Cybertruck vs RAM 2500

[tron67j]

I continue to read up on EVs, mostly to keep aware. It is interesting that part of the effort is to make them just like ICE vehicles. Case in point, one option I am reading about is adding power and a drive system to travel trailers so the EVs can get the range back up to a usable level. It just seems that more potential for problems and higher costs appear every time someone suggests a new solution to the difference between the two vehicles.

Under very controlled conditions (looking at the larger semi) there may be possibilities for EVs to tow. For regular consumer use it just makes zero sense to reduce towing capabilities to increase towing range (bed mounted extra battery pack).

Perhaps companies need to stop trying to sell something they don't have and just say "Here is a EV shaped like a truck, for many who just use it for basic transportation it is fine." For people who towing and capacity numbers really matter, maybe stop trying to market to them.
If Ram does add a range extender like a rotary engine in the frunk (funny, autocorrect wants to change that to drunk) there might be hope that having two power options doesn't translate to higher repair issues. We will have to wait and see, but a non-plug in hybrid would be something to possibly consider.

 

[mtnrider]

Elon is a strange creature, and the people who buy his vehicles are strange too. I think Cybertruck is really him trolling Tesla fanboys. How obnoxious of a vehicle can he make and people will still line up to lay down money for one.

Definitely an interesting dynamic at play here. He is catering to the "woke" (don't take it personal anyone, it's just what it is) crowd with his electric vehicles but is becoming more and more conservative in his views and pushing back against that woke establishment. He is not getting favorable reviews on the truck from that side either.

Have a feeling this will be a big flop all the way around. Anti electric people won't buy it, woke people don't want to give Elon any more money, and it's ridiculously expensive.

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[NCRaineman]

Definitely an interesting dynamic at play here. He is catering to the "woke" (don't take it personal anyone, it's just what it is) crowd with his electric vehicles but is becoming more and more conservative in his views and pushing back against that woke establishment.

Yep, dude is a genius. Quirky as hell, but most geniuses are. He pandered to the green crowd with Tesla then used the money they gave him to buy Twitter. Crazy smart move, and sly as a fox.

 

[CaptStumpy]

looking at the real world specs, and cybertruck pushed the envelope in a few ways. 1. it uses 48-volts, 2. 800-volts, 3. 4680 battery cells, and yes, 4. stainless steel. so it is really nothing like other trucks. we can compare it, but its apples and oranges in many ways. I wouldn't want to own one, but its not going to fail.

 

[ramffml]

Yep, dude is a genius. Quirky as hell, but most geniuses are. He pandered to the green crowd with Tesla then used the money they gave him to buy Twitter. Crazy smart move, and sly as a fox.

I don't think he's genius at all. He has (had) some good business smarts in the past but his real strength is in "vision", surrounding himself with smart engineers, and having the courage to try something new. He's a massive risk taker, and very, very driven (sleeping on the factory floor).

He also has a potty mouth.

 

[Wild one]

I don't think he's genius at all. He has (had) some good business smarts in the past but his real strength is in "vision", surrounding himself with smart engineers, and having the courage to try something new. He's a massive risk taker, and very, very driven (sleeping on the factory floor).

He also has a potty mouth.

He supposedly has or had ties to southern Sask,as his grand parents on his Moms side lived in the Regina area,and he spent several summers as a kid up here.
I also remember reading an article on him a few years ago,and apparently he's slightly autistic,if that's true,that might explain some of his bizarre behavior at times,lol

 

[mtnrider]

I don't think he's genius at all. He has (had) some good business smarts in the past but his real strength is in "vision", surrounding himself with smart engineers, and having the courage to try something new. He's a massive risk taker, and very, very driven (sleeping on the factory floor).

He also has a potty mouth.

I love his potty mouth! Him telling Disney to F Off made my year! I'd give him my business just based on the fact he has the balls to not cave to the wokeness in this country....

 

[ramffml]

I love his potty mouth! Him telling Disney to F Off made my year! I'd give him my business just based on the fact he has the balls to not cave to the wokeness in this country....

I'm all for standing up to wokeness. But what is the intent of him saying that? Because he could have said the same thing, politely, and had more effect. Now all he's done is given people yet another reason to hate him and write off the rest of what he says and does. Same thing with the ped0 comments and half of what he writes on twitter these days, a lot of it is over the top and terribly immature.

Something something "catch more flies with honey" etc.

 

[tjfdesmo]

He's not very anti-woke seeing as how if you take away the revenue from selling Al Gore carbon credits, and the EV subsidies Tesla would be in a very different situation. Not sure if Tesla is licensing their charge format, or if he is giving that free gratis.

 

[crash68]

Not sure if Tesla is licensing their charge format, or if he is giving that free gratis.

The NACS or Tesla charger is now the SAE J3400 standard. Something the government should have mandated along with wanting to phase in EVs, all EVs and charging stations need to be compatible with each other, along with not allowing the company that owns them to limit the charger capacity based on the manufacturer of the vehicle.
It wouldn't benefit Musk to shut other manufacturers out of Tesla charging stations as the other manufacturers will begin to outpace them. Tesla stands to make more money in the long run with everyone using the NACS charging then to be eventually squeezed out because those are the only vehicles using that standard.

 

[HEMIMANN]

Yup - that was IBM's mistake not sharing software when they owned pc market.

 

[4xdad]

It will be interesting to see what the future brings for ev trucks. Especially when the el toro poo poo is cleared.

 

[tron67j]

I'm all for standing up to wokeness. But what is the intent of him saying that? Because he could have said the same thing, politely, and had more effect. Now all he's done is given people yet another reason to hate him and write off the rest of what he says and does. Same thing with the ped0 comments and half of what he writes on twitter these days, a lot of it is over the top and terribly immature.

Something something "catch more flies with honey" etc.

Agree, it seems more people are finding that the only way to get through life is to jettison respect for others who don't strictly adhere to some ideology. Everyone is entitled to their opinions and allowed to pursue their goals. But before the flinging of labels and other less than courteous discussions ramp up more, maybe we can just go back to discussing trucks.

 

[tron67j]

Meanwhile , back at the ranch, I am very happy to see the CT shift to a 48 volt system. Like, what a no brainer. Less wiring, less heat, like many benefits there.

 

[4xdad]

Yes polite discussion seems to be a thing of the past

 

[NCRaineman]

Yup - that was IBM's mistake not sharing software when they owned pc market.

Remember when cell phones started becoming popular? Ten thousand different adapters. Took twenty years for the industry to standardize. You'd think some folks in the technology sector would have LEARNED from that debacle and pushed for one charging interface from the start.

 

[tron67j]

How about Betamax and VHS. Beta was smaller, better video quality, and longer video time. However Sony sought to make a boatload of money by charging any other company who wanted to manufacture videos or equipment. JVC on the other hand let everyone use their format and the rest is history.

Plus VHS-C, videodisc, etc. Choices!

 

[tjfdesmo]

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[rule18]

Now that we've had to get rid of a few posts, I'll remind thread participants to stay on topic and away from political commentary.

 

[tron67j]

And, now, we have fanboys writing inaccurate pieces about the CT because they drive one and are now experts on using a truck like a truck.

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Tesla doesn't often make mistakes, but it made a mistake in this case. Its Cybertruck range extender currently goes on top of the truck bed against the main cabin of the truck. Instead, it should have gone in the compartment underneath the truck bed.

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From this article, let's all put a 1500 pound battery pack behind the rear wheels and then put on another 1500 pounds of trailer tongue weight (because the driver won't have a clue what payload capacity means to trailer max weight) to the rear of the truck. Let's get that front end of the CT good and light so we can get our first CTs into the junk yard.

Just because someone is an influencer (they usually influence me to call them a dumba**) and has a lot of disposable cash lying around doesn't make them an expert on anything. This is where Tesla needs a marketing team to correct these jokers but Tesla's decision on that speaks for itself. Hopefully, someone responds to that article and corrects that fool before people start incorrectly loading literally almost a ton of weight in that rear bay.

Just, duh.