Blackstone - used oil analysis

[KKBB]

With the price of trucks, it better be at least a 500k-er.

Haha. No doubt. The cost of vehicles, and pretty much everything has gotten insane. I had traded my stuff probably on average every couple years. I am at almost 3 years now on my current truck and plan on keeping it for quite a while because I refuse to pay the prices they think these things are worth.

 

[Oiliver]

Haha. No doubt. The cost of vehicles, and pretty much everything has gotten insane. I had traded my stuff probably on average every couple years. I am at almost 3 years now on my current truck and plan on keeping it for quite a while because I refuse to pay the prices they think these things are worth.

It's become very difficult to afford anything decent anymore, might as well hang on to what we have for a little while longer.

 

[Burla]

It's become very difficult to afford anything decent anymore, might as well hang on to what we have for a little while longer.

yup, lets all make our vehicles outlive us. Plus new stuff isnt as good, double the stupid stuff that if it breaks you are stranded.

 

[Marshalljud]

If you guys go back a page or two and check out my UOA once again do you think it’d be worth a shot to try Lubegard? I just put an order in.

 

[Burla]

Personally, I would go up to 5w30 first maybe even same oil, looks great. 300ppm moly is pretty stout, if you are getting any tick then I would, if not in your case if the oil indeed has 300ppm moly, I'd save the 15 bucks.

 

[danielmid]

Personally, I would go up to 5w30 first maybe even same oil, looks great. 300ppm moly is pretty stout, if you are getting any tick then I would, if not in your case if the oil indeed has 300ppm moly, I'd save the 15 bucks.

To add to this, I would probably follow their advice and run a 5k check next time. I would keep an eye on the TBN to make sure it didn't fall too quickly. Then start stretching out from there to 7 or 8 as long as everything still looks good and then check again.

 

[Marmay]

Today I change the oil and add the lubegard biotech, for the first time,since I have this treatment since February,hoping it gonna help , for the winter months.

 

[HEMIMANN]

I'm not a fan of stretching oil on Hemi engines - not out of concern of oil depletion, but from blowby contaminants slowing oil flow in low flow oil passages - such as from heads to lifter needle bearings, also small orifices like MDS solenoids and VVT cam phasers.

This is not the engine to see how long the OIL itself lasts in. New engine is $9,000 or so, rebuilt is $4,500.

 

[BLUKTY2]

^^+1^^

Couldn't agree more. Oil is cheap. Engine parts, not so much.

 

[HEMIMANN]

Well, Red Line is hardly cheap, esp. for those on tight budgets, especially those that put miles on their truck more than others. But one should not be stretching oil drains on a problematic engine, is the point.

There are alternatives to Red Line, discussed throughout this thread.

 

[RodRamCar]

I went with Redline 5w30 prior to trying Mobil 1 with Lubeguard Biotech. I'm going back to RL 5w30. There's no doubt it at least helps keep my truck quieter. I'm just gonna keep it simple and pay the extra money and put the best oil there is in it.

 

[Burla]

I don't have issue with 10k intervals with the spunglass filtration as long as you back it up with tbn. Especially if the oil you are using keeps ticks away but lesser oils make it tick. I'd much rather have a non ticking hemi then brand new fresh shelf oil that leaves the truck ticking. The polls prove it, yes their are options, but in many cases those options wont keep the truck from banging. When you are the one with the tick and it is erased after an oil change, you can listen to everyones theory til you are blue in the face, you still will do what keeps the truck quiet. There is no proven tick killer then redline 5w30 period, many of us are grateful this oil is out there.

Does oil cleanliness have anything to do with hemi tick? Maybe in some, but I doubt it in the larger pool. My hemi tick started 3500 miles new, I kinda doubt oil cleanliness had anything to do with it.

 

[JHoward]

I've just now got around to sending my HEMI's last oci sample(two weeks ago)to Blackstone Lab. (Red Line 5w/30-Royal Purple 20-820 combo @3000 miles).

I may not get the results back anytime soon because of being close to the holidays ...

I don't know why I ask for a TBN because I'm changing the oil/filter @ every 3000 miles. I'm still stuck in the old fashioned oci ways and days.

I'll post the results once I receive it.

 

[Burla]

I've just now got around to sending my HEMI's last oci sample(two weeks ago)to Blackstone Lab. (Red Line 5w/30-Royal Purple 20-820 combo @3000 miles).

I may not get the results back anytime soon because of being close to the holidays ...

I don't know why I ask for a TBN because I'm changing the oil/filter @ every 3000 miles. I'm still stuck in the old fashioned oci ways and days.

I'll post the results once I receive it.

well getting that tbn and hearing what they say might have some value of extended it if needed. I mean even conservatively you can go 5k miles on that if you want. If this was your first redline run, not a bad move, but really now 5k will serve anyone well. They have other measures then just tbn to help with a conservative interval, you wont have any oil shear, insolubles, water, silicone (from dirt), or heavy wear numbers by themselves create a condition where you want new oil. If you are absent all of this, why change it early? It's like throwing away money. If you feel so motivated, next time add TAN, really will tell a complete story. Especially with that filter, you are well covered.

 

[JHoward]

The recent oil sample I sent out today to Blackstone Lab is my HEMI's second run on Red Line 5w/30. Hopefully I'll get the oil test results back before the holidays.

My HEMI's current oil combo is Red Line 5w/30 and an AMSOIL EAO11 oil filter and is running along fine now ... the first day of the oil change my HEMI clattered a few seconds on start up ...

It's still early in this oci to make an opinion on this oil/filter combo, but I'll report back either good or bad.

 

[JHoward]

well getting that tbn and hearing what they say might have some value of extended it if needed. I mean even conservatively you can go 5k miles on that if you want. If this was your first redline run, not a bad move, but really now 5k will serve anyone well. They have other measures then just tbn to help with a conservative interval, you wont have any oil shear, insolubles, water, silicone (from dirt), or heavy wear numbers by themselves create a condition where you want new oil. If you are absent all of this, why change it early? It's like throwing away money. If you feel so motivated, next time add TAN, really will tell a complete story. Especially with that filter, you are well covered.

Yeh, I know ... thanks for that.

I wouldn't be afraid of running my HEMI at 5000 mile oci"s ... might as well give it a try.

Some day.

 

[06 Dodge]

I don't have issue with 10k intervals with the spunglass filtration as long as you back it up with tbn.

After learning from Cummins about Abrasive particles that can migrate downstream, I will not knowingly use any filter with Microglass/Spunglass media in any of my engines.....

 

[Burla]

Who says cummins says spun microglass causes abrasives? You can see our uoa's and testing paper in syn thread, this is fake filter news, lol. Show me proof anywhere else.

 

[Burla]

Two types of filters, one depends on binders that fail with heat cycles and do break off paper and send it through the engine, the other is spun glass. Same magnification, count me out on the paper.

 

[HEMIMANN]

Fleetguard sold microfiberglass filters for years - tradename was "Stratopore".