Put 37” tires on stock Power Wagon

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Why is everybody so obsessed with a leveling kit. I like the look of a slightly raked pickup. I put 35's on my RAM. I'll change my profile pic soon
I agree. Would prefer to have the rear just a tad higher than the front. After I put the 1.5" front Thuren springs on my PW I thought ithe rear looked squatted and put a 1" spacer on the rear. Forget who it was, but a big name is suspension has made comments that from their experience most people prefer a slight rake (rear higher)....basically if the truck is truly level front to rear most people actually think the rear looks slightly squatted.
 

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I think for me it was more about the stock shocks and the miles they had on them. At 115k it was time for new ones so I ended up going with fox shocks and of course while searching for shocks Thuren came up a lot for these trucks. The more I read about the ride quality with the springs and shock package I ultimately ended up going with the 1.5in level and track bar set up. It has made a huge difference in the ride. And that was just going with fox 2.0 IFP shocks. Not that the wagon is bad from factory but it made it much better. As for the squat I will have once I put a load on it I will be putting air bags on to compensate for that.
 

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Why is everybody so obsessed with a leveling kit. I like the look of a slightly raked pickup. I put 35's on my RAM. I'll change my profile pic soon
Not to mention if you use your truck for any kind of work at all, as soon as you get some weight in a leveled truck it squats and looks terrible. At least an inch of rake for me
 

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I recently put 37" and I will go back to 35" once the tires are done. You give up way too much in articulation and everyday drivability. If you are willing to do 37" right with proper $5K suspension upgrades then it looks and works great. I have nearly 300K on my 2019 power wagon and I had 35" on it most of its life went to 37" just for a quick test and I can tell you its too much for stock power wagon with 6.4 Hemi. You can talk yourself into it being "good" but its really won't function well just look really good.
To me the issue isnt so much the fitment, as that can be fairly easily/cheaply corrected, but the overall drive-ability with heavier tires (in most cases anyway) and the detuned gearing. Im not sure how it is with the 8 speed, but with my 6 speed i cant even hardly stand 35’s…hell i wanted to regear with the stock tires.
 

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To me the issue isnt so much the fitment, as that can be fairly easily/cheaply corrected, but the overall drive-ability with heavier tires (in most cases anyway) and the detuned gearing. Im not sure how it is with the 8 speed, but with my 6 speed i cant even hardly stand 35’s…hell i wanted to regear with the stock tires.

After test driving a 6 speed Power Wagon I was turned off so much I nearly bought a Raptor until I drove an 8 speed and saw what a difference it was. The 8 speed is a huge difference in the 2500. In the 1500, meh, it's nicer but not a huge deal.
 

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After test driving a 6 speed Power Wagon I was turned off so much I nearly bought a Raptor until I drove an 8 speed and saw what a difference it was. The 8 speed is a huge difference in the 2500. In the 1500, meh, it's nicer but not a huge deal.
If my power wagon felt half as snappy and peppy as my half ton i would be tickled pink. I never drove the older half tons without the 8 speed, so cant compare those…but the wagon is a **** in comparison to the 8 speed half ton. Can only imagine the wagon with an 8 speed!
 

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I test drove an 8 speed PW and they definitely feel snappier off the line, but just couldn't pass up the deal on a '16 model they had on the lot. This was several years ago when the '16 was 3 years old with 24k miles on it. Yes, the 8 speed felt better but didn't feel $20,000 better (yes, I am cheap also...).
The 8 speed has a much lower 1st gear and is basically like driving an older 6 speed PW that has 6.00 axle gears! 2nd gear in the 8 speed is about the same as 1st gear on the 6 speed, and is why the 8 speed "handles" bigger tires on initial take off much better. However highway driving should be pretty much the same as the top 3 gears in either are basically identical ratios. This means that the truck will downshift just the same when hitting a grade or towing a trailer down the road regardless of being a 6 or 8 speed.
6 speed 4,5, 6 gear = 1.00, 0.82, 0.63
8 speed 6,7, 8 gear = 1.00, 0.84, 0.67
 

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However highway driving should be pretty much the same as the top 3 gears in either are basically identical ratios.

It may be a difference in programming, but after driving them both in pretty short order the 8 speed felt much more responsive in "speed up to merge" or "2 lane passing" sort of highway speed acceleration tests as well. I drove the 6 speed, a Raptor, a Tremor, the 8 speed, and the Silverado ZR2 in that order in a pretty compressed time frame. The 6 speed was the only one that was a hard pass for me due to the meh acceleration at passing speeds. The Fords were definitely responsive but the 10 speed didn't feel nearly as smooth as the 8. Chevy did a better job with their programming and the 6.2/10 speed was a pretty decent combo. I just didn't like the rest of the truck as much as the PW, but the drive train was solid.
 

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I get for some guys it is all about tricking out the ride. However, the difference between 33, 35 and 37 inch tires, for all practical purposes off road is negligible. From 33 to 37 is 4", so you gain 2" of clearance at most, and have to do a bunch of futzing around to get it. These are full size pickups, they will never be more than semi-capable off road machines. They are what you use to haul your off road machine to the trail head, not what you thrash trying to go up that trail. If you want real off road capability get a quad, SxS or rig out a Jeep, Landcruiser etc. Beating the hell out of a $80,000 pickup to fight your way into where a quad will cruise to with zero effort does not make a lot of sense to me. My 4x4 Honda Foreman fits in the back, under the canopy nicely. Clean and out of sight. Get to where the trail gets bad, unload it and away you go.

For all the issues over size tires create on one of these full size pickups, I just leave the stock height ones on and call it a day.

If you step off the tracks the snow is armpit deep. Doesn't matter how tall your tires are they aren't tall enough for that. The red nylon belly/skid pan goes all the way to the back and works like a toboggan.
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