirable then the RP filter media.

Absolutely ...

 

[huntergreen]

Always check the Louvres inside the fram oil filters. I’ve had to return the last couple I bought. Appears Fram’s quality has already taken a nose dive.

 

[JHoward]

What I've noticed lately, is the filter that's inside the advertised box may not be the actual filter, as some "smart shoppers" have figured out that they can replace a better filter in a cheaper box at self check out without being caught ... or are they, really.

 

[Curmudgeon]

Yeh, like the FRAM FE 2 is an a carbon copy, in my opinion, of the Royal Purple 20-820 ... and I'm not for sure or certain what that oil filter is that you posted in your pic along side the Royal Purple oil filter is (Purolator Boss?) ... I've used the Purolator BOSS in the larger diameter filter size, for a few years ... they were then, an equal to the Royal Purple oil filters ...

I bought 2 of the Purolator Boss filters and even used one. Saw and heard no ill effects from it, I just didn't like the way it performed in the test I posted, that's all. Per that test the PB does not perform as well as the RL or the FE, and that was really all I had to go by.

 

[huntergreen]

Any thoughts on the M1 oil filter ?

 

[huntergreen]

Yeh, like the FRAM FE 2 is an a carbon copy, in my opinion, of the Royal Purple 20-820 ... and I'm not for sure or certain what that oil filter is that you posted in your pic along side the Royal Purple oil filter is (Purolator Boss?) ... I've used the Purolator BOSS in the larger diameter filter size, for a few years ... they were then, an equal to the Royal Purple oil filters ...

If the Fram FE 2 is in fact a clone of the royal purple, one might conclude that fram has been producing the royal purple filters for RP.

 

[Burla]

Not exactly, champ labs was bought by first brands who owns fram, but fe was a project at champ labs, so it would be mis leading to suggest fe was made by fram or fram plants. It's like saying redline who was bought by connoco is being made at kendall just because one brand was owned before the other.

m1 good filters but are paper/spun glass, so a shorter interval then spun glass. Not really sure on flow. Honestly it bugs me, why go to the trouble to make a combo, you cant save any money so why do it. See bobs.. Looks like m1 out of favor over there for good reason too.

 

[huntergreen]

Not exactly, champ labs was bought by first brands who owns fram, but fe was a project at champ labs, so it would be mis leading to suggest fe was made by fram or fram plants. It's like saying redline who was bought by connoco is being made at kendall just because one brand was owned before the other.

m1 good filters but are paper/spun glass, so a shorter interval then spun glass. Not really sure on flow. Honestly it bugs me, why go to the trouble to make a combo, you cant save any money so why do it. See bobs.. Looks like m1 out of favor over there for good reason too.

Tks burla .

 

[abrookey]

I just looked around and couldn't find "made in America" anywhere.

All mine, despite coming from 3 different sources, look exactly like this:

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Just an FYI. I found these online, like $8 each. I emailed the guy, he is a distributor for Alaska and Hawaii. He said he has a bunch, Royal Purple is stopping production on them, or already has

 

[Wild one]

Just an FYI. I found these online, like $8 each. I emailed the guy, he is a distributor for Alaska and Hawaii. He said he has a bunch, Royal Purple is stopping production on them, or already has

Got a link to him??? If you do post it up.

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[JHoward]

Just an FYI. I found these online, like $8 each. I emailed the guy, he is a distributor for Alaska and Hawaii. He said he has a bunch, Royal Purple is stopping production on them, or already has

Yeh, when I had recently spoke with an "tech" at Summit Racing, he made an commented speculation, that Royal Purple was probably discontinuing production of their oil filters when I asked if he could cross reference an Royal Purple oil filter for my current truck(v-6 GDI Japanese engine), and that was earlier this year ... he noted that there wasn't any for my application and there were many "blanks on oil filters" and for many other most common oil filters as not being available anymore.

 

[huntergreen]

Yeh, when I had recently spoke with an "tech" at Summit Racing, he made an commented speculation, that Royal Purple was probably discontinuing production of their oil filters when I asked if he could cross reference an Royal Purple oil filter for my current truck(v-6 GDI Japanese engine), and that was earlier this year ... he noted that there wasn't any for my application and there were many "blanks on oil filters" and for many other most common oil filters as not being available anymore.

I’ve read that speculation on the net. But until there is an official announcement from RP, we won’t know for sure. Could be negotiation tactic being used by RP.

 

[joesstripclub]

Yeah I saw that 94% rating to 20 microns as well.

• "Low-restriction synthetic blend racing media designed for high oil flow. The media features 94% efficiency @20 microns for excellent engine protection**"

In the RP site, they say the 20-820 efficiency is 99% for particle size of 25 microns, I kinda take that to mean at 20 microns, it too, is less efficient.

"The 100% synthetic micro-glass media we use to make Extended Life filters provides superior particle removal – with 99% filtration efficiency at as small as 25 microns. As a result the difference between Royal Purple and conventional oil filters is staggering."

But we all know what happens when we "assume"...... lol.

@Burla, what do you see comparing the specs of the RP 20-820 to the Fram HP16?

I'm a little late on this, but the HP16 cross references to XG2 according to Fram.

 

[joesstripclub]

Anyone ever tried a MicroGard Select oil filter? It’s supposedly 99% filtration at 25 microns which is same as 20-820. Not sure if the build quality is the same but maybe someone on here knows more about them

Pretty sure Wix started making the MicroGard filters for O'reilly a few years ago, so it should be equivalent to something Wix makes. They share part numbers so not hard to cross reference, but likely a little different to hit O'reilly spec and price point.

 

[Burla]

I’ve read that speculation on the net. But until there is an official announcement from RP, we won’t know for sure. Could be negotiation tactic being used by RP.

good news 20-500 0n sale. They are running sales on a lot of filters trying to get rid of them. The RP on Amazon is interesting, maybe an agreement on popular ones who knows?

Bad news is RP has taken down fitament chart and all good selling filters as they sell out, no 10-48 or 20-820 or most other filters. They are done, anyone wanting RP filters should do no now or forget about it.