These hurricanes chewing up bearings?

[turkeybird56]

I work on my own stuff, And if you got to pull a cab on a gasser to fix it , Its a massive POS that will cost the average joe without a 2 post lift in his shop a fortune to maintain. Its got a plastic ECU controlled thermostat FFS,

If you got money to waste and change your vehicle every 3-4 then its fine. But Guys like Myself that keep vehicles 10+ years will stay away from junk like this.

I normally change out my vehicle every 5 years. But with the GM motors exploding, Ford Tranny, RAM I6 DI Turbo and/or HEMI back with E Torque, puts me into a longer trend. Looks like at least 10 years on the RAM, since it was an extremely early build 5th Gen, built April 2018, bought Aug 2018, no E junkola. Makes it 8 years old actually in April. Looks like stays parked in driveway.

FTR: My motorcycle 21 years old this year. No fancy digital stuff, dashboards, integrated stuff, etc but it is Fuel Injected. Looks like that stay in the garage another 10 years. It is a Honda Wing Trike. I checked last year to buy a new one, means a trip to Dallas. And at 56K for a new one, nope, old and tried and true stays also.

 

[rowemesp]

I work on my own stuff, And if you got to pull a cab on a gasser to fix it , Its a massive POS that will cost the average joe without a 2 post lift in his shop a fortune to maintain. Its got a plastic ECU controlled thermostat FFS,

If you got money to waste and change your vehicle every 3-4 then its fine. But Guys like Myself that keep vehicles 10+ years will stay away from junk like this.

It seems that pulling the cab is common for serious engine repairs across most brands nowadays--not defending that design, but it's not uniquely a "Ram" thing. The thing is, how many blown-up engines are you planning on having? The new ones have 10-year warranties. . .that'll get ya down the road a spell before you have to think about pulling a cab. . .

 

[Docwagon1776]

It seems that pulling the cab is common for serious engine repairs across most brands nowadays--not defending that design, but it's not uniquely a "Ram" thing. The thing is, how many blown-up engines are you planning on having? The new ones have 10-year warranties. . .that'll get ya down the road a spell before you have to think about pulling a cab. . .

10 years or 100k miles, and only for the original owner. Just for clarification.

You're definitely correct in that it's not limited to any one particular builder. They are designing them for cost and efficiency on the assembly line first, everything else a distant second.

 

[DILLIGAF]

10y warrenty if you keep it stock like a peasant

 

[rowemesp]

10 years or 100k miles, and only for the original owner. Just for clarification.

You're definitely correct in that it's not limited to any one particular builder. They are designing them for cost and efficiency on the assembly line first, everything else a distant second.

Correct, but the first buyer usually isn't concerned about taking care of the next owner, especially if they're making a living with the truck. I figure, if it hasn't grenaded by 100,000 miles, you probably have a winner and it'll probably go longer (your mileage may literally vary Ram is betting on this engine with that warranty, so they do have some skin in the game. What other American brand has that warranty? I'm willing to roll the dice on it. Full disclosure though. . . I'm retired, I drive like I'm retired, and I use the truck like a station wagon. . .it's probably Ram's best possible use-case for successful ownership of this truck!

 

[Docwagon1776]

Correct, but the first buyer usually isn't concerned about taking care of the next owner, especially if they're making a living with the truck. I figure, if it hasn't grenaded by 100,000 miles, you probably have a winner and it'll probably go longer (your mileage may literally vary Ram is betting on this engine with that warranty, so they do have some skin in the game. What other American brand has that warranty? I'm willing to roll the dice on it. Full disclosure though. . . I'm retired, I drive like I'm retired, and I use the truck like a station wagon. . .it's probably Ram's best possible use-case for successful ownership of this truck!

I'd be more impressed if I hadn't waited 3 months and had to contact the office of the CEO to get a transmission replaced under warranty due to parts shortages. If you're using the truck to make a living, waiting for the Dealership->India->Dealership authorization times and parts back orders is going to be a real problem.

They know most original owners aren't keeping them 10 years, it's good marketing but they aren't putting much more skin into the game aside from a marketing budget since they made it non-transferable.

 

[Dusty]

I'm already seeing complaints of failures on the new six pack as well as the EV, but not motors. Mostly electrical and software related stuff. One guy was complaining he'd had his car 5 days and it already wouldn't shift into reverse, took repeated tries to shift into first, and then "service transmission" came up on his display. He's not alone. It's probably not a mechanical failure, but I haven't seen the resolution for any of them yet.

The "service transmission" message is a common indication of a software incompatibility issue for which a resolution is known and a recall issued.

Regards,
Dusty
2019 Ram 1500 Billet Silver Laramie Quad Cab 2WD, 5.7 Hemi, 8HP75, 3.21 axle, 33-gallon fuel tank, 18” wheels. Build Date: 3 June 2018. Now at 144444 miles.

 

[Dusty]

I dunno. . . I'm not a mechanic, but I understand mechanical stuff. I've also lived long enough to see a few things. I've owned a few cars (mostly all from new), including some that others would consider bottom-of-the-barrel brands. I've had NO major malfunctions with any engines, ever in my life (I'm 64). Many would considere these brands to be POS's, but that has not been my experience.

The people saying the Hurricane is a POS because of a few claims of early failures on forums like this is remarkedly premature, considering the vast number of these engines that have been produced. People usually post on forums if they're unhappy with their vehicle / engines, not when things are going well. Based on my experience in these forums for decades, the opinions posted often create a false narrative that these vehicles / engines are much worse than reality would have it.

Before condemning the Hurricane, lets see how this plays out. I've got a '25 SO Hurricane in my Big Horn. . .the truck and engine have been flawless so far (four months), but I haven't gotten many miles on it yet. If I do have problems, I expect Ram will take care of it.

I will note that at this point in the ownership of my new 2017 Ram with the 5.7, I'd had several recalls / service bulletins, and had been to the dealer repeatedly for a front-end misalignment issue--that truck ended up being trouble-free after the first six months of ownership.

These are mass-produced products. . . there are going to be some bad ones, but in my experience, I believe the overwhelming majority of owners will be happy with them. Just my two cents.

One picture does not tell the whole story nor represent a typical. I'm reminded of the "Ram control arms are made of plastic" story that was repeated adnauseam as if no steel was to be found in them. There's a small, repeatable contingent of folks who seem to glorify any negative reports and repeat them as gospel with what I guess is motivated by Ram hatred.

This is the first report I've heard of and at this point I'm skeptical until there's more evidence.

Regards,
Dusty
2019 Ram 1500 Billet Silver Laramie Quad Cab 2WD, 5.7 Hemi, 8HP75, 3.21 axle, 33-gallon fuel tank, 18” wheels. Build Date: 3 June 2018. Now at 144444 miles.

 

[Guy lIPSKY]

Ahhhhhhhh - another "pull the entire cab off to work on the engine" debacle. Same with Ford latest PowerStroke. But that engine you don't have to work on. Ford did it right, somehow, despite never (?) having built their own diesel engine.

DO you have a mileage that they went bad , i have one 6300 miles and runs perfect

 

[djhartm]

You guys are hilarious.

How many decades of complaining about the alleged ****** engineering of the 5.7 AFM lifter failures on this and other forums, and now you're ******** on the 3.0.

RAM stops the 5.7 for 2025 you'd thing you'd all be saying 'hallelujah', but what happens?

You scream that you want the 5.7 back.

Crazy!

I have both the 5.7 & the 3.0 HO & hands-down, the latter is the better engine.

One the former, 104k with 10k oil change intervals - no problems.

 

[MeatCurtains]

I wonder if it's lubrication or a bad batch of parts. I don't recall any complaints from the Wagoneers, but of course they sold like fifteen a year of those so...

Or bad oil routing. I've heard dudes talk about the 6.7 power stroke charging cams before the crank. Possibly a similar issue.

Theres one of those shop channels, Dave's I think, that has a deep dive video on it. I'm not sure if it was the start of the talk or he was bringing up the rear for clicks.

I'm really curious if it's a similar failing.

 

[ramffml]

You guys are hilarious.

How many decades of complaining about the alleged ****** engineering of the 5.7 AFM lifter failures on this and other forums, and now you're ******** on the 3.0.

Two things can be true: the 5.7 is not perfect, and the hurricane can be worse than it.

(AFM is GM's term, the 5.7 has MDS).

RAM stops the 5.7 for 2025 you'd thing you'd all be saying 'hallelujah', but what happens?

You scream that you want the 5.7 back.

Crazy!

I have both the 5.7 & the 3.0 HO & hands-down, the latter is the better engine.

No. It puts out more power.

 

[mikeru]

You guys are hilarious.

How many decades of complaining about the alleged ****** engineering of the 5.7 AFM lifter failures on this and other forums, and now you're ******** on the 3.0.

RAM stops the 5.7 for 2025 you'd thing you'd all be saying 'hallelujah', but what happens?

You scream that you want the 5.7 back.

Crazy!

I have both the 5.7 & the 3.0 HO & hands-down, the latter is the better engine.

One the former, 104k with 10k oil change intervals - no problems.

You've been here since 2019 so this shouldn't be surprising to you. Forums are where people go to complain. It's as simple as that. You're entitled to your opinion but there's no point in stirring the pot with a comment like that.

 

[CMV157]

What some of us need to understand is their are fake news agitators out there. I suspect some paid or provided benefit but can't verify that. I'm not even going to share the names of the major ones. All they do is throw out conspiracy theories and claim to have "insiders". Some with very successful YouTube channels because too many eat that stuff up and they make money off those views. I am in a bunch of forums and Facebook groups. The SST engines are not having lubrication or engine failure issues. It's amazing how these engines are holding up so far. What they are having is electrical gremlins that Stellantis still to this day hasn't gotten a total grasp with. Don't take a few folks "reports" to the bank. Look at the entire body of evidence. These engines aren't grenading. Such BS.

 

[HEMIMANN]

DO you have a mileage that they went bad , i have one 6300 miles and runs perfect

Read the OP

 

[Rico Dante]

And so it begins. The first (unverified) commentary from a guy who claims to be a dealer mechanic, replacing 11 hurricane engines so far. All bearing failures.

Some quotes to save you the effort of clicking:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ram_trucks/comments/1py44yl/2025_ram_1500_warlock_30l_so_hurricane_first_oil/

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I just traded in a grand Wagoneer for a ram 1500 tungsten. Both engines use needle bearings in the rock assembly. If you don't maintain the oil you're gonna strip one of those bearings and send those little needles through the engine. The sad part is that those needles are the hardest alloy in the motor. Having just read this post I'm pretty terrified because I leave in five days to tow a 7000 pound trailer to Florida from New York. Wish me well lads I hate to spend my months trip in a dealership parking lot halfway there! My truck is only two months old and I'm the original oil.

 

[Randy1]

This screams crapola quality

I have to wonder who in their right mind would design something like this for a pickup. I worked on yellow iron all my life and have never seen anything remotely this convoluted.

 

[Ocelot]

When I replaced my 2011 4.7 Ram almost a year ago with another used Ram, I wanted the Hemi because I tow our 23-foot camper. I knew I didn't want either the Hurricane, or the E-Torque Hemi and it took a bit, but I found my 2022 Hemi, which I think was the newest year Hemi that you could still get without E-Torque. So far it's been the nicest and best driving truck I've owned, and I'm 61 and have had a lot of them. I didn't want the long-term issues with turbos, NA for me. As a bonus, I even got the rare two-tone Mountain brown / black interior which I had seen once and really liked.

 

[Taifun7]

Word on the street is the engine has an oil pressure issue causing the bearing failure. The street said nothing more than that. A failed attempt at a new engine design.

 

[MeatCurtains]

What some of us need to understand is their are fake news agitators out there. I suspect some paid or provided benefit but can't verify that. I'm not even going to share the names of the major ones. All they do is throw out conspiracy theories and claim to have "insiders". Some with very successful YouTube channels because too many eat that stuff up and they make money off those views. I am in a bunch of forums and Facebook groups. The SST engines are not having lubrication or engine failure issues. It's amazing how these engines are holding up so far. What they are having is electrical gremlins that Stellantis still to this day hasn't gotten a total grasp with. Don't take a few folks "reports" to the bank. Look at the entire body of evidence. These engines aren't grenading. Such BS.

The lifters weren't failing on the CGI Cummins and it was bs until it wasn't.

Most people don't come to the internet to talk about how great their vehicle had been for the most part. If they do they get called a fanboy, delusional, or a liar when they have had a great experience.

It's hard to tell how many of these are having issues but they are having issues. Only time will tell how many of these articles and claims are based off of one or two issues and blown up, or how many are reporting actually