Who Has Installed Kicker PRAMCQ13?

[PCA4208]

Ever since my tax return hit I've been looking at adding a sub and amp to my truck. I already have upgraded all the speakers which made everything sound great but even at level 22-24 I feel like they just want more power. Been looking at the PRAMCQ13 kit from Kicker but want to justify it actually sounding good before spending that much.

Really only looking at this kit as it is plug and play. I have installed amps and subs before and just don't want to deal with having to tap wires and run wires all around the truck, whereas this kit could reasonably installed in an hour I would figure. If anyone has this kit or even just the sub portion (I know Greygoose does) I would like to know your thoughts.

 

[SitKneelBend]

Ever since my tax return hit I've been looking at adding a sub and amp to my truck. I already have upgraded all the speakers which made everything sound great but even at level 22-24 I feel like they just want more power. Been looking at the PRAMCQ13 kit from Kicker but want to justify it actually sounding good before spending that much.

Really only looking at this kit as it is plug and play. I have installed amps and subs before and just don't want to deal with having to tap wires and run wires all around the truck, whereas this kit could reasonably installed in an hour I would figure. If anyone has this kit or even just the sub portion (I know Greygoose does) I would like to know your thoughts.

I've had mine installed for 5 years now without issue. You can get it for much cheaper on HiFi Sound Connection by making an offer. My accepted offer for a new SRAMCQ09 was $418 (listed at $699.99).

So does the PRAMCQ13 just add another amp for the base 6 speakers over the sub only SRAMCQ09? Maybe @Graygoose knows and can hook me up with a way to buy the missing pieces?

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[PCA4208]

Yes Basically, this kit includes a plug and play speaker amp.

 

[SitKneelBend]

Yes Basically, this kit includes a plug and play speaker amp.

I want it, but only the parts I'm missing! Install was super easy and its been very reliable.

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[Graygoose]

yes the "kit" has a 200w amp as well. Its all plug and play, mounts on factory bolts.
Loved mine, had two.

 

[Graygoose]

the "complete kit" had a 6 channel DSP amp for the front speakers, did time alignment, processing and compression. and can use aftermarket speakers or stock paper wizzer coned speakers.

We have discontinued all the VSS lineup, so what dealers have is what they have left.

 

[SitKneelBend]

the "complete kit" had a 6 channel DSP amp for the front speakers, did time alignment, processing and compression. and can use aftermarket speakers or stock paper wizzer coned speakers.

We have discontinued all the VSS lineup, so what dealers have is what they have left.

Darn! I want it so maybe I'll buy the whole thing and sell the sub kit? Are they easily separable? They don't share any harness/power do they?

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[SitKneelBend]

Yes Basically, this kit includes a plug and play speaker amp.

Are you interested in the whole thing or just the sub and amp? If the latter maybe we can make a deal? No worries if not...

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[PCA4208]

Are you interested in the whole thing or just the sub and amp? If the latter maybe we can make a deal? No worries if not...

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Most likely just interested in the full kit. Also on the Hifi sound connection website how did you bargain them down? Did you send them an email or what?
https://www.hifisoundconnection.com...2017-Powered-Sub-Box-Enclosure-KIC18-PRAMCQ13

 

[SitKneelBend]

Most likely just interested in the full kit. Also on the Hifi sound connection website how did you bargain them down? Did you send them an email or what?
https://www.hifisoundconnection.com...2017-Powered-Sub-Box-Enclosure-KIC18-PRAMCQ13

No worries at all (so do I!). As far as make an offer, it looks like they removed it from their site but you can still try it on their eBay store. I did the math on what they accepted before and if it holds its a 40% discount. Apply that to the PRAMCQ13 in their eBay store and they "might" accept an offer of $750 (I'd at least start there).

I came across more talk about this setup that had some caveats. It may not work well with 2018+ 8.4" radios (UAQ/UAS). This is just for the multi channel amp though.

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[PCA4208]

I have a 17 and the radio I have does not have carplay or anything like that so I think I am good on that aspect. I did find the ebay store and the "make offer" button was still there so I put in a $750 offer so we'll see.

 

[SitKneelBend]

I have a 17 and the radio I have does not have carplay or anything like that so I think I am good on that aspect. I did find the ebay store and the "make offer" button was still there so I put in a $750 offer so we'll see.

Cool, let me know if/what they accept! I may end up buying the whole thing and trying to see if the whole 2018+ thing is an issue (I only found one report of this). I'm sure someone would buy the sub stage only.

I could also go the Kicker Key Amp route that @Graygoose has pointed me (I think) and many others to in the past. I'm just a fan of the plug and play simplicity of the VSS upgrades.

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[Graygoose]

Yes, the VSS front amp was sweet. Our OEM team sits and manipulates the DSP until they feel its perfect. Then we burn in that tune into each Ram kit, Ford is Ford specific, Camaro is Camaro, etc

So time alignment etc is dead on.

 

[PCA4208]

Ordered up the full kit from HifiSoundConnection. After some bargaining with them on eBay I had got the kit down to a reasonable 900. I think that's fair considering its a plug and play kit and I don't have to go rewiring a bunch of things. I'll probably be making an install and review post once it comes in.

 

[LoadedExpressRam]

Wish I would’ve known about this before I completed my system. I mean I like what I got but this looks way cleaner and more of a factory look. Please share the details when you’re done and yes that’s a heck of a deal you got on that one. All the ones I’ve looked at are between 1200-1300.

 

[SitKneelBend]

Wish I would’ve known about this before I completed my system. I mean I like what I got but this looks way cleaner and more of a factory look. Please share the details when you’re done and yes that’s a heck of a deal you got on that one. All the ones I’ve looked at are between 1200-1300.

I'm pretty sure he got the last one HiFi Sound Connection had! Once he bought the eBay item, the others disappeared (except for one that's mislisted) and their website says out of stock.

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[PCA4208]

I'm pretty sure he got the last one HiFi Sound Connection had! Once he bought the eBay item, the others disappeared (except for one that's mislisted) and their website says out of stock.

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Yep I definitely did. On the last offer that I put in for 900 I had mentioned to them in the "send a message to seller" that it was their last in stock of a discontinued item. The next day they accepted the offer lol. The kit shipped this morning so I should have it by this weekend. I'm most exited for the subwoofer because lately I have been disappointed by lack of bass at least enough to fill in the sound stage. I had put in the mopar kicker midbass in the doors but my ears aren't on my calves so I cant fully appreciate them.

 

[SitKneelBend]

Yep I definitely did. On the last offer that I put in for 900 I had mentioned to them in the "send a message to seller" that it was their last in stock of a discontinued item. The next day they accepted the offer lol. The kit shipped this morning so I should have it by this weekend. I'm most exited for the subwoofer because lately I have been disappointed by lack of bass at least enough to fill in the sound stage. I had put in the mopar kicker midbass in the doors but my ears aren't on my calves so I cant fully appreciate them.

I'm interested to hear your take on them after install. I actually contacted the manufacturer to see if they happened the have the missing parts I need on a shelf or know of anyone with remaining stock. No luck there so I'm thinking about adding the Kicker Key 200.4 and calling it good.

I looked at the install instructions and it looks like the multichannel amp is even easier to install then the sub one so I think you're going to be pretty happy with how easy it is to get up and running. Good luck!

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[Graygoose]

The KEY2004 will do same thing, just the OEM amp was already pretuned for your truck, as where the KEY will need to be ran through autotune, and wire speakers correctly. The OEM one can retain the factory wiring.

 

[PCA4208]

Got everything in yesterday and installed it today after work. Install went great, no issues at all besides seat bolts being tight as hell. Turned on the radio and it sounded great for all of 2 minutes. All of a sudden it got a large amount of static in the system, almost like radio noise on an old school car. Checked grounds on the connections and they were good. When I hit the "mute" button on the radio controls I can clearly hear static-ish noise coming through the speakers.

At this point I'm very disappointed as I just spend this much money to make my radio sound worse. I would reach out to Kicker but this is a discontinued product so who knows how much support they could give.