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[1500ram12]

So I was sent the morimoto 35w ballast instead of the 50w (sending them back to get the 50w). Also received the Innovited 55w kit. So I tested the Innovited 55w 6000k, the morimoto 35w 5500k and the Innovited 55w ballast with the morimotos bulbs. I'm really shocked on the outcome. I know my lux meter is cheap and not expecting true readings but still. I didn't get a chance to try the morimoto ballast with the Innovited hid's. I am going to check my battery I'm using to test make sure it's still fully charged.

All H1 bulbs in morimoto H1 7.0 projectors



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[chrisbh17]

That's crazy!

Do the 55w get really hot? You and your damn upgrades making me jelly.

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[1500ram12]

That's crazy!

Do the 55w get really hot? You and your damn upgrades making me jelly.

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The ballast don't get any hotter that I'm aware of. It's more the bulbs I guess. But I only had them on for 2-3 minutes to warm up and take a reading. I just don't see how the 35w morimotos could test so low and even with the 55w ballast.


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[chrisbh17]

The ballast don't get any hotter that I'm aware of. It's more the bulbs I guess. But I only had them on for 2-3 minutes to warm up and take a reading. I just don't see how the 35w morimotos could test so low and even with the 55w ballast.


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Ive always read that yes, 55w will be brighter, but wont last as long as 35w. Maybe Morimoto tunes even the 50w down for less output but longer life vs more output with shorter life.

Too bad none of the LED solutions come close, Im not a fan of having more parts to go wrong. Ive never had an OEM set of HIDs go bad on me (the oldest being 12 years and the newest being 4), but I imagine the Innovative sets arent quite up to OEM par.

 

[SitKneelBend]

So I was sent the morimoto 35w ballast instead of the 50w (sending them back to get the 50w). Also received the Innovited 55w kit. So I tested the Innovited 55w 6000k, the morimoto 35w 5500k and the Innovited 55w ballast with the morimotos bulbs. I'm really shocked on the outcome. I know my lux meter is cheap and not expecting true readings but still. I didn't get a chance to try the morimoto ballast with the Innovited hid's. I am going to check my battery I'm using to test make sure it's still fully charged.




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Am I seeing this correctly? Are the 55w Innovited not as bright as the 35w?

One thing to remember is that the final color temperature is determined by the pairing of ballast power and the mixture of elements in the HID bulb itself.

The brightest output will be around 5000k. You can take a 6000k 35w kit and add a 55w balasts and the new output temperature will likely be in the 5000k-5500k range. The same should hold true if I start with a 5000k 55w kit and use a 35w ballast instead. The result will be a temperature that is closer to 6000k.

Maybe this can explain some of the descrepancy you see?

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[chrisbh17]

Am I seeing this correctly? Are the 55w Innovited not as bright as the 35w?

One thing to remember is that the final color temperature is determined by the pairing of ballast power and the mixture of elements in the HID bulb itself.

The brightest output will be around 5000k. You can take a 6000k 35w kit and add a 55w balasts and the new output temperature will likely be in the 5000k-5500k range. The same should hold true if I start with a 5000k 55w kit and use a 35w ballast instead. The result will be a temperature that is closer to 6000k.

Maybe this can explain some of the descrepancy you see?

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The Innovited 55w are the brightest of all, and its not even close.

 

[SitKneelBend]

The Innovited 55w are the brightest of all, and its not even close.

I must be reading it wrong. Can you tell me what you see? Honest question as I have waffled on just getting the 55w kit but I didn't want to deal with more relays if the factory wiring couldn't handle the load and the ballasts not fitting in the G2's and or being too hot for the interior housing.

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[1500ram12]

Am I seeing this correctly? Are the 55w Innovited not as bright as the 35w?

One thing to remember is that the final color temperature is determined by the pairing of ballast power and the mixture of elements in the HID bulb itself.

The brightest output will be around 5000k. You can take a 6000k 35w kit and add a 55w balasts and the new output temperature will likely be in the 5000k-5500k range. The same should hold true if I start with a 5000k 55w kit and use a 35w ballast instead. The result will be a temperature that is closer to 6000k.

Maybe this can explain some of the descrepancy you see?

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You did. I think the Innovited 35w are 5500. I understand that color affects brightness but it shouldn't be that big of a deference between the morimoto 35w and the Innovited 55w or even the Innovited 35w and using the Innovited 55w ballast with the morimoto bulbs shouldn't have that big of a difference. I will say I felt the morimoto set up had more coverage tho


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[1500ram12]

Also I don't know if bulb type/size effects output. The 35w Innovited kit was H7 and what I tested today are H1


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[SitKneelBend]

So just to be clear the 35w kit did show brighter than the 55w kit when comparing Innovited to Innovited?

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[1500ram12]

So just to be clear the 35w kit did show brighter than the 55w kit when comparing Innovited to Innovited?

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Correct. Not by a lot, like 20 lux. I need to make sure that the battery I'm using is still fully charged. I won't be able to test the 35w morimotos again. They are going back tomorrow morning.


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[SitKneelBend]

Correct. Not by a lot, like 20 lux. I need to make sure that the battery I'm using is still fully charged. I won't be able to test the 35w morimotos again. They are going back tomorrow morning.


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Thanks! I'll probably just wait for a failure and up the ballast later then...

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[chrisbh17]

I must be reading it wrong. Can you tell me what you see? Honest question as I have waffled on just getting the 55w kit but I didn't want to deal with more relays if the factory wiring couldn't handle the load and the ballasts not fitting in the G2's and or being too hot for the interior housing.

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What I see:

Morimoto 5500k + innovited 55w - 606.2 lux
Morimoto 35w 5500k - 472.5 lux
55w Innovited HIDs - 1029 lux

Am *I* reading it all wrong?

 

[1500ram12]

What I see:

Morimoto 5500k + innovited 55w - 606.2 lux
Morimoto 35w 5500k - 472.5 lux
55w Innovited HIDs - 1029 lux

Am *I* reading it all wrong?

@SitKneelBend I guess it was closer to 50.




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[chrisbh17]

@SitKneelBend I guess it was closer to 50.


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Ahh, I was not referring back to your original pics (or Im missing a pic in the posts)

Hard to comprehend the difference between 600 and 1000 lumens without actually seeing it. It sounds incredible but still not sure I want to bring along the baggage of HID.

 

[1500ram12]

Ahh, I was not referring back to your original pics (or Im missing a pic in the posts)

Hard to comprehend the difference between 600 and 1000 lumens without actually seeing it. It sounds incredible but still not sure I want to bring along the baggage of HID.

Yeah it was a couple of days ago I posted them.

You can see a difference but I think it's more in the color than actual brightness. It wasn't like comparing halogen to hid's. I'd take pic's but it's hard to really capture the difference.


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[WhiteNBlackRam]

Has anyone installed these without the drl harness and doesn't have factory drls? I dont understand what difference it makes, do they just appear brighter with the harness? Any errors on a 14? I like both versions so whichever makes for an easier install.

 

[crash68]

Has anyone installed these without the drl harness and doesn't have factory drls? I dont understand what difference it makes, do they just appear brighter with the harness?

If you don't install the DRL harness, that part of the headlight just won't light up. O. The V1 it's just the brow light that doesn't illuminate, the G2 have the DRL top and bottom.
The DRL circuits on the headlights ja e nothing to do with how bright the headlights are. I turn mine off through the radio, no change to the actual headlights.
If your truck original came with quads, it's easy enough to add the DRL circuits and cheap if you already have AlfaOBD. Once you check the plug under the fuse box to see if you have pins 8(Left DRL) and 23(Right DRL) wires coming from the BCM, you order the pigtails from M² Mods
I think the extended length pigtails were $25, and then just programming to operate with AlfaOBD. I added the DRL circuits to the V1s in my 15 with no error.

 

[SitKneelBend]

Has anyone installed these without the drl harness and doesn't have factory drls? I dont understand what difference it makes, do they just appear brighter with the harness? Any errors on a 14? I like both versions so whichever makes for an easier install.

I did...

If you don't install the DRL harness, that part of the headlight just won't light up. O. The V1 it's just the brow light that doesn't illuminate, the G2 have the DRL top and bottom.
The DRL circuits on the headlights ja e nothing to do with how bright the headlights are. I turn mine off through the radio, no change to the actual headlights.
If your truck original came with quads, it's easy enough to add the DRL circuits and cheap if you already have AlfaOBD. Once you check the plug under the fuse box to see if you have pins 8(Left DRL) and 23(Right DRL) wires coming from the BCM, you order the pigtails from M² Mods
I think the extended length pigtails were $25, and then just programming to operate with AlfaOBD. I added the DRL circuits to the V1s in my 15 with no error.

That's not quite accurate. I have the G2's and didn't add the DRL harness. Without it, the white lights (top and bottom brows) only turn on with the headlight or when the running lights are on. The bottom brows drops out when the turn signal is active and the top remains on...

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[crash68]

That's not quite accurate. I have the G2's and didn't add the DRL harness. Without it, the white lights (top and bottom brows) only turn on with the headlight or when the running lights are on. The bottom brows drops out when the turn signal is active and the top remains on...

Thank you for this.
If that's the way the G2s operate, I have to wonder what the DRL wire does on them because that's pretty much how the DRLs are expected to work other than top not dropping out.