2022 Ram 2500 68RFE possible problem.

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Hey everyone. I have a 2500 Ram with the 68RFE transmission.

When the truck downshifts from 5th to 4th gear under a load, it will shift into 4th hard.

I dont remember this happening in the past. I only have 20k miles on it. I am the only owner. I checked the transmission fluid and it smells fine and is at the correct level.

Does anyone have an idea on what this could be? Is it normal? Thank you.
 

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Hey everyone. I have a 2500 Ram with the 68RFE transmission.

When the truck downshifts from 5th to 4th gear under a load, it will shift into 4th hard.

I dont remember this happening in the past. I only have 20k miles on it. I am the only owner. I checked the transmission fluid and it smells fine and is at the correct level.

Does anyone have an idea on what this could be? Is it normal? Thank you.
Are you using Tow/Haul when it does this? In my 22 when its in tow mode and using EB I can get some harder down shifts that I don't get when I'm not in Tow mode more so if going down a hill, also it was strongly suggested to service the trans no later then 30K along with a trans quick relearn, also if you have 4x4 service the transfer case at the same time no later then 30K, when I drove my truck after it was serviced the trans shifted a lot better then it did new off the dealers lot...
 
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It mostly happens when driving up a hill. It will do it whether I have tow/haul mode on or off.

It seems to only happen when it needs to downshift to accelerate. It will rev then catch the 4th gear coming from 5th.
 

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It mostly happens when driving up a hill. It will do it whether I have tow/haul mode on or off.

It seems to only happen when it needs to downshift to accelerate. It will rev then catch the 4th gear coming from 5th.
I suggest you take it in to be looked at, also are sure trans fluid is at the full mark on the dip stick?
 

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since it is going into 4th from OD is the issue, it is likely an overdrive cross leak. Your 5 and 6th gears are over drive, so the issue is happening going from overdrive into standard drive. It is likely you can fix this in valve body, but best to get on it and save your clutch pack. You will likely need relearn or quick learn with new VB. This is a known issue, the real next level fix is plate VB plus tune pressure up.

 
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I suggest you take it in to be looked at, also are sure trans fluid is at the full mark on the dip stick?
Yes i will probably take it in since it's still under warranty. The level is good, and the fluid doesn't smell burnt. The fluid still looks good too. Thank you
 
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since it is going into 4th from OD is the issue, it is likely an overdrive cross leak. Your 5 and 6th gears are over drive, so the issue is happening going from overdrive into standard drive. It is likely you can fix this in valve body, but best to get on it and save your clutch pack. You will likely need relearn or quick learn with new VB. This is a known issue, the real next level fix is plate VB plus tune pressure up.

Awesome. Thank you for the info. I will look into this.
 

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At 12k miles my trans was replaced with a factory reman under warranty for similar hard down shift issues. My hard shifts were in and out of 2nd gear. They replaced the trans due to the amount of debris found in the pan. Chunks of clutch material and some metal. Didnt show any signs of burnt fluid according to them. A year later, and less than 2k miles. I was back in the shop with the same basic issues again. The techs tore the reman trans apart and found some snap ring that holds some planetary gear cluster had broke. So its a great truck, just needs a trans replacement every year! Man I should have never traded in my 3500 with the aisin trans.
 
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At 12k miles my trans was replaced with a factory reman under warranty for similar hard down shift issues. My hard shifts were in and out of 2nd gear. They replaced the trans due to the amount of debris found in the pan. Chunks of clutch material and some metal. Didnt show any signs of burnt fluid according to them. A year later, and less than 2k miles. I was back in the shop with the same basic issues again. The techs tore the reman trans apart and found some snap ring that holds some planetary gear cluster had broke. So its a great truck, just needs a trans replacement every year! Man I should have never traded in my 3500 with the aisin trans.
Wow. That's awful. I wish I had splurged for the 3500, but I am here now.
 

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In my case the truck was down both times for 4-5 weeks for FCA to evaluate whether to replace the trans completely , or repair with parts. And from what I heard this was fast compared to others down times. So if you take it in, be prepared for it to take some time. FCA will make the techs tear it part first to document what parts need replaced, if the cost of the parts exceeds the cost of the reman thats what you will get.
 

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So second gear is a much larger issue and is almost certain a replace situation, where as over drive is generally a known issue and if repaired most of the time can be fixed w/o replacement. I'll let chat explain why, but generally you fix the line pressure you fix the issues, but not with second gear which is "standard drive".. Now it is possible too the clutch is toast, but not likely if repaired soonish.


In Chrysler/Ram RFE transmissions (68RFE and 545RFE), "hard shifts out of overdrive" usually indicate an issue with the Overdrive/4C clutch packs or the valve body. Standard (lower) gears use different clutch combinations and don't rely on the overdrive circuits, which are under higher stress. [1, 2, 3]
For an in-depth visual breakdown of how RFE clutch packs function, and why overdrive circuits are so prone to failure:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gu17UAzIrg&t=2

How Standard Gear Shifts Work
Lower gears (1st through 3rd) rely on the Underdrive and Reverse or 2nd/4th clutch combinations. These gear sets handle high torque from a stop but are generally considered more mechanically robust. Shifts between standard gears usually feel smooth unless there is internal wear in the valve body or solenoid pack. [1, 2, 3]

Why Overdrive Shifts are Different
When the transmission shifts into overdrive (4th, 5th, and 6th gears), the Overdrive and Underdrive (or Overdrive and 4th) clutch packs are engaged. [1]
  • High Stress Points: The Overdrive clutch is notoriously the weakest link in these transmissions. It handles high rotational speeds and the stress of locking up the torque converter. [1]
  • Hard Shifting Symptoms: When a 68RFE experiences hard shifts out of overdrive, it usually means the transmission's computer is compensating for a slipping clutch or irregular fluid pressure. [1, 2, 3]
  • Damaged Clutches: Hard shifts in higher gears are frequently caused by burned or delaminated overdrive clutches, which leave excess debris and cause erratic pressure
 

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