2017 Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi Headlights

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I noticed this morning that the bulb is burned out on the passenger side, and the headlight on the driver side has a bunch of condensation in it. Whatever lights they are, theyre not too bright and Im wanting to replace the whole assemblies with some that are insanely bright and that will light up the road even on the sides a bit as we have a lot of suicidal deer around here. I started looking for some online and realized I dont have a clue what to get. I think projector is probably better, and Im pretty sure I want LED. So I was looking at these:


But then it says this:
Guaranteed Fit
2017 Ram 1500
Fitment notes:
with Factory LED Projector Headlights, Factory LED Daytime Running Lights (DRL), Factory Halogen Headlights
Will not fit Models with Factory Quad or Dual Headlights.

I dont know if I have what theyre calling Factory Quad or Dual Headlights, so I included pics of what is on the truck at this time.
 

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I noticed this morning that the bulb is burned out on the passenger side, and the headlight on the driver side has a bunch of condensation in it. Whatever lights they are, theyre not too bright and Im wanting to replace the whole assemblies with some that are insanely bright and that will light up the road even on the sides a bit as we have a lot of suicidal deer around here. I started looking for some online and realized I dont have a clue what to get. I think projector is probably better, and Im pretty sure I want LED. So I was looking at these:


But then it says this:
Guaranteed Fit
2017 Ram 1500
Fitment notes:
with Factory LED Projector Headlights, Factory LED Daytime Running Lights (DRL), Factory Halogen Headlights
Will not fit Models with Factory Quad or Dual Headlights.

I dont know if I have what theyre calling Factory Quad or Dual Headlights, so I included pics of what is on the truck at this time.
You have the Quad headlights. Projectors look like this.
 

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You have the quad headlights. Mine is a 2014 with the same. They were in excellent shape except for film on the inside. I cleaned them with distilled water/alcohol and a touch of dawn. Looked as new when done. I then put in an LED conversion and wowser it was like going from 1 candlepower to 1000 candlepower. Do be aware the LED conversion can cause some Alpha ODB issues. I bought the cable and Alpha program to change mine to LED. Some newer led conversions say not necessary :rolleyes: but I did mine. Possibly a few others will pi:cheers:pe in
 

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You have the quad headlights. Mine is a 2014 with the same. They were in excellent shape except for film on the inside. I cleaned them with distilled water/alcohol and a touch of dawn. Looked as new when done. I then put in an LED conversion and wowser it was like going from 1 candlepower to 1000 candlepower. Do be aware the LED conversion can cause some Alpha ODB issues. I bought the cable and Alpha program to change mine to LED. Some newer led conversions say not necessary :rolleyes: but I did mine. Possibly a few others will pi:cheers:pe in
Doesn't cause AlfaOBD issues. Issues are with the BCM and TIPM. AlfaOBD, with a good bidirectional OBDII dongle, is what is used to to properly configure the BCM to act accordingly. The LEDs can act kind of wierd in some instances. I believe the '14 / '15 years were the most sensitive to changes. My '16 w/ projectors was a snap to convert to LED's.
 

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Headlights are one of those things that can polarize people. Going from a truck with quad housings to a set of projectors took a lot of getting used to, especially since I've never had a vehicle that had any kind of projector housing. Reflector housings tend to light up a lot of road in front of you, and they seem really bright. Cheap projectors tend to either have a really bright spot and no width, or all width and no hot spot for distance. A lot of guys are going to chime in and swear by alpharex housings. I've had numerous sets of them, and they were all... Mediocre at best. Plus, have always had some kind of issue with them throwing an error code, no matter how much time I tweaked setting in alfaobd to eliminate them. The absolute best performance in a lighting system, is going to come from a proper retrofit. The hardest part of a retrofit is opening the housing up, and getting the projectors aligned. Otherwise, they're pretty straightforward, and adapters are available to make things essentially plug and play for any vehicle. A set of housings like you posted aren't going to be the greatest, but if you swapped in a g5brt or nhk m1 led projector, you'd have an incredibly bright setup that will put all the light where you want it, and not blind other drivers if aimed correctly.
Like I said, the go to housing for most guys are alpharex, but I never actually cared for their output z even with hid or LED bulbs. The best housings for the money are either going to be from Form lighting, or morimoto. They're not cheap, but their beam patters blow anything from alpharex out of the water, and nearly 2 years later, I'm still running the same set of housings from Form. Previous to them, I'd been through 2 retrofits (wasn't happy with how I set up the projectors, but amazing output), and probably 6 or 7 different sets of housings, and a handful of led/hid bulb systems in less than 2 years. I've probably spent twice what a set of forms cost or more, and was never happy with the output. These form housings have been amazing, and have never given me any issues. I also live in an area with a huge deer population and drive mostly at night, so quality lights are a must. I've posted about these lights before, and I'll find the link and post it here.
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Doesn't cause AlfaOBD issues. Issues are with the BCM and TIPM. AlfaOBD, with a good bidirectional OBDII dongle, is what is used to to properly configure the BCM to act accordingly. The LEDs can act kind of wierd in some instances. I believe the '14 / '15 years were the most sensitive to changes. My '16 w/ projectors was a snap to convert to LED's.
Sorry for the bad info, I was under the impression the only way to reset the headlight type headlight was via the Alpha ODB program from LINKY and the USB cable LINKY 2
Not sure what the amazon associate message below means ????
 
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Can anyone provide a link to a good headlight that will not cause problems with all that stuff that has been mentioned above? Had no idea it could be this complicated, wow
 

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Can anyone provide a link to a good headlight that will not cause problems with all that stuff that has been mentioned above? Had no idea it could be this complicated, wow
Form Headlights:
Morimoto Headlights:
Factory Projector Retrofit:
 
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Pretty pricey to say the least. With my budget, I cant justify spending that much on headlights.
 

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Pretty pricey to say the least. With my budget, I cant justify spending that much on headlights.
Yes they are very pricey.

For replacement on a budget, I'd start on www.car-part.com and search for OEM used headlights in your area. None of the aftermarket (especially budget aftermarket) lights will work as well, last as long, and put out as much light as the oems.

Another option would be eBay
 

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"They're not too bright". Welcome to the club. LOL, biggest headlight complaint ever for quads. You can get some projectors and get a conversion harness for around 80ish bucks, Morimoto are reliable. If the budget is tight, I'd recommend Marketplace or Craigslist if that is still even a thing in your area. All these aftermarket are a gamble, especially if they are priced low, may still require some additional modification$$. But, maybe someone can give you some advice on a good pair that are bright. Craigslist is dead in my area now. Marketplace isn't that great. I used to buy things like stock headlights and taillights years back for $50 all day, now everyone on Marketplace wants $150-200. Could be demographics. I recently bought some aftermarket projectors that look nice for around $130 for my 2012 to replace quads. Did have to buy the conversion harness and upgrade to HIDs as they lacked the brightness as I anticipated for that price. So, about $350 out the door. But they are bright! Good luck, hope this helps a little.
 

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For budget, a set of OEM quads housings with a set of h9 bulbs in the low beams will be an improvement. I ran these bulbs from hella and they were noticeably brighter, never felt lacking in terms of light output. It's easy to modify the bulb or the plug to fit the h11 side of the housing. Only downside is lifespan is drastically less.
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Pretty pricey to say the least. With my budget, I cant justify spending that much on headlights.
Here is a reasonably priced option that is supposed to work with your 2017 Quad headlight Ram. I have no experience with this manufacturer but they have been mentioned on this forum several times over the last few years.
Also, if your housings can be cleaned up and are in good shape you can pop in a pair of Fahren LED bulbs for about $60 as many of us have done. Huge improvement over stock halogens in the Quad housings and no error codes.
 

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Week one of owning my Ram1500, I was in the Adirondacks night driving through a torrential downpour/thunderstorm. Stock halogens were SO bad I knew I'd be searching for an upgrade. After much research I chose the HID direction. Currently running a high intensity discharge setup and feel it's the best way to go. My equipment is a few years old and does require additional hardware but it's far from a big deal. Boosted Motorsports has many videos on the subject:

 

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I noticed this morning that the bulb is burned out on the passenger side, and the headlight on the driver side has a bunch of condensation in it. Whatever lights they are, theyre not too bright and Im wanting to replace the whole assemblies with some that are insanely bright and that will light up the road even on the sides a bit as we have a lot of suicidal deer around here. I started looking for some online and realized I dont have a clue what to get. I think projector is probably better, and Im pretty sure I want LED. So I was looking at these:


But then it says this:
Guaranteed Fit
2017 Ram 1500
Fitment notes:
with Factory LED Projector Headlights, Factory LED Daytime Running Lights (DRL), Factory Halogen Headlights
Will not fit Models with Factory Quad or Dual Headlights.

I dont know if I have what theyre calling Factory Quad or Dual Headlights, so I included pics of what is on the truck at this time.

Certain aspects of upgrading to LED bulbs are often misrepresented, such as to say Quads of Duals don't function well with LED or that all LEDs have dead spots.

I would say that both these details may have been accurate in some instances years ago, but the LED technology has been advancing rapidly in recent times.

Sure, Projector housings might provide better light dispersion, but installing the correct LED bulbs in whatever housing you have should prove to be a spectacular improvement.

And, I have worked with several members who have been very pleased after LED upgrades in both Quad & Dual housings.

While HID lighting is tough to beat, you have to pay for that with additional costs, a shorter lifespan and more complications of additional wiring and a ballast module to mount.

There are many threads created by members who have corrected and solved the condensation issue. I wouldn't ditch your Quads without making an effort to fix that problem first.

When I first started buying Fahren LED bulbs, the typical light output was rated at 8K lumens. I could see the difference when I upgraded by 2K lumens.

I currently use 10K lumen Fahren bulbs in the low beams and 15K lumen Auxito bulbs in the high beams in the OE Projector housings. They are insanely bright.

Fahren bulbs are now available in 20K lumens and more. My only warning about buying any LED bulbs is that they're not a standard size; be careful to choose a bulb that has been reviewed here or elsewhere by someone who has installed them successfully in the same type of Ram housings.

Fahren manufactures a couple of specific bulbs that are a lower profile for installation in OE housings with less clearance. Many members have been surprised to find that the OE back covers would no longer fit after installing the wrong bulbs. Then they buy new and deeper back covers. Mine are still the OE covers. :cool:

I would explore correcting the condensation problem and then try out a set of these Fahren bulbs.
At $32, that's not a huge gamble. They used to be warrantied for 3 years if you registered.

Be aware, you may find a better deal on a 4-pack to change both high & low beams.
You will want both to be LED.

If you don't want to deal with the condensation problem, how about looking for Projector housings at a wrecker?



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On finding the leak, I would try very low air pressure 1-4 lbs, the lower the better as you are dealing with plastic. Once pressurized if you can't feel the leak, Try spraying soapy water all around the lens and housing. You can also submerse it in water if you have a big enough container.
Once located thoroughly dry it and use a vacuum cleaner to create a suction inside and apply your sealant of choice to the leak.
The suction will draw the sealant in if it is not to viscous, preferably a flexible sealant for plastics. Once sealed do the DI water, dish soap, Alcohol clean (see YOUTUBE). Let them dry thoroughly as there are a lot of nooks and cranny's. Or buy new ones. After cleaning My quads are awesome with LED's.:cheers:
BTW The DI water is critical to eliminate water spots
 
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Also wanted to say I was able to remove the headllight assemblis without removing the grille. Seeveral videos on You Tube. The most difficult part was figuring out how to release the white locking tab/latch as it's not clearly stated in the video. FYI the latch pushes UP to release.
Figuring this out took about 3/4 of the total time required :banghead::banghead::mad::favorites68::favorites68::favorites68:

Lastly it is critical to orient the LED's correctly in the housing. I can't remember the details on that but it is elsewhere on this forum
 

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Also wanted to say I was able to remove the headllight assemblis without removing the grille. Seeveral videos on You Tube. The most difficult part was figuring out how to release the white locking tab/latch as it's not clearly stated in the video. FYI the latch pushes UP to release.
Figuring this out took about 3/4 of the total time required :banghead::banghead::mad::favorites68::favorites68::favorites68:

Lastly it is critical to orient the LED's correctly in the housing. I can't remember the details on that but it is elsewhere on this forum

I've tried with and without removing the grill. For me, and on my truck, the time saved on the removal was lost chasing hardware, fooling around with extensions, and trying to extract the Projector housing was more difficult. A net loss in time, for me.

The LED bulb orientation of 9 & 3 is more or less critical, depending on whom you speak with and the individual bulbs. And, likely more important for low beams.

While I've always been careful to align the Fahren bulbs at 9 & 3, the older Auxito bulbs I have installed in the high beams are fixed and not adjustable.

I have tweaked the Fahren bulbs a bit away and back to 9 & 3 and found not much difference with my Projector housings. There is a significant focal lens on the low beams of the Projectors which may result in the bulb orientation being somewhat a moot point.

The Auxito bulbs in my high beams, IIRC, are closer to 2 & 8, are wickedly bright, and I have no problems with their ability to light the rural roads far ahead and ditches to the treelines.

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Headlights are expensive. Really overpriced for what they are IMO but you get what you pay for.

All the cheap ones are garbage.

I had quads on mine and they have pretty poor light output. After driving our 2022 Cherokee with factory LED lights I wanted more for my truck.

I looked around for ages and ended up spending the money on Alpharex LED headlights. I have had them a couple of years now and I have no complaints so far.

Way more light output and they look great.
 
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