Thoughts on Method NVs and Nitto Ridge Grappler 35x12.50

[ZLAYER]

I’ll have to look and see how much clearance there is. But I feel pretty confident it’d be fine. I know I’ve seen a YouTube video with 35s and a -18 offset and no trimming. So definitely probably might work.

 

[Grand Mesa]

Since you don't live within snow country your tire choices are quite a bit easier than those of us that do.

 

[62Blazer]

Interesting... from what I've been seeing the KO'2 don't last long on the heavier trucks but with the 1500's you can expect around 60,000. I find it interesting that you switched to the Cooper's because the one knock I've seen on them is that they wear pretty fast. How many miles you have on yours? I do put quite a few miles on a year and want to find something that will last a little bit.

I ran two sets of BFG KO's on my Chevy 2500HD crewcab (which is the previous generation, tread pattern is basically identical just that the KO2's have a more aggressive sidewall tread). They were really good tires and I recommend them to everybody looking for that style. Both sets were 285/75R16 D rated with the first set on the factory 6.5" wide alloys and the next set on aftermarket 8" wide alloys. First set had 50k+ miles on them and still had reasonable tread on them. Second set had 30k+ miles on them when I traded in the truck and they had a lot of tread left...when appraising the vehicle for trade-in value the salesman even made a comment about the tires looking pretty new.....

I just put a set of Falken Wildpeak MT's on my PW. Really wanted a mud terrain on this truck as around here anything off-road usually has some mud and loose dirt, and I don't daily drive the truck either. So far I'm happy with the tires but have only put 1,000 miles or so on them.

Guy here at work recently put the Ridge Grapplers on his stock F-150. I'll have to ask him what he thinks so far. Not sure if he has 10,000 miles on them yet or not but I think the roads have been wet more than they have been dry in the last 2 months....

 

[CincyZach]

Hey, I put the coopers on sept 25th 2019. I have about 10k miles on them so far. Rotated them at 5k miles so I’m eligible for the 60k mile warranty.

That’s really why I went with them. 60k mike warranty and they are load Es with a snow rating. It was a must for me. I honestly couldn’t be happier. I would recommend them to anyone.

they are wearing very evenly (something I couldn’t get the ko2s to do). I expect them to last 45-55k miles at this rate

Thank you. That's what I'm looking for.

 

[CincyZach]

I ran two sets of BFG KO's on my Chevy 2500HD crewcab (which is the previous generation, tread pattern is basically identical just that the KO2's have a more aggressive sidewall tread). They were really good tires and I recommend them to everybody looking for that style. Both sets were 285/75R16 D rated with the first set on the factory 6.5" wide alloys and the next set on aftermarket 8" wide alloys. First set had 50k+ miles on them and still had reasonable tread on them. Second set had 30k+ miles on them when I traded in the truck and they had a lot of tread left...when appraising the vehicle for trade-in value the salesman even made a comment about the tires looking pretty new.....

I just put a set of Falken Wildpeak MT's on my PW. Really wanted a mud terrain on this truck as around here anything off-road usually has some mud and loose dirt, and I don't daily drive the truck either. So far I'm happy with the tires but have only put 1,000 miles or so on them.

Guy here at work recently put the Ridge Grapplers on his stock F-150. I'll have to ask him what he thinks so far. Not sure if he has 10,000 miles on them yet or not but I think the roads have been wet more than they have been dry in the last 2 months....

I hear a lot of positive feedback on the KO2's. I think when they changed to the more aggressive sidewall that they also must of went with a little softer rubber too. It seems that people with the heavier trucks now don't have much luck with them, but people with 1500's love them. They are in my top 3 of choices right now. I think I'm leaning towards the Falken Wildpeak A/T 3W. I haven't heard of really any negative reviews on them.

I hope he has better luck than I have had with the Ridge Grapplers. When I first got them they were pretty damn good in the rain. I loved them... They still look pretty new and have worn well. But it's like the rubber compound has changed after the wore down a little. It's like they started soft and got great traction and as they wear the compound gets harder and the traction becomes crap. Not really sure.. just know I'm not happy with them and will never buy them again.

 

[Grand Mesa]

I hear a lot of positive feedback on the KO2's. I think when they changed to the more aggressive sidewall that they also must of went with a little softer rubber too. It seems that people with the heavier trucks now don't have much luck with them, but people with 1500's love them. They are in my top 3 of choices right now. I think I'm leaning towards the Falken Wildpeak A/T 3W. I haven't heard of really any negative reviews on them.

I hope he has better luck than I have had with the Ridge Grapplers. When I first got them they were pretty damn good in the rain. I loved them... They still look pretty new and have worn well. But it's like the rubber compound has changed after the wore down a little. It's like they started soft and got great traction and as they wear the compound gets harder and the traction becomes crap. Not really sure.. just know I'm not happy with them and will never buy them again.

The same thing occurred with my running of the BFG KO tires. They got harder with wear and after just one winter season of age. Currently run the newer KO2 tires on my travel trailer, only.

 

[CincyZach]

The same thing occurred with my running of the BFG KO tires. They got harder with wear and after just one winter season of age. Currently run the newer KO2 tires on my travel trailer, only.

Well that is disappointing to hear. This is the first time I've heard this about the KO2's. Thanks for the info.

 

[22hemi13]

I would never in a thousand years recommend a 20-inch wheel. Also, you'll want 37's some day.



That's pretty common, they don't do well. Unpopular opinion that is going to rub some wrong. People getting 60k out of their tires run them bald.



General Grabber ATX has been a fantastic winter tire. I'm really happy with them myself. I ran the X3's this year in Moab. They were ok in Moab. Great in mud, good traction in the sand. Good on slick rock.

But I have observed, both the ATX & the X3 seem to like more air pressure for highway than my Toyo MT's did. They get soft and the sidewall will bulge fast. 18psi on the Toyo's was nothing. These tires, that looked scary.

I liked the looks of the Grabber X3 with red letters, but I won't be running them again. I easily blew a sidewall out on the Morrison Jeep trail where I shouldn't have IMO. I know the Toyo's would have been fine because I've run the Toyos in that crap before.

That being said, if you travel a lot on road, and want a quiet tire that handles the rain, snow, sleet, and ice really well, (and is an actual 3 peak rated snow tire) the General ATX is a solid affordable choice.

Two winters, still going strong. I do run winter/summer tires.

But I think I'll be keeping the General ATX's for some time as my road-trip/towing tire.

I just recently drove from Boise to Portland in all kinds of crazy winter weather, and these tires were just fantastic and confidence-inspiring.

They are good enough for dirt roads, but I wouldn't expect great performance in mud or for them to be very sticky on the rocks. They are an AT after all.

If you want an indestructible MT and aren't too concerned about wear and cost, buy a Toyo MT

I've run the sheeee-it out of those. My only complaint about the Toyo MT is that I just didn't get any real longevity out of them.

Right now I'm testing out BFG KM3's but I don't have enough miles or off-road time to give anyone an opinion about them, other than they're nice around town, lolol

I ugh, run a lot of tires. There are Nitto Trail Grapplers, Toyo's, KO2's and Falken's in my garage.

I want the best across the board.


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A while back, I ran the Toyo Open Country AT/II's in 35x12.50R17

They're alright. I never really was that impressed with them. I do think the Generals are better overall. As the Generals have better sipping and can accept studs.

Well this post is being shown to my wife. She thinks I go through tires lmao. She’ll never complain again

 

[Graygoose]

Well that is disappointing to hear. This is the first time I've heard this about the KO2's. Thanks for the info.

My buddy had a new Tundra, ran stock KO's almost 85k.....so he had great luck with them.

Course we've talked before, I have great luck with Ridge Grapplers.

 

[Grand Mesa]

Well that is disappointing to hear. This is the first time I've heard this about the KO2's. Thanks for the info.

That was the previous KO tires version, not the newer style KO2. My son-in-law had the same issue running the KO'S and still has them on an older Jeep. The rubber compound could have changed since with the KO2 tires.

 

[62Blazer]

I hear a lot of positive feedback on the KO2's. I think when they changed to the more aggressive sidewall that they also must of went with a little softer rubber too. It seems that people with the heavier trucks now don't have much luck with them, but people with 1500's love them. They are in my top 3 of choices right now. I think I'm leaning towards the Falken Wildpeak A/T 3W. I haven't heard of really any negative reviews on them.

I hope he has better luck than I have had with the Ridge Grapplers. When I first got them they were pretty damn good in the rain. I loved them... They still look pretty new and have worn well. But it's like the rubber compound has changed after the wore down a little. It's like they started soft and got great traction and as they wear the compound gets harder and the traction becomes crap. Not really sure.. just know I'm not happy with them and will never buy them again.

I think there are a lot of other variables going on when it comes to tread life. Driving conditions, driving style, exact type of truck, etc.... I have a cousin that ran almost exclusively rough back roads with lots of curves, turns, and stop and go, a lot of off-road, pulled trailers or hauled heavy loads regularly, and had a heavy right foot. He was lucky to get 20k miles out of any tires he ran. Somebody running the same truck but mostly empty and driving a straight line down the free way with the cruise on would probably get double the mileage.

 

[22hemi13]

I think there are a lot of other variables going on when it comes to tread life. Driving conditions, driving style, exact type of truck, etc.... I have a cousin that ran almost exclusively rough back roads with lots of curves, turns, and stop and go, a lot of off-road, pulled trailers or hauled heavy loads regularly, and had a heavy right foot. He was lucky to get 20k miles out of any tires he ran. Somebody running the same truck but mostly empty and driving a straight line down the free way with the cruise on would probably get double the mileage.

true. Even off-road is different from person to person. I’m happy with my $1k americus rugged mt lol. They’ve been great off-road and I’m off-road weekly and in all different terrain. Luckily I don't have snow and or rain so I think that helps make choices easier

 

[Alloway]

Man I would love to see someone be the test dummy with the 37/11.50 r 18 ridge grapplers on a +18-25 wheel!!!

Any takers? Haha

 

[CincyZach]

My buddy had a new Tundra, ran stock KO's almost 85k.....so he had great luck with them.

Course we've talked before, I have great luck with Ridge Grapplers.

Thanks for the input sir . Most seem to have good luck with the Ridge Grapplers... I'm just an oddball lol.

 

[CincyZach]

That was the previous KO tires version, not the newer style KO2. My son-in-law had the same issue running the KO'S and still has them on an older Jeep. The rubber compound could have changed since with the KO2 tires.

Oh gotcha. Thanks for clarifying! I think they must have changed the rubber compound when they changed the sidewall look on them.

 

[CincyZach]

I think there are a lot of other variables going on when it comes to tread life. Driving conditions, driving style, exact type of truck, etc.... I have a cousin that ran almost exclusively rough back roads with lots of curves, turns, and stop and go, a lot of off-road, pulled trailers or hauled heavy loads regularly, and had a heavy right foot. He was lucky to get 20k miles out of any tires he ran. Somebody running the same truck but mostly empty and driving a straight line down the free way with the cruise on would probably get double the mileage.

I completely agree with you. I might say useful tread life... I loved my Ridge Grappler's for about 10,000 miles, and now I'm not too happy with them as the wet weather traction has turned to ****! They still have a lot tread on them (look just about new), but for me the useful tread life is gone.

 

[Grand Mesa]

Oh gotcha. Thanks for clarifying! I think they must have changed the rubber compound when they changed the sidewall look on them.

Unfortunately, I didn't get the chance to find out if they perform better in extreme cold (below minus 20 Fahrenheit). We lost our Jeep equipped with a brand new set of KO2's on it when a family member in Gunnison, Colorado hit black ice, spun out, and crashed into a tree. I suspected driver error vs the tire, but in any case I already knew that the older version KO tires would harden up and wouldn't grip. All of the winter tires that I run on her vehicle now are studded. The KO2 is not studdable, but both the Duratrac and S/T Maxx can be. Studded tires here are legal all year.

 

[CincyZach]

Unfortunately, I didn't get the chance to find out if they perform better in extreme cold (below minus 20 Fahrenheit). We lost our Jeep equipped with a brand new set of KO2's on it when a family member in Gunnison, Colorado hit black ice, spun out, and crashed into a tree. I suspected driver error vs the tire, but in any case I already knew that the older version KO tires would harden up and wouldn't grip. All of the winter tires that I run on her vehicle now are studded. The KO2 is not studdable, but both the Duratrac and S/T Maxx can be. Studded tires here are legal all year.

Oh damn that sucks! Hope all involved were okay. We haven't got much snow here in Cincinnati, Ohio, it's been a fairly mild winter, which is just fine by me .

 

[olyelr]

Unfortunately, I didn't get the chance to find out if they perform better in extreme cold (below minus 20 Fahrenheit). We lost our Jeep equipped with a brand new set of KO2's on it when a family member in Gunnison, Colorado hit black ice, spun out, and crashed into a tree. I suspected driver error vs the tire, but in any case I already knew that the older version KO tires would harden up and wouldn't grip. All of the winter tires that I run on her vehicle now are studded. The KO2 is not studdable, but both the Duratrac and S/T Maxx can be. Studded tires here are legal all year.

Yea, studded tires... ****** me of I cant run them... then again, not sure who would stop me...

 

[Grand Mesa]

Nearly 4 years ago. Our Jeep on a brand new set of KO2 tires. No injuries. Studded winter tires is all that go on our cars for some 6 months every year. No sliding around issues ever since.