Can you order new 1500 without e-torque?

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I don’t own a truck with the Hurricane, and haven’t even seen one in person. But which internal parts of the engine are made of plastic? I’ve seen lots of external plastic parts, such as intake manifolds, timing covers, oil pans, and water pumps. But I can’t say I’ve ever seen a plastic internal engine part other than timing chain tensioners, which have been in use for decades now.
You are correct in that it is not 'internal' as you mentioned with timing chains.
The plastic thermostat that fails where some vehicle blew the motor under 1,000 miles from new.



 

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Wait till the Rumble Bee hits the dealers,as it supposedly has no e-torque
It looks like they're going to drop the etorque on the V8 engines going into the Ram trucks.
 

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I'm not getting my hopes up yet. In the interview, TK specifically mentions Express trims for the non-etorque Hemi. Does that mean that higher trim levels will still get the Hemi with etorque? Hopefully they'll just let the buyer decide, like they did for 2019 thru 2022 models.
 

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I'm not getting my hopes up yet. In the interview, TK specifically mentions Express trims for the non-etorque Hemi. Does that mean that higher trim levels will still get the Hemi with etorque? Hopefully they'll just let the buyer decide, like they did for 2019 thru 2022 models.

I can see a marketing team deciding that means it's a luxury feature, and I suspect most customers don't know about the downsides until the downsides occur.
 

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Great news to see the beginning of the end for eTorque!!! The ROI on the eTorque system sucks, I think everyone that's paying attention knows it, including Kuniskis. But he can't come right out and say it, so he says this new truck model "has only one battery". Hopefully, this is his discreet method of letting it fade away completely. Plus, as he noted, profitability will go up, as the eTorque system must be costly to install and warranty.
 

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The article focuses on Tundra but the REAL Issue is in the design flaws of NEW & IMPROVED = B.S.

As i said = this is across the board for all makes = Ford GM RAM Toyota

RAM Hurricane has serious problems from design flaws which include plastic internal parts along with electrical issues and such

GM with collapsing lifters, bad trans and such forth

You should really stop running your mouth if you can't back up your claims. For the THIRD time now, you've spoken of the widespread, serious problems with the Hurricane engine...and for the THIRD time now, I'm asking you to back it up. Show me these major problems with the hurricane...time to put up or shut up.
 

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You should really stop running your mouth if you can't back up your claims. For the THIRD time now, you've spoken of the widespread, serious problems with the Hurricane engine...and for the THIRD time now, I'm asking you to back it up. Show me these major problems with the hurricane...time to put up or shut up.
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What? Someone wanting you to back up your claims of widespread Hurricane issues?
Maybe the Gen5 STLA platform electrical and infotainment issues but not the engine.
Nothing more annoying reading someone proclaiming problems that bigger than they really are or none existent. Like the EcoD blowing a turbo every 100K, or the Cummins grid heater bolt, do they happen yes are they a major problem NOPE! There's probably more Hemi's by percentage that suffer the "Tick" than either of those problems mentioned.
 
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What? Someone wanting you to back up your claims of widespread Hurricane issues?
Maybe the Gen5 STLA platform electrical and infotainment issues but not the engine.
Nothing more annoying reading someone proclaiming problems that bigger than they really are or none existent. Like the EcoD blowing a turbo every 100K, or the Cummins grid heater bolt, do they happen yes are they a major problem NOPE! There's probably more Hemi's by percentage that suffer the "Tick" than either of those problems mentioned.
 

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What? Someone wanting you to back up your claims of widespread Hurricane issues?
Maybe the Gen5 STLA platform electrical and infotainment issues but not the engine.
Nothing more annoying reading someone proclaiming problems that bigger than they really are or none existent. Like the EcoD blowing a turbo every 100K, or the Cummins grid heater bolt, do they happen yes are they a major problem NOPE! There's probably more Hemi's by percentage that suffer the "Tick" than either of those problems mentioned.
 

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What? Someone wanting you to back up your claims of widespread Hurricane issues?
Maybe the Gen5 STLA platform electrical and infotainment issues but not the engine.
Nothing more annoying reading someone proclaiming problems that bigger than they really are or none existent. Like the EcoD blowing a turbo every 100K, or the Cummins grid heater bolt, do they happen yes are they a major problem NOPE! There's probably more Hemi's by percentage that suffer the "Tick" than either of those problems mentioned.
 

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That's a lot of words for so little information. While I am still very much into a "wait and see" approach into the long term durability of the Hurricane, an article that's obviously AI generated and pulled from the web with no verification, listing exactly one truck, doesn't seem to be proof of a current widespread issue.
 

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That's a lot of words for so little information. While I am still very much into a "wait and see" approach into the long term durability of the Hurricane, an article that's obviously AI generated and pulled from the web with no verification, listing exactly one truck, doesn't seem to be proof of a current widespread issue.

Check out the background of the Editor from the first article
 

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David, stop trolling, just leave.......... or you will
get the boot.........
Freind, I am not a troll, but I am inquisitive, especially on the workings of todays motors/technology = i research and speak to mechanics

I have owned trucks most my life and I am 65.
My first RAM was a NEW 2007 2500 Quad Cab 4WD 8ft Bed 5.9L Cummins = LOVED that Truck
Years later things changed and I did not need the diesel so I sold it and went back to gas.

Last year I purchased a 2022 RAM 1500 HEMI = Thanks to the many wonderful RAM owners on this forum, like yourself.

Before I purchased the 2022 HEMI, I was on this forum asking questions to which @Wild one @RamDiver @mikeru were very helpful.
We talked about the Hurricane as that was my first choice.
It was the members on this forum that helped sway me to the HEMI (non-eTorque)

Found one with only 2,300 miles and flew down to North Carolina where it was located at a CDJR Dealership.
My wife, son and I loved driving this 2022 HEMI home.
Interestingly, my 2007 RAM 2500 Cummins also was from North Carolina as there did not exist one in NJ as they were all sold out by November.

So thank you for your input in making Ramforum a great place for RAM owners to inquire and post.

FYI - I was so IMPRESSED by the 2026 SST that I was READY to sell my 2022 and jump into a Hurricane
But that was test drives.
I have always waited for New & Improved to have at least 4 years in production to gather feedback for my purchase decision.
5th Year out seems to be when the ice is thick enough to drive on.

Thanks Again KB
 
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Check out the background of the Editor from the first article

Short version:
Cool, I guess, if the question is who knows more about engineering and having related degrees he wins. That doesn't change the fact the articles show a lot of the signs of AI generated content and his example size is one.

Longer version:
I say this as someone who is a published author in both book format and online, and who was repeatedly offered a writing job for magazines (remember when those were relevant?)... generating interesting and informative expert written content for laymen repeatedly is tough. This website looks like a content mill, and one using AI prompts to make the articles.

Let's look at a few headlines, shall we:
Castrol vs Mobil 1: Which Synthetic Oil Actually Protects Your Engine Better?
Valvoline vs Pennzoil: Which Motor Oil Actually Protects Your Engine Better?
Valvoline vs Mobil 1: Which Motor Oil Actually Protects Your Engine Better?
Pennzoil vs Mobil 1: Which Synthetic Oil Actually Protects Your Engine Better?

See the pattern? Content mill. Then see how needlessly repetitive the articles are in word choice. A hallmark of both AI generated text and someone who's milking ad revenue by getting clicks vs one clean article comparing all the synthetic oils in a concise and clear format. Now see how the formatting preferences change. Human writers have a tone and a punctuation style preference. AI is an amalgamation.

So, I don't have a lot of respect for the article, the lack of sources beyond a singular example that was just pulled off the web, or the website itself regardless of the alleged author's degree or career field. I could have written the same thing article with AI prompts.
 

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Short version:
Cool, I guess, if the question is who knows more about engineering and having related degrees he wins. That doesn't change the fact the articles show a lot of the signs of AI generated content and his example size is one.

Longer version:
I say this as someone who is a published author in both book format and online, and who was repeatedly offered a writing job for magazines (remember when those were relevant?)... generating interesting and informative expert written content for laymen repeatedly is tough. This website looks like a content mill, and one using AI prompts to make the articles.

Let's look at a few headlines, shall we:
Castrol vs Mobil 1: Which Synthetic Oil Actually Protects Your Engine Better?
Valvoline vs Pennzoil: Which Motor Oil Actually Protects Your Engine Better?
Valvoline vs Mobil 1: Which Motor Oil Actually Protects Your Engine Better?
Pennzoil vs Mobil 1: Which Synthetic Oil Actually Protects Your Engine Better?

See the pattern? Content mill. Then see how needlessly repetitive the articles are in word choice. A hallmark of both AI generated text and someone who's milking ad revenue by getting clicks vs one clean article comparing all the synthetic oils in a concise and clear format. Now see how the formatting preferences change. Human writers have a tone and a punctuation style preference. AI is an amalgamation.

So, I don't have a lot of respect for the article, the lack of sources beyond a singular example that was just pulled off the web, or the website itself regardless of the alleged author's degree or career field. I could have written the same thing article with AI prompts.
Please read post 97 - thanks
 
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