All Season tire suggetions with an emphasis on snow. Too expensive to switch back and forth from snow and all seasons.

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Hey forum,

I live in Central NY where we can get a lot of snow. I also live at the end of a 1/2 dirt road that is not maintained by the state and sometimes I work 24 hour shifts.

With all the above in mind, I'm looking for a tire that can handle snow and ice rather well. I use to keep snow tires and all seasons but it's getting expensive to keep switching. Switch in fall to snow and switch again in spring back to all season. Plus, I'd appreciate having the extra room in my basement back from not having to store the extra set of tires.

So what tires are good all seasons with an emphasis on winter driving?
 

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Plenty of tire choices in this category, and you can't go wrong with most of of them. Just be sure that the tire you decide on has the TPMSF symbol in the pic below.

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Nothing comes close to good snow tires, my RAM 1500 has Nokian Hakkapeliitta studded LT3's for the winter mounted on used rims.
 

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I dunno about the tire, but it sounds like you need a snow plow, for around a grand they have great dyi snow plows. Also acts as a ranch hand bumper on deer it the road.
 

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Short of buying a second set of rims ($200 for a set of stocker steelies) you are not spending any more money on having 2 set of tires
In fact, you may find you save money because a winter tire doesn't wear as fast in the winter and a summer tire won't wear as fast in the summer as an "all season" will
 

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I bought a set of factory take off wheels for my snows so all I need to do is a wheel swap, but I have plenty of storage space and I drive enough miles that it's just me buying tires half as often on 2 different sets and I can run a harder compound tire that goes more miles in the spring-fall especially as I run a lot of gravel/dirt roads that wear out anything with a snowflake rating pretty quick.. That said I've found the best all terrains in the snow are the bfg all terrains. I've run the toyo, falken, bfg all in at multiple sets and nitto ridge grapplers on my truck at the moment.
 

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I've had two sets of wheels for most of my vehicles since the '80s, I'm about 45 minutes North of Ogdensburg, NY.

Having 2 sets is more $ up front but they last longer than running the same tires all year.

Plus I get the benefits of awesome snow tires and summer tires that stick to wet roads like glue.

Although the BFGs are awesome in deep snow, they suck big time on wet summer pavement.

I know people up here who choose to use BFG All Terrain as all season tires. You will have to be much more disciplined than I, and slow down considerably when the roads are wet during the summer or you will hit someone or something.

They won't last as long as mine that I usually switch to my summer wheels sometime in May, before it gets seriously hot.

I will never skimp on winter tires, I see that as a truly bad idea. I suspect you receive a significant amount of snow on occasion, same as I do.

All season radials are for city dwellers where they get plowed regularly.

After a big dump of snow, sometimes I don't see a plow for 36 hours, I'm not interested in battling to stay on the road or planning my outings to happen after the plow.

Find a buddy who will store your extra wheels for a case of beer. I use OEM steel wheels for my winter tires and alloys for the summers.

I also receive a small discount on my truck insurance for using snow flake rated.


Another tire that some folks use as an all season is Faulken WildPeaks AT4s.

They might be better on wet summer roads than BFGs.

After reading a few reviews of the WildPeaks, the AT3s sound better for wet road performance.

@turkeybird56 might have an opinion on how they function on wet roads. I'll bet he has AT3s. :cool:

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Really? I believe you, but that was never my experience. I never bought anything but BFG's for my trucks and broncos and found them great rain tires. What wasn't great were both sets of good year tires I replaced them with, now those were horrible rain tires. Of course the bfg's were always AT I think one set of Goodyear wasnt but one was also AT, downright dangerous in the rain was the good years, slipping on stops and on take off even feathering it. My go to's bfg and interstate battery.
 

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My Powerwagon is predominantly my winter vehicle.
3rd shifter in rural Iowa I'm on unplowed and drifted roads all the time...
I run Kenda Klever RTs and they've worked well so far...
No they aren't as good as studded snow tires but they still get me the 25 miles to work every night including climbing out of the steep valley I live in...
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Really? I believe you, but that was never my experience. I never bought anything but BFG's for my trucks and broncos and found them great rain tires. What wasn't great were both sets of good year tires I replaced them with, now those were horrible rain tires. Of course the bfg's were always AT I think one set of Goodyear wasnt but one was also AT, downright dangerous in the rain was the good years, slipping on stops and on take off even feathering it. My go to's bfg and interstate battery.

Last spring I was rushing to an appointment and a bit embarrassed to say, I was very relieved the driver at the crossroad was awake and not a traffic light follower.

No more rushing with BFGs on wet roads for me.

What tire pressures are you using? I used much lower tire pressures with the BFGs on my Tundra, this worked better in the rain but the tires never lasted very long.

The Tundra called for 30 psi front and 32 psi rear, IIRC.

I'm using much higher pressures with my Ram, the wear performance is excellent.

The door jamb label specs 39 psi, I'm a bit over that to improve wear and for the load rating.

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Nothing comes close to good snow tires, my RAM 1500 has Nokian Hakkapeliitta studded LT3's for the winter mounted on used rims.
Nokian tires are great winter tires, but I don't know how well they would hold up in summer. The tire compound is softer and meant for snow/ice grip in winter, but might not do well long term on dry pavement.
I run them in winter, but have them on another set of rims, so change them out for summer driving.
 

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I had the same concern. Live up a 2 mile 8%-10% paved grade then up another 1/4 mile of graded. So I bought a set of Pirelli Scorpion WeatherActives. They are TPMSF (ice & snow) rated plus have a treadwear warranty. Love them! Great grip on my snowy winter roads plus they're very quiet and smooth when driving.
 
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Living in snow belt all my life i have yet to purchase a set of snow tires. I always purchase a good all terrain tire with a bit of a aggressive tread pattern and never leaves me stranded. studs in tires are just a waste of money as the first couple of times you drive on bare roads you take the tips of the studs and they are no longer as effective.
 

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I've had two sets of wheels for most of my vehicles since the '80s, I'm about 45 minutes North of Ogdensburg, NY.

Having 2 sets is more $ up front but they last longer than running the same tires all year.

Plus I get the benefits of awesome snow tires and summer tires that stick to wet roads like glue.

Although the BFGs are awesome in deep snow, they suck big time on wet summer pavement.

I know people up here who choose to use BFG All Terrain as all season tires. You will have to be much more disciplined than I, and slow down considerably when the roads are wet during the summer or you will hit someone or something.

They won't last as long as mine that I usually switch to my summer wheels sometime in May, before it gets seriously hot.

I will never skimp on winter tires, I see that as a truly bad idea. I suspect you receive a significant amount of snow on occasion, same as I do.

All season radials are for city dwellers where they get plowed regularly.

After a big dump of snow, sometimes I don't see a plow for 36 hours, I'm not interested in battling to stay on the road or planning my outings to happen after the plow.

Find a buddy who will store your extra wheels for a case of beer. I use OEM steel wheels for my winter tires and alloys for the summers.

I also receive a small discount on my truck insurance for using snow flake rated.


Another tire that some folks use as an all season is Faulken WildPeaks AT4s.

They might be better on wet summer roads than BFGs.

After reading a few reviews of the WildPeaks, the AT3s sound better for wet road performance.

@turkeybird56 might have an opinion on how they function on wet roads. I'll bet he has AT3s. :cool:

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YUP, AT3's. Of course I do not run for snow, but for the water, wet fields n such. Lots of mud on crushed gravel roads too when it does decide to rain. FTR, they do rather well in 9" of snow and ice. BUT as most know, it's not just the tires: But drivability of the person in severe weather conditions, and OMG, friggin common sense too.

ADDED: I ran good ties in the late 70's on My 442 when stationed in the Adirondacks. But, when it got bad, that 2 wheel drive machine was going no where, LOL. It was just real quik on fair weather days, lol.

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Nokian tires are great winter tires, but I don't know how well they would hold up in summer. The tire compound is softer and meant for snow/ice grip in winter, but might not do well long term on dry pavement.
I run them in winter, but have them on another set of rims, so change them out for summer driving.
same
 

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Living in snow belt all my life i have yet to purchase a set of snow tires. I always purchase a good all terrain tire with a bit of a aggressive tread pattern and never leaves me stranded. studs in tires are just a waste of money as the first couple of times you drive on bare roads you take the tips of the studs and they are no longer as effective.
This just shows how little knowledge of tires that you have. Unfortunately too many people seem to have that mentality.
For normal driving after the state, county, and town trucks have plowed and poured the deicers (instant rust) that mentality gets you by much of the time. Get on the secondary roads in the hills and you become one of the ones that I check on, then drive away from.
My current pickup tires have completed 3 winters and have another one left in them

I really get PO'ed at the idiots that head out to a ski area with thousands of dollars in ski's on their vehicle, often awd and 1/2 wore out so called all seasons then they get stuck and block the road on the hills.
 

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Nokian tires are great winter tires, but I don't know how well they would hold up in summer. The tire compound is softer and meant for snow/ice grip in winter, but might not do well long term on dry pavement.
I run them in winter, but have them on another set of rims, so change them out for summer driving.
You're not wrong but no one is saying to run winter tires year round.

The OP is asking about all season tires not winter tires. Those who are suggesting that he go with separate winter and summer tires are missing the point of this thread since that's what he's been doing. He's not wanting to have to deal with changing over tires twice a year.
 
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