Tow chain

[Burla]

Since the above posts were specifically mentioning a chain to a hitch BALL and you didn’t specify otherwise, you can see how one would come to the same conclusion I did. Hitch shackles are safe, hitch pins are meh, as the pin can bend (it’s not designed to take the force from a source that flexes and doesn’t distribute the pulling forces across the pin as evenly as a metal attachment does) but will work in a pinch. Using a hitch ball as a recovery point should never even cross someone’s mind as a viable option, and WILL kill someone when it fails.

I did, I specified hitch, not hitch ball, if I meant hitch ball, I would have said hitch ball, only a darwin would use a hitch ball for a recovery. You mis read it. Hitch and hitch ball are two completely desperate things, the hitch is attached to the frame, like I said. A hitch ball is attached to the hitch, not the frame. I'm not sure how more clear I could have been, whatever bro. It may be possible for an accessory to adequately cover the ball and that may be an option, but I personally haven't ever seen that. If it locks and is attached to the frame, it is good to go. If the tires are pointed in the same direction, good to go.

 

[IRSmart]

I did, I specified hitch, not hitch ball, if I meant hitch ball, I would have said hitch ball, only a darwin would use a hitch ball for a recovery. You mis read it. Hitch and hitch ball are two completely desperate things, the hitch is attached to the frame, like I said. A hitch ball is attached to the hitch, not the frame. I'm not sure how more clear I could have been, whatever bro. It may be possible for an accessory to adequately cover the ball and that may be an option, but I personally haven't ever seen that. If it locks and is attached to the frame, it is good to go. If the tires are pointed in the same direction, good to go.

Sorry, “bro”, but most people don’t know when to use the terms hitch and hitch ball separately, or know the proper terms for all the components in a pulling situation (example, like when you incorrectly said a hitch ball attaches to a hitch, instead of to the draw bar ). Since other mongos above talked about hooking to hitch balls and yours seemed to be in favor of that, I thought that intelligent facts in here might be a good idea. It wasn’t a personal attack towards you, relax. My truck is a dedicated off-road rig and daily driver. I teach instructional trail riding. I know what I’m talking about. Trust me.

 

[misfit77]

Where u have in the picture looks fine to me

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[Sandevino]

The ONLY recovery point to use in a tow hitch is a D-ring shackle.

The one I keep in my hitch is a solid bar hitch mount rated at 10,000#. The D-ring itself has a working load limit of 4 3/4 ton.

Don’t use cheap shackle either. If you’re stuck and have some cheap ass Harbor Freight “shackle” hanging out of your class 2/3 hitch I’ll let the wrecker handle the recovery.

 

[bm02tj]

I pulled my brothers 3/4 diesel crewcab with my Jeep TJ (the pig is 5000lb)
with a 15 ft run I started sliding backwards as he came out the pull on the tow point would be 10 to 15,000 lb
and a trailer ball is not safe for that
Rated for a 10,000 lb trailer puts 1000 lb down load on ball and at most 1000lb pull not 10 to 15,000
be safe do not use the ball

 

[bm02tj]

not sure what what hat you pulled that out of but trailer hitches are designed pull trailers and if you read enough forum posts people overload the snot out of them without breaking. There's even videos of truck/trailers going out of control and the trailers taking the truck for a ride(picture what the Hulk does to Loki in the Avengers), the hitch doesn't even come apart let alone break off.
Trailer hitches like just about everything else when engineered has a minimum safety factor which is usually 3-5 times what it's rated for.

read my above post as you are so wrong

 

[IRSmart]

read my above post as you are so wrong

You won’t change his mind. Only thing you can hope for is not to get stuck near people like him. People have died from that recovery method. Just try and spread as much good info as possible, it’ll help to drown out the idiots.

 

[crash68]

I pulled my brothers 3/4 diesel crewcab with my Jeep TJ (the pig is 5000lb)
with a 15 ft run I started sliding backwards as he came out the pull on the tow point would be 10 to 15,000 lb
and a trailer ball is not safe for that
Rated for a 10,000 lb trailer puts 1000 lb down load on ball and at most 1000lb pull not 10 to 15,000
be safe do not use the ball

wow!! I never knew that towing a 10,000 lbs trailer only puts 1000 lbs of force on the trailer ball... if that was true then why would anyone need anything more than 4 banger engine to tow a trailer that heavy?
There is a difference between tongue weight which pushes down on the ball and the shear load of <10,000 lbs trailer pushing/pulling on the ball.
You need to watch the video I posted and the amount of shock load abuse a trailer ball withstood before it finally broke, the receiver was badly distorted before that happened. Your asking for problems putting those kinds of forces on anything. If a vehicle is that badly stuck, a winch should be used or call a tow truck if you want to be safe.

 

[Burla]

The ONLY recovery point to use in a tow hitch is a D-ring shackle.

The one I keep in my hitch is a solid bar hitch mount rated at 10,000#. The D-ring itself has a working load limit of 4 3/4 ton.

Don’t use cheap shackle either. If you’re stuck and have some cheap ass Harbor Freight “shackle” hanging out of your class 2/3 hitch I’ll let the wrecker handle the recovery.

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You do realize all of that weight will be on the hitch pin anyhow? So what the load limit of the hitch pin? Not fussing on it, but unless you drill and put two pins in which some people do, then all of the tow weight is on the hitch pin anyhow.

 

[Burla]

I brought gifts, tow hitch Pin recovery thread.

 

[bdc2]

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You do realize all of that weight will be on the hitch pin anyhow? So what the load limit of the hitch pin? Not fussing on it, but unless you drill and put two pins in which some people do, then all of the tow weight is on the hitch pin anyhow.

I don't really understand it other than the slip off factor. 1/2 " pin or a ball with a 1" shank. You would think the ball would be 5 times stronger. I have a pintle what about it?

 

[crash68]

You won’t change his mind. Only thing you can hope for is not to get stuck near people like him. People have died from that recovery method. Just try and spread as much good info as possible, it’ll help to drown out the idiots.

Idiots don't read or comprehend as proved by what's posted in this thread. I never said it was ok to use a trailer ball, just disputed how much force they're capable of withstanding. You also missed the part about clevis pin mount I have in my truck.
Not to worry this idiot knows when to call in the right piece of equipment to recover a vehicle instead of making a running start and subjecting both vehicles to extreme stresses.

 

[Burla]

Just like a chain, success depends on the weakest link, which will be the hitch pin assuming you have the right class hitch. Using a ball would be fine if you could lock the strap on it, I just haven't seen that, I'm sure some country boy has some rig somewhere, but it's not widely known that I know of.

 

[Burla]

Idiots don't read or comprehend as proved by what's posted in this thread. I never said it was ok to use a trailer ball, just disputed how much force they're capable of withstanding. You also missed the part about clevis pin mount I have in my truck.
Not to worry this idiot knows when to call in the right piece of equipment to recover a vehicle instead of making a running start and subjecting both vehicles to extreme stresses.

dont include me in that crash, I just happened in on this thread as I'm gonna happen out now. I missed the beginning. )

 

[crash68]

dont include me in that crash, I just happened in on this thread as I'm gonna happen out now. I missed the beginning. )

nope..
some people just don't look at the full picture, you hit the nail right on the head about pulling something is only as good as the weakest link

 

[IRSmart]

Just like a chain, success depends on the weakest link, which will be the hitch pin assuming you have the right class hitch. Using a ball would be fine if you could lock the strap on it, I just haven't seen that, I'm sure some country boy has some rig somewhere, but it's not widely known that I know of.

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[Burla]

OK Catch yaw'lls later.

 

[Sandevino]

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You do realize all of that weight will be on the hitch pin anyhow? So what the load limit of the hitch pin? Not fussing on it, but unless you drill and put two pins in which some people do, then all of the tow weight is on the hitch pin anyhow.

Good eye. I do realize the weight is held by the hitch pin which many people overlook.

The hitch pin in my pic is a Curt Class V hitch pin with a Road Master lock. All held in place in my Class V hitch, mounted to the frame of my 2500.

 

[bm02tj]

A tow rope or chain does not stretch a good recover rope or strap does
It also develops an extreme amount of pulling power
the 5/8 pin alone has 1/2 the strength when used by its self but safer than a trailer ball

 

[Gr8bawana]

Wow! The OP simply asked about a good place to store his tow chain and you guys turned it into a ******* match.