Zone 4 inch lift with Fox 2.0 coil overs now high in the front.

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Took the truck back yesterday and they agreed to remove the coil overs and readjust per Fox’s recommendation for a level height. The rep at Fox told me that 8 full turns of the ring is 1 inch.
They will have it realigned too.
Fingers crossed.
It’s 16 full turns while the spring is compressed in a strut machine. If they are scratched I would request new ones because they are designed to me done by hand. If they are for a 5th Gen ram they may not adjust low enough to achieve “0” of a 4th Gen to make the Zone Geometry aces. You want to be a minimum of 3/4” lower in the front but 1” lower in the front looks the best. I’ve set up so many of these it’s muscle memory at this point. The 6” lift has a preload spacer that get factored in the 4” Kit does not.
 
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Hi all,

I got the truck back yesterday and the Fox coil overs were reset to 0 and it sits nice and level. It rides and drives great outside of a little side to side wobble with the pitch in the roads here in Michigan.
I have new sway bar links up front and in the rear. I am going to assume that maybe the lift it's just what it is going to feel like. I will likely get a new rear sway bar to help with this, does anyone have a rear sway bar recommendation?

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Hi all,

I got the truck back yesterday and the Fox coil overs were reset to 0 and it sits nice and level. It rides and drives great outside of a little side to side wobble with the pitch in the roads here in Michigan.
I have new sway bar links up front and in the rear. I am going to assume that maybe the lift it's just what it is going to feel like. I will likely get a new rear sway bar to help with this, does anyone have a rear sway bar recommendation?

Thanks for all of the feedback.View attachment 553112
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Replacing rear springs will do way more for sway then a sway bar will. The stock springs are way too soft once you raise the center of gravity and a sway bar can’t really cover that up.
 
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Mrack, would you recommend longer coils for a lift and remove the blocks or just get the stock replacement spring and continue using the rear lift block?
 

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I get this too on the crown of the highway. So are you saying to go hellwig @Quick_Shifter on my 15 with four inch super lift?
Yes hellwig works wonders but @mrack is right a sway bar doesn’t work miracles. Super lift had spacers in rear if I remember right I see them so rarely. A set of +3” coils to replace any spacers would be a bigger upgrade.
On my truck I did core 4x4 upper and lower rear control arms, tracbar and swaybar endlinks. Fill length +5” springs with a hellwig swaybar and it really settled down any rear end nonsense
 

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Get rid of the spacers for sure. You need something a little stiffer then stock to keep the truck stable, really anything other then stock springs should do it.
 

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Yes hellwig works wonders but @mrack is right a sway bar doesn’t work miracles. Super lift had spacers in rear if I remember right I see them so rarely. A set of +3” coils to replace any spacers would be a bigger upgrade.
On my truck I did core 4x4 upper and lower rear control arms, tracbar and swaybar endlinks. Fill length +5” springs with a hellwig swaybar and it really settled down any rear end nonsense
Yeah I have the super lift springs no adapters in back did the setup with you and Nick.
 
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I replaced the stock coils and spacers with the Superlift +2"inch coils and it rides level just like I like it to. I think the next thing will be a Hellwig rear sway bar because I still get that little wag at 60+ when hitting bumps, its not jumping, it's like wagging slightly back and forth left and right. I have all new rear 5 point system, springs and shocks, so the sway bar is next.
 
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I haven't gotten the Hellwig sway bar yet, but the truck drives great now, I took it to a front end place (its all they do) where the guys working on them can do it blindfolded and have been at it for around 50 years.
The whole front end was off, the AZZholes :mad: who did the lift never bothered to trim the 5/8" from the end of the male thread on the tie rod end. The front end shop fixed that, then I had them check every front end bolt, most were loose, the lower control arms at the drop bracket were just over hand tight. I don't know how some places stay in business.

But a big thanks to everyone who chimed in with advise, it really is appreciated.
 

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I haven't gotten the Hellwig sway bar yet, but the truck drives great now, I took it to a front end place (its all they do) where the guys working on them can do it blindfolded and have been at it for around 50 years.
The whole front end was off, the AZZholes :mad: who did the lift never bothered to trim the 5/8" from the end of the male thread on the tie rod end. The front end shop fixed that, then I had them check every front end bolt, most were loose, the lower control arms at the drop bracket were just over hand tight. I don't know how some places stay in business.

But a big thanks to everyone who chimed in with advise, it really is appreciated.
Unfortunately we see it everyday. Nobody prides their work they show up for the paycheck. Half is not caring the other half is uneducated enough to complete a proper job. If you talk to them they’ll say I’ve always done it like this and never had a problem.
 
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Hey all,

I just got the rear Hellwig sway bar and set it in the middle position, all I can say is WOW what a difference, my truck is more compliant, no sway or sideways movement over washboards or railroad tracks. I cannot believe I waited this long after the lift install to do this. After the lift is when it started but wasn't horrible, add in 35's and then it got worse, just seemed to be all over in the rear end. I had already replaced the 5 link parts and had the Superlift springs and Fox shocks so i took the chance and its fantastic. If you lift your truck, just plan on the rear sway bar being replaced. Thanks to all who posted ideas and recommendations.
 

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Glad it is all worked out. This place has a ton of great guys who know their stuff. Make sure you write up a detailed Google review so maybe someone else won't get screwed by the shop[ that messed up your lift. A good review on the alignment shop that sorted out a bunch of the mistakes, would also help them out.
 
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