zone kit help

[bandar]

ok guys this is the story, I contacted Zone to ask them about there lift,
first I told them I have the 2011 RAM 1500 laramie 4WD but it comes with a 17*8.5 inch wheels stock ! I know it sound strange but this is how it comes to us in Saudi .
any how , about there 6" lift , I asked will my rims and tiers witch are 315/70/17 will be ok with there lift, they said they dont know and mostly it will not as something will hit something else I dont remmber realy but I can copy past the email if you guys like
so I asked again if I use an wheel adapter will help as am already using now .
also they said they dont know
then I asked if the 4 inch will be ok ?
also they said they dont know
so in the end did any of you guys had a problem with any of your lift kits running 17 wheels ?
and these are some pic of my RAM hope you like it and you can see the kind of rims I have .

 

[Captain McGillycutty]

Great looking truck welcome! You should beable to clear those tires with their 6" lift. Your tires are roughly 34.5" tall. You should have no problem. Aslong your wheels don't have a huge -offset. If to have stock wheel your fine. Hopefully smoothies will chime in too

 

[quietpeen]

i don't think its the diameter of the wheels that they were sketchy about. I think it had to do with not knowing the offset/backspacing.

 

[iSlacker816]

Sweet ram bro!

 

[Mad Cow]

17" wheels are the smallest wheels that will work with a zone kit weither it is their 4/3, 6/3 or 6/5 kit. The tire depending on your offset might require a wheel spacer. I run a zone kit so I know.

 

[iSlacker816]

6/3 lift? wtf?

 

[jwilliams82]

Way to flex that stock suspension!

 

[Thor09]

Nice truck man! I know the BDS and Zone lifts are very similar and my steering knuckles did push out a little bit further than the stock ones, making them closer to the tires. If you could measure how much room you have now, we'll have a better idea. I think a 1/4" wheel spacer would work fine though.

6/3 lift? wtf?

Yup 6/3 lift. I had that option when I ordered my BDS lift. My truck had a 3 inch stock rake and if I had put that 6/3 lift in, I would have been perfectly level. I got the 6/5 lift and still had a 2" rake...I then leveled my truck with the Bilsteins another 2 inches

 

[The Assassin]

+1 I needed to run a spacer with my Zone lift.

 

[Mad Cow]

6 front 3 rear

 

[bandar]

thanx guys for your comments , this is the emails i sent and was replied on so you all can see what the guy is talking about , i did understand where is going to hit or rub or where will i get the problem with my stock rims and tiers,
about the 6 front 3 rear kit , is in it to much ? whats the problem with the 6 front 5 rear?
and sorry my English is not that good , but what do you guys mean by (rake)?
and is there a big difrance between the kits in other companies ? i see there all has the same idea ? thats why i sent an email before to procomp and rcx to see there reply if am going to face the same problem with the zone kit.



-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Rogers <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 14:08:33
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Live Help Offline Message

We have never tried so I do not know as far as the wheels go.
With the boxes they would be strapped to a pallet and shipped that way.
The weight of all the boxes weigh 265lbs.

"Big Country"Mike Rogers
Zone Offroad Products
[email protected]
888-998-9663

-----Original Message-----
From: bander ibrahim [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 9:03 PM
To: Mike Rogers
Subject: Re: Live Help Offline Message

Aha. If I go with the 4 inch lift will it be ok then or will I face the same
problem.
And if it will be ok. Can know please the wight of the kit?
Last thing please. You told me that the kit comes in 5 boxs, is there a way
it can come in 1 monster pack or box or rapped the boxs togther.
Thank you for your time and effort.
Regards Bandar.

------Original Message------
From: Mike Rogers
To: Bandar Ibrahim
Subject: RE: Live Help Offline Message
Sent: Dec 19, 2011 10:32 PM


We have never test fit it so I am not sure on that one.

"Big Country"Mike Rogers
Zone Offroad Products
[email protected]
888-998-9663

-----Original Message-----
From: bander ibrahim [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 1:08 PM
To: Mike Rogers
Subject: Re: Live Help Offline Message

Thank you for your reply sir. Please about the stock 17 rims. If I get some
spacers will they fit or will I have a problem also .
Regards bandar
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Rogers <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 15:09:18
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Live Help Offline Message

Hello Bandar,
1. These two kits will come in 5 boxes and will have to be shipped
Motor/Ocean Freight to get to you.
2. Factory 17's will not go back on because the rim would be hitting the
tie
rod end on the knuckle.
3. We will not have any specials going on for the holidays. You might
check
some of our online retailers.
4. You will have to take your leveling kit off to install our kit. If you
leave it on and something goes wrong with the truck/lift we would not be
able to warranty it because you are getting more than the advertised lift.

Please let me know if you have any other questions.

"Big Country"Mike Rogers
Zone Offroad Products <http://www.zoneoffroad.com/>
[email protected]
888-998-9663


From: bandar [mailto:[email protected]]
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Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 4:09 AM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Live Help Messenger Offline Message

Offline Message
Message:
i want to ask about the 4 and 6 lift kit of the 2011 dodge ram 1500 4wd.
1. does the two full kits come in 1 big package ? as it will be shipped
overseas.
2 . i have read in your installation fourm that the 6 inch kit i cant re
install my 17*8 stock rims. can i know why please?
3. will there be any offers for the holydays ?
4 . i have a 2 inch leveling kit , do i have to take it out if i get your
kit?

 

[Thor09]

He's saying that your 17x8 wheels will be too close to the truck, causing rubbing on the new suspension parts. He can't give you an answer because he does not know how wide your tires are. You could probably get 1/4" wheel spacers and be ok or buy different wheels with less backspacing/more offset. My 17x8 wheels have 4.5" of backspace and have alot of room inbetween the tires and my lift parts.

"Rake" is how much lower the front end of your truck sits in comparison to the rear. Alot of trucks from the factory have a 3" rake, meaning the front is 3" lower than the rear. If you get a 6" front 5" rear lift, you will still have a 2" rake (2 lower in front). If you get a 6" front 3" rear, it will sit level with no rake. There is nothing wrong with either size of lift, it just depends how you want your truck to look. Does that help?

 

[Mad Cow]

Thor is correct. The 17" wheel is the smallest that you can run with the lift. I have my stock 20" wheels currently on my zone kit and I added a 1/4' wheel spacer to make sure there was no rub. I think depending on how tall you want your truck and if you want the back to sit higher then the front you should go with the 6/5 lift.

Here is a picture of my 2011 Ram with the zone 6/5 kit installed. Notice the front was lower then the rear.


I did not like the rake look and I did not want the rear to sit lower so I installed bilestine 5100 adjustable shocks and set them to max to raise the front of my truck 8" so it would look level. Here is a picture with the bilestines.


If you want it leveled look without having to spend more on different shocks you might want to go with the 6/3 kit.

 

[Thor09]

Ditto! My BDS was the same as Mad Cow's Zone.

1st picture is 6" front 5" rear (no bilsteins)

2nd picture is 6" front 5" rear (with bilsteins at 2.1" setting)

 

[bandar]

cool guys thanx for explaining , Thor09 you were very helpfull thank you very much .
I think am going with the 6 front 5 rear , and get me the shocks later on ,
but should I remove my daystar leveling kit , or can I leave the front spacers to level the new kit tell I get the shocks ?
is that a good idea or will it be stupid ? lool

 

[Mad Cow]

The front shocks will come with a 1" pre-load spacer. The best bet is remove your level kit and wait till you run the bilstein shocks.

 

[bandar]

thank you Mad Cow , will do that .