Air bags are my solution

[Shiva]

Recently installed Airlift 1000HD bags.
Just finished my first long trip towing the TT with several disconnects and reconnects along the way. What a difference from towing without them. For years I have always kept my hitch ball mount and WDH bars and anti-sways connected to the trailer. I back the truck to the mount, set the height then back the rest of the way in to set the pin.

For this trip I started out at 40 psi. Truck sagged minimally as compared to huge drop without bags(2018 1500 Outdoorsman CC 4wd). The ride with load felt like not towing anything at all. And I was also carrying 122kg of spare fuel, a 40kg generator and 1/2 face cord of firewood in the box.

After the first leg of the trip I drove to the store unhitched with the bags still inflated to 40psi and it had the ride of a probably a 3500. Stiff suspension. I've driven many fleet trucks for more years than I care to mention and can tell what I'm riding in.

Second leg went down to 35psi and found the ride to be too squishy and getting into the amount of sag I wasn't comfortable with. Ended up going back to 40 for the third and 4th legs.
For $132 us shipped in Canada I see no reason to buy any other bags with more or less capacity or cost when towing a heavier trailer and load in the truck.

 

[MADDOG]

Glad it worked out well for you. Rear bags like that definitely make a difference.

 

[Riccochet]

Agree. I had 1000's in my 2013 and immediately put them and a helwig rear sway bar on my 2017. A world of difference when towing. Won't own a 1500 with them now.

 

[VernDiesel]

Bags are a great compliment to a WDH. Cheap in coil bags are good and for many suffice well but quality axle to frame bag set ups are better for a host of reasons. Better quality fittings, lines & bags that don’t leak with age nearly as quick. The larger volume heavy rubber & convoluted bags don’t require the high pressure to carry the load hence provide better dampening & suspension control on rough roads no high psi bouncy. 15 to 20 psi carry the same load as 40 psi in coils only again better dampening & control. In coil bags must be filled prior to loading according to Mfgr or the thinner plasticky rubber can balloon out between the coils instead of lift or support where as the axle frame setups can be aired up before & after.

 

[Shiva]

Agree. I had 1000's in my 2013 and immediately put them and a helwig rear sway bar on my 2017. A world of difference when towing. Won't own a 1500 with them now.

Pardon my lack of info about the Helwig.
My rear doesn't sway at all with 2 trailer antisways at $30 each.

 

[Shiva]

Bags are a great compliment to a WDH. Cheap in coil bags are good and for many suffice well but quality axle to frame bag set ups are better for a host of reasons. Better quality fittings, lines & bags that don’t leak with age nearly as quick. The larger volume heavy rubber & convoluted bags don’t require the high pressure to carry the load hence provide better dampening & suspension control on rough roads no high psi bouncy. 15 to 20 psi carry the same load as 40 psi in coils only again better dampening & control. In coil bags must be filled prior to loading according to Mfgr or the thinner plasticky rubber can balloon out between the coils instead of lift or support where as the axle frame setups can be aired up before & after.

That may be true to the lower level of material quality of some cheaper in-coil bags. As I said most people have no need to go lower or higher material & price than the 1000hds. They work well and if not being inflated/deflated multiple times on a daily basis for towing a bunch of different trailers each day.
Takes about 15 seconds to release the pressure on the fill valve to deflate using any key in your pocket. Takes all of 15 seconds to inflate each bag if using separate fill lines.
Go nuts throw your money where you want or into a corn field but I think these things solve most people's problems at an affordable price.
As for quality of fittings... bags with an air valve, hose with clamps, fill valves.
No plates to attach or corrode.
Like I said before if you want or need bigger spend that money. I and most people won't need to.
Now as far as the difference between 15 to 20 pound pressure in larger outside of coil mount bag as compared to 30 to 50 pound in coil bags.
Basic physics: force = area x psi
Larger diameter bag is lower pressure
Smaller diameter bag is higher pressure
Both having the same result.
Both bags are manufactured to do their job.

In the end buy only what you need to accomplish the task. Or say I got the biggest heaviest stick in the forest.

 

[VernDiesel]

I don’t think anyone is arguing with you. For most people the $100 in coils suffice. Some of us will spend more to get a better product. Just saying in this case that you get something tangible for the $350 it costs for Timber Groves or others. So no argument or negating your point just sharing for the readers.

What are these $30 antisways?

 

[Riccochet]

Pardon my lack of info about the Helwig.
My rear doesn't sway at all with 2 trailer antisways at $30 each.

The OEM sway bar is a paper thin hollow tube you can bend with your hands. Before installing it, even while not towing, I could feel the rear end kick out when going over bumps and catching ruts in the road. Now, it's very planted, no kick out, no drifting in ruts. It's absolutely not needed, but after installing one I won't one a 1500 without it. And it was only $200.

 

[Shiva]

What are these $30 antisways?

Trailer tongue to hitch adjustable friction anti-sways

 

[VernDiesel]

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[VernDiesel]

Oh I remember those. The early WDHs later came up with those as an add on anti-sway device prior to the built in designs that they have now. I know like Harbor Freight and others still have them often described as a frinction sway bar. Cool thanks for the pics.