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The point is most things are having parts come from China. Down to the smallest seal.Domestic vehicles are sourced from many countries tho, and are subject to their issues there.No, did you check? They are not. In the USA and maybe Germany.
ok, NOT what im saying. Google search says They are built in Indiana and Germany. Not China.The window sticker on some may even say Germany.For anything to be legally required to be called made in USA it has to have 75% of its parts made here. 25% of the parts can still be sourced from overseas
Understand what you're saying. Germany of course cant have issues....and we know also that all parts that Germany would use would be made in Germany...ok, NOT what im saying. Google search says They are built in Indiana and Germany. Not China.
I know what im saying. Im disputing China.Understand what you're saying. Germany of course cant have issues....
I see that...the point I guess I'm making, is that just because a tranny is listed as made in china, or made in germany or anywhere else, doesnt mean that it will not contain some parts from many other countries. And be affected by supply issues. Virtually nothing is made from parts made only in one country. I was involved with brake systems at TRW automotive, the castings were made in Tennessee, the parts were sourced from China, the completed part was considered Made in USA. It was "mostly" Made in USA. Lol. I am aware of China issues and they may not be involved in any of the trannies made in Mexico. But in many many cases, a factory no matter where their thing is actually made, it uses parts from many other places. Maybe even China.I know what im saying. Im disputing China.
I know that, i used to work at a Toyota dealer. They state what % of their parts are in the vehicle on the sticker. They only have 2 that are 100% made in Japan. The 4Runner and Prius. Camry and Tacoma are mostly USA parts @ least 75%. Engine and tranny is from Japan.I see that...the point I guess I'm making, is that just because a tranny is listed as made in china, or made in germany or anywhere else, doesnt mean that it will not contain some parts from many other countries. And be affected by supply issues. Virtually nothing is made from parts made only in one country. I was involved with brake systems at TRW automotive, the castings were made in Tennessee, the parts were sourced from China, the completed part was considered Made in USA. It was "mostly" Made in USA. Lol. I am aware of China issues and they may not be involved in any of the trannies made in Mexico. But in many many cases, a factory no matter where their thing is actually made, it uses parts from many other places. Maybe even China.
I remember having a Chevy truck once, engine made in Mexico, tranny the U. S. Tranny mounts made in Israel or Korea. Clutch from France.
We certainly dont drive "domestic made" vehicles do we? Lol...
True, they are not ASSEMBLED in China. All it takes is one part that no longer comes from China (or anywhere else yet), and that transmission can't be assembled. Anywhere.Ram transmissions are not built in China
How do you know that NO parts are made in China? Odds are, based on where I worked for 35 years, that some upstream part is made there. It would be a very rare item that doesn't have something that came from there. A chip, a plastic connector, a screw. Odds are something does.No, did you check? They are not. In the USA and Germany.
China, Japan and others really protect their markets from foreign competition. Not much of a free and open market in some countriesTrue, they are not ASSEMBLED in China. All it takes is one part that no longer comes from China (or anywhere else yet), and that transmission can't be assembled. Anywhere.
Absolutely true. The vast majority of consumers have an extremely limited knowledge of what they are actually buying,sad, really. The manufacturers sell their souls on the altar of saving a tenth of a cent.And there are many sacrifices made related to this, as it affects quality, safety etc. And they miss the mark many times.I hate to interject again, but I got to for my own sanity.
I worked 35 years for the Navy and at another government agency (US Department of Commerce) that did "value add" analysis of whole industries. The data was used to estimate the trade deficit and GNP, among other things.
Anyway, about 15 years ago we got sucked into resolving a political fight over fasteners in the automotive, aerospace and marine industries that supported the military. The bolts used in high torque and/or horsepower engines were breaking. We were hired to find out what was going on. We suspected certification fraud somewhere in the supply chain, so we had to trace the chain back to who made the part. You'd think this would be a simple question.... just ask the manufacturer who supplied the fastener, but we found they didn't really know. We found that company engineers spec'd out their requirements, sometimes working directly with suppliers on a complex item, but usually a team of buyers would find parts on the open market, and often bid it out. These assembly suppliers then often do the same, buying sub components as well as screws and nuts and bolts from yet another distributor or yet another company. And so on.
It was nuts. Our engineers and auditors found that the actual company that was making the critical parts that were failing could be 2 to 15 steps removed from the final product. It turned out that a whole host of components that were supposedly US made were merely assembled in the USA, but were composed of from parts from everywhere.
There is still a group in Commerce that enforces the rules about what can be labeled Made in America vs merely Assembled in America (of foreign and domestic parts). It is much easier to meet the Assembled standard.
And companies still try to outsmart the fastener certification process... resulting in so many recalls even today.
I've heard the 2019s were more problematicMy 2019 big horn trans went bad at 40,000. Dealer had me a loaner that day and I had truck back in two weeks new transmission. I now have 57000 on truck
Disclaimer... I am not defending anyone. This is just my opinion.
It's definitely an unfortunate situation you're dealing. Unfortunately I think it's like that pretty much everywhere because of the current situation in this country and world. Staff and supplies are a very hot commodity but are also very limited so maybe they can't tie things up for long periods of time. They just may not have a loaner available to tie up that long. Unfortunately we have to deal with the ramifications of what's happening. Good luck and I hope you get everything straightened out