Synthetic Oil

[Travis8352]

Beware of logging trucks on back highways. Up here they load em over 100k.

They'd steamroll us like a gnat on a whale's a$$. No inattentive driving in woods beast country

Ohh yes they load them heavy up in da yoopee

 

[Hemi395]

I remember you and Brandon were working on a way to add the shutters to your truck awhile ago. The thermostat restrictors are an easy 15 min swap,i'd throw the smallest one in and see what happens,you can always go up to the middle size if need be,but i'd start with the smallest one first. Running cooler coolant temps won't cure your high oil temps,but it sure won't hurt either

Definitely going to try the restrictor plate, just waiting for the time to swap in the v6 fan and grill shutters at the same time.

What 180 tstat are you running? Seems like they're all junk these days. I have a Mishimoto 180 that I was going to try before buying the restrictor plates but I saw several posts on the Ram FB groups of those failing closed. Figured Mishimoto is pretty decent quality but I guess not...

 

[Stefan N]

The "oil-Shell" is exiting Europe it seems like. This is how the new oil-free station looks :O No parking spots for ICE vehicles if you need something in the store...

Shell/St1 station replaced all gas pumps with 12 Kempower chargers

https://maps.app.goo.gl/r1U9tN8ThxyvthuS7Get 10 % discount on S3XY buttons, knob and stalks for Tesla:https://enhauto.com/?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=soci...

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[Wild one]

Definitely going to try the restrictor plate, just waiting for the time to swap in the v6 fan and grill shutters at the same time.

What 180 tstat are you running? Seems like they're all junk these days. I have a Mishimoto 180 that I was going to try before buying the restrictor plates but I saw several posts on the Ram FB groups of those failing closed. Figured Mishimoto is pretty decent quality but I guess not...

The stock e-fan might be all you need,i'd try it first before springing for the V6 fan,as it's my understanding it's virtually impossible to get the OEM V6 fan anymore,and the aftermarket ones don't have the greatest of reps.
Every once inawhile i play with some of the young guys in the mountains,and when that happens,alot of times the trucks locked into 3rd and 4th with the rpms between 4,000 and 6,000 with my foot buried through the floor for upwards of a 1/2 hour at times ,and i never have any issues with it overheating even when the temps are in the mid 90's. One of the old members Gary who hasn't been here in years,used to tow fairly heavy with his truck in Tennesse during the summer with just the OEM electric fan and never had any issues with overheating with a 180 t-stat.
Don't discount the OEM fan until you give it a chance,lol

 

[Burla]

The "oil-Shell" is exiting Europe it seems like. This is how the new oil-free station looks :O No parking spots for ICE vehicles if you need something in the store...

Shell/St1 station replaced all gas pumps with 12 Kempower chargers

https://maps.app.goo.gl/r1U9tN8ThxyvthuS7Get 10 % discount on S3XY buttons, knob and stalks for Tesla:https://enhauto.com/?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=soci...

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lol, well we have a different problem here in America, it costs about several billion dollars and only 8 electric stations will be built per every 2 years.

We burn down more EV stations on purpose then they can build.

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[HemiBrother]

Anyone running valvoline restore and protect? Seems to have a decent package and have seen a few videos on it on the YouTube. Also not a bad price point.

 

[Burla]

So lake speed has latest PUP 0w40 up, so yes PUP has changed specifically for Huricane engine. Less CA, more Mag, less moly, good to go, perhaps lower total tbn would be my guess, good 5k miles oil. I have seen any uoa's at BITOG so this was first verification, old pup is not proper for Huricane, this one is.

LAB RESULTS: Pennzoil Ultra Platinum vs Mobil 1's NEW Formula

There are three different formulas of 0W-40 Mobil 1, and one of them is a brand NEW formula. How do they compare to Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 0W-40?Let's take ...

youtu.be

 

[HEMIMANN]

So lake speed has latest PUP 0w40 up, so yes PUP has changed specifically for Huricane engine. Less CA, more Mag, less moly, good to go, perhaps lower total tbn would be my guess, good 5k miles oil. I have seen any uoa's at BITOG so this was first verification, old pup is not proper for Huricane, this one is.

LAB RESULTS: Pennzoil Ultra Platinum vs Mobil 1's NEW Formula

There are three different formulas of 0W-40 Mobil 1, and one of them is a brand NEW formula. How do they compare to Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 0W-40?Let's take ...

youtu.be

Mike, we sure the less Ca more Mg isn't an API SP thing? For 0W oils? Remember the big blow up with Red Line when they announced reformulation of 0W-30 to SP?

 

[Burla]

Yes but this 0w40 was late to the game. They really mandated the 20 and 30's and the 0w40's in that HD category were late to the game. SP and GF6a were in effect for 5 years now, but all of the pup 0w40's have shown high CA until that lake speed vid 9 mos ago. A few of those uoa's were late 2022 as well, still showing next to no mag and high CA.

Prior to Huricane engine, how many di turbos had 0w40 as their spec?

 

[HemiBrother]

So lake speed has latest PUP 0w40 up, so yes PUP has changed specifically for Huricane engine. Less CA, more Mag, less moly, good to go, perhaps lower total tbn would be my guess, good 5k miles oil. I have seen any uoa's at BITOG so this was first verification, old pup is not proper for Huricane, this one is.

LAB RESULTS: Pennzoil Ultra Platinum vs Mobil 1's NEW Formula

There are three different formulas of 0W-40 Mobil 1, and one of them is a brand NEW formula. How do they compare to Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 0W-40?Let's take ...

youtu.be

Always enjoyed watching lake speeds videos way better then watching people do a oil change and say it did this or that.

 

[knightjp]

would you recommended this while the vehicle is still under warranty coverage or stick to factory recommended oil weight until the vehicle is out of the warranty period. on a 2024 the manual straight up says only 0w-20 is recommended.

How long is the warranty? Most of the time, issues only crop up after the warranty period has lapsed. So running the oil recommended by the manual means by the time your warranty is up, the motor is already compromised.
I would check what oil the dealership uses and use that during the warranty period. Some dealers will just go by what they know works; just to make sure that a vehicle does not come back to them with warranty issues.
For instance, in my case, as long as I was taking the truck to the dealer for the oil change, they used 5w30 even though my manual said to use 5w20. But when I started doing my services outside the dealership, they sold me 5w20 oil which over time, resulted in the dreaded tick.

Check with a service technician at the dealership to see what they are using. Sometimes they might say that they are using what the manual says, but I can pretty much guarantee they're not.

 

[Yardbird]

I don't think I've posted this here before, but, if I did.....here it is again...lol

Several years ago I owned some business property on a US road. Part of that property was an older gas station that had service bays. Instead of spending a small fortune to upgrade the underground gas tanks to meet new federal storage tank regulations, I opted to have the tanks pulled out.

I continued to lease out the property to people that sold tires. While trying to come up with ideas to help the people leasing the property, and myself also, I thought about a quick change oil service in one of the bays.

I called a big oil distributor in my section of the state that serviced a lot of quick lube centers.

The man came down and looked my place over. Said we could make it work, and would be glad to get things going and supply all I needed to get going.

I forget what brand oil he sold, but it was something I wasn't really familiar with. I asked him about how good the oil was, and was it used in many places.

Get this.....He told me it was the same exact oil he sold to the Ford dealership that was about one mile from me, and they had been using it for years in their bulk tanks for oil changes.

I can tell everyone this...The name of the oil was not Motorcraft. Yet, it was used in the Ford dealership on all vehicles.

Must have pretty good oil, as I had bought a new vehicle from that dealership a few years earlier that came with a lifetime oil change deal. Kept that vehicle for many years and never had any mechanical problems or used any oil.

When you go to the dealer for an oil change, you have no idea what you're getting for oil unless you actually see them pouring it from a just opened sealed jug.

 

[Burla]

I don't think I've posted this here before, but, if I did.....here it is again...lol

Several years ago I owned some business property on a US road. Part of that property was an older gas station that had service bays. Instead of spending a small fortune to upgrade the underground gas tanks to meet new federal storage tank regulations, I opted to have the tanks pulled out.

I continued to lease out the property to people that sold tires. While trying to come up with ideas to help the people leasing the property, and myself also, I thought about a quick change oil service in one of the bays.

I called a big oil distributor in my section of the state that serviced a lot of quick lube centers.

The man came down and looked my place over. Said we could make it work, and would be glad to get things going and supply all I needed to get going.

I forget what brand oil he sold, but it was something I wasn't really familiar with. I asked him about how good the oil was, and was it used in many places.

Get this.....He told me it was the same exact oil he sold to the Ford dealership that was about one mile from me, and they had been using it for years in their bulk tanks for oil changes.

I can tell everyone this...The name of the oil was not Motorcraft. Yet, it was used in the Ford dealership on all vehicles.

Must have pretty good oil, as I had bought a new vehicle from that dealership a few years earlier that came with a lifetime oil change deal. Kept that vehicle for many years and never had any mechanical problems or used any oil.

When you go to the dealer for an oil change, you have no idea what you're getting for oil unless you actually see them pouring it from a just opened sealed jug.

Maybe a redline clone, literally.


No Not HP but who knows maybe professional series. All under the connoco Phillips umbrella. If I had a guess, I'd guess they don't have a real clone without looking into it. Ford goes there own way similar to Stellantis historically FCA moves. Both companies spit on dexos, which if you ask me was a mistake. But Ford likes to spec stuff even out of API umbrella if it has to, like not adapting new diesel specs for years. FCA didn't go with shell house brand that had clones all over the place, but notable went to Pennzoil and had an effect on formula specifically PUP 0w40. But I believe Ford wouldn't run junk, so I'm sure they had some thought into motorcraft. Not saying they are perfect, their overuse of blends I wouldn't say I'd opt for with such cheap synthetics available, but generally trust Ford. FCA uses blends all day long as well.

 

[mboymopar]

I bring a 5 qt jug of PUP to my dealer I get an inspection and oil change for $28.00.
That way I know it’s not coming from a tank.

 

[06 Dodge]

I don't think I've posted this here before, but, if I did.....here it is again...lol

Several years ago I owned some business property on a US road. Part of that property was an older gas station that had service bays. Instead of spending a small fortune to upgrade the underground gas tanks to meet new federal storage tank regulations, I opted to have the tanks pulled out.

I continued to lease out the property to people that sold tires. While trying to come up with ideas to help the people leasing the property, and myself also, I thought about a quick change oil service in one of the bays.

I called a big oil distributor in my section of the state that serviced a lot of quick lube centers.

The man came down and looked my place over. Said we could make it work, and would be glad to get things going and supply all I needed to get going.

I forget what brand oil he sold, but it was something I wasn't really familiar with. I asked him about how good the oil was, and was it used in many places.

Get this.....He told me it was the same exact oil he sold to the Ford dealership that was about one mile from me, and they had been using it for years in their bulk tanks for oil changes.

I can tell everyone this...The name of the oil was not Motorcraft. Yet, it was used in the Ford dealership on all vehicles.

Must have pretty good oil, as I had bought a new vehicle from that dealership a few years earlier that came with a lifetime oil change deal. Kept that vehicle for many years and never had any mechanical problems or used any oil.

When you go to the dealer for an oil change, you have no idea what you're getting for oil unless you actually see them pouring it from a just opened sealed jug.

I knew a General Service Manager years ago who over saw several different brands of dealerships, one of them was Dodge, he told me that the oil they used for quick oil changes was just standard API rated bulk SJ oil, but when it came to the oil used for warranty work they used what ever brand of oil that Mopar/Ford/GMC/Chevy required them to use, so you never know what oil the dealer is using even if the invoice you get claims XYX, all the cashier or SW knows is what the computer tells them it is....

 

[HEMIMANN]

All these true horror stories is why I still change oil myself. There was a time I was gonna give it up for lent until I found how sleazy these places are.

 

[Wild one]

Maybe a redline clone, literally.


No Not HP but who knows maybe professional series. All under the connoco Phillips umbrella. If I had a guess, I'd guess they don't have a real clone without looking into it. Ford goes there own way similar to Stellantis historically FCA moves. Both companies spit on dexos, which if you ask me was a mistake. But Ford likes to spec stuff even out of API umbrella if it has to, like not adapting new diesel specs for years. FCA didn't go with shell house brand that had clones all over the place, but notable went to Pennzoil and had an effect on formula specifically PUP 0w40. But I believe Ford wouldn't run junk, so I'm sure they had some thought into motorcraft. Not saying they are perfect, their overuse of blends I wouldn't say I'd opt for with such cheap synthetics available, but generally trust Ford. FCA uses blends all day long as well.

FCA used whoever was the cheapest bidder.Years ago it was Mobil ,then it was Shell,lately it's been Pennzoil.As long as it meets specs,the cheapest guy gets the contract.
Check out who they were reconmending back in 2014.

 

[Burla]

Well FCA defaulted on huge debt with mobil and thats why why they went to shell. I think mobil has a better marketing and populist opinion of quality, but hey I doubt mobil will ever sell FCA or anyone related to FCA a dam thing. Stellantis is on life support, they don't do something they will go the way of Pontiac.

 

[knightjp]

I knew a General Service Manager years ago who over saw several different brands of dealerships, one of them was Dodge, he told me that the oil they used for quick oil changes was just standard API rated bulk SJ oil, but when it came to the oil used for warranty work they used what ever brand of oil that Mopar/Ford/GMC/Chevy required them to use, so you never know what oil the dealer is using even if the invoice you get claims XYX, all the cashier or SW knows is what the computer tells them it is....

Well.. I know for a fact that the dealership over here in Dubai uses Mopar MaxPro 5w30, but they would gladly sell you Mopar Maxpro 5w20, if your manual says so and if you're doing the changes yourself.
I went to a parts store selling OEM American stuff to get an oil filter and oil for my truck today and the guy was just going to give me Mopar Maxpro 5w20. I told him no and I had already purchased the Havoline Pro DS Eco 5w30 from another place. My point is sometimes, its amazing how clueless some of the guys are parts stores or even service centres are when it comes to this stuff. Which makes it all the more important that consumers should educate themselves.

As a side note, I use the large Mopar filter on my truck. We only have OEM filters here in Dubai. I learned from the parts store that the OEM Motocraft filter for the 2010 Ford Explorer is exactly the same thing and made in the same factory. All that is different are the labels on the filter and packaging.
My brother has a 2010 Ford Explorer so that knowledge works out well for us.

 

[06 Dodge]

Well.. I know for a fact that the dealership over here in Dubai uses Mopar MaxPro 5w30, but they would gladly sell you Mopar Maxpro 5w20, if your manual says so and if you're doing the changes yourself.
I went to a parts store selling OEM American stuff to get an oil filter and oil for my truck today and the guy was just going to give me Mopar Maxpro 5w20. I told him no and I had already purchased the Havoline Pro DS Eco 5w30 from another place. My point is sometimes, its amazing how clueless some of the guys are parts stores or even service centres are when it comes to this stuff. Which makes it all the more important that consumers should educate themselves.

As a side note, I use the large Mopar filter on my truck. We only have OEM filters here in Dubai. I learned from the parts store that the OEM Motocraft filter for the 2010 Ford Explorer is exactly the same thing and made in the same factory. All that is different are the labels on the filter and packaging.
My brother has a 2010 Ford Explorer so that knowledge works out well for us.

If they are using qt bottles that may be true in UAE but if like here in the states they use bulk oil so you really have no idea who's oil your getting