nlambert182
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Easy enough... if I'm wrong I'm wrong. Post a pic of your payload sticker.I don't see it on website anymore. I did ask my friend, he said dealer added it, not factory. SO I was wrong on that part.
On the Rebel part... You are not correct. 4th Rebel's had low payload. 5th Rebel does not, It has one of the highest towing/payloads for 4x4 1500. Look it up.
Also everything is marketing... Just as 2500's are. difference in price between 2500-3500 base is $1000. Maybe $4000 difference with same options.
Newer Trailers designed for 1500's is called Engineering, design, light materials, adjusting weight, less options.
Just cause all of you with 2500 don't 'believe' it. Doesn't make fact. The numbers are legal. Just cause you don't feel safe or whatever, doesn't change anything.
Aside from the Scamp and the Escape, fifth wheels are not DESIGNED for a 1/2 ton. They are designed to be as lightweight as possible and then MARKETED as 1/2 ton towable. If you can do basic math and HONEST math, you'll quickly figure out that the ones marketing these trailers are using dry weights and max payloads of 1/2 ton trucks. Neither are accurate numbers. Once you factor in the GVWR of most 5th wheels (minus the 2 unicorns I mentioned) and the true payload of a 1/2 ton, they instantly mismatch.
Want an example?
Keystone Cougar 22MLS "1/2 ton towable"
Dry Weight: 5,887 lbs
Cargo capacity: 1,337 lbs
Advertised hitch weight: 645 lbs (10% of 5,887 is 645)
Length: 26'10"
Cougar Half-Ton premium-fifth-wheels - Specifications for Floorplans
Interested in a Cougar Half-Ton premium-fifth-wheels RV? Compare the specifications and amenities for the floorplans for each model to help decide which meets your needs.
www.keystonerv.com
ACTUAL GVWR: 7,224 lbs (Dry weight + Cargo capacity)
Actual hitch weight: 1,444.8 lbs (20% x GVWR)
Now... realistically find a Ram that's not a regular cab 2wd Tradesman with a 3.6L that, after you add in passengers and cargo, has enough payload remaining to tow this trailer.
The highest available payload is on a Regular cab Tradesman, long bed, 2wd with a 3.6L at 1,910 lbs. But max trailer weight is 4,720. Most folks have at least a double cab if not a crew cab. You're already over payload on those. The second you step up from a Tradesman, all bets are off.
The V8 with the closest payload (which you would need) is the same truck with the Hemi. Payload is 1,680 lbs on paper. Add in a fifth wheel hitch at ~200 lbs and you're at capacity already. The second you add in another person you're already overweight.