Do I have a lifter going out? YES, I DO!!!!!!

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Video of #5 lifters, will post a complete video later.

You caught it early,as it's just starting to wear the corner off the lifter body,good catch Ed,you were on the ball catching that before it caused alot more head-aches.
 
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You caught it early,as it's just starting to wear the corner off the lifter body,good catch Ed,you were on the ball catching that before it caused alot more head-aches.
Thank you, Rick.

That first time I heard the tap, I just knew it was different than all the other quirky noises I've heard from the girl.

I've updated the title and first post of this thread as well. Almost to the halfway point.
 
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Kinda makes me wonder how many other people catch it early, chock it up to "hemi tick", then throw in some additives, fancy oil, and spend the next few thousand miles ruining their engine.
Ken, I absolutely could not hear it inside the cab. I just happened to have the door open on a start after dropping off food to my mother-in-law.

It made that tap, tap, tap sound during the crank, and it sounded nothing like the lifter bleed-down tap when I short-trip it cold. In fact, I don't remember hearing the bleed-down tap during the crank to start, either. Besides, it was full-hot when I heard it the first time.

I have no clue if/how long it might have been doing it either. I drove it for a couple days after first hearing it, maybe 150 miles. I'm just really thankful I decided not to drive it further.

Actually, the stethascope revealed the area, I could hear it best on the intake side of the valve cover between #5 and #7 cylinder.
 
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Oh, and I wasn't sure just how heavy the heads were, so I fashioned a couple makeshift handles with some baling wire wrapped between some screws and washers in the valve cover bolt holes.

Probably unnecessary, but it made them easier for me to pick up off the block while laying on the topside creeper.

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Oh, and I wasn't sure just how heavy the heads were, so I fashioned a couple makeshift handles with some baling wire wrapped between some screws and washers in the valve cover bolt holes.

Probably unnecessary, but it made them easier for me to pick up off the block while laying on the topside creeper.

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Damn that's a genius idea Ed,most of us just grab onto the heads, i'm gonna keep the handle idea in the back of my mind for future use
 
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I wanna see a pic of the cam ... probably still looks ok.

Man, you caught that just in time.
That's coming.

I had to do some running around today, so was not able to pull the cam.

We have to go to NC for my Grandson's HS graduation, so likely won't get a chance to continue until our return.

The Ram was the vehicle we would have taken, too. Just imagine if I had driven 1600 to 2000 miles on that bad lifter. It sucks we had to rent something, but a blessing as well. I definately wouldn't want to have broken down many miles away from home.
 
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That's coming.

I had to do some running around today, so was not able to pull the cam.

We have to go to NC for my Grandson's HS graduation, so likely won't get a chance to continue until our return.

The Ram was the vehicle we would have taken, too. Just imagine if I had driven 1600 to 2000 mikes on that bad lifter. It sucks we had to rent something, but a blessing as well. I definately wouln't want to have broken down many miles away from home.

Yep, absolutely. Safe travels to you and yours.
 
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I wanna see a pic of the cam ... I'm sure there is wear there.

Man, you caught that just in time.
Yep, my money is on some damage as well.

Did you know there's a $100 core charge on the cam? Are they hiding the evidence of failures, or do they actually refurbish them?
 

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Yep, my money is on some damage as well.

Did you know there's a $100 core charge on the cam? Are they hiding the evidence of failures, or do they actually refurbish them?

I wasn't aware of an core charge on an cam.

I don't think that I'd like knowing that I bought an cam that has been "refurbished" ... if that's what is done. I'd be wanting a brand new one, idk.
 
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Yea, you definitely dodged a bullet by being smart about this.

I have recent experience in this, and it cost me a helluva lot more than a cam/lifter job.
What happened?
 

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What happened?

I'll try to condense a long story down to something less than a wall of text.

I'm 1 year from retiring and moving home. So every year when we take a vacation, I take something back to put in storage. The year before last it was my double axle trailer smoker. Last year it was my 20ft Chaparral boat.

Two months ago, it was a cargo trailer with my two motorcycles, steel targets, and anything else that would fit in my 6x14 cargo trailer. About 4500lbs, which we towed with the wife's 2011 Dodge Durango 5.7 Hemi (130,000 miles, 7500lbs tow capacity).

About the first few hours into the trip, I started with flu type symptoms. Really dry throat, coughing, sneezing, runny nose. Just, really felt like ****. So, regardless, drove about 12 hours the first day. Then about 12 more the 2nd day.

On the 3rd day, about 2/3 of the way, the transmission (545rfe) started to feel like it was slipping about 2 hours north of Albuquerque, NM. It started with some odd shifting, then slipping a little. We pulled over and I checked the transmission fluid, which looked good.

When I got back in and shifted into drive, there was a kinda loud, violent clunk. Shifting into park, reverse, or drive it did the same thing, a loud, metallic clunk sound. I thought maybe a U joint, so crawled under and had the wife shift back and forth between park, reverse and drive. I didn't notice anything like a worn U-joint, but the transmission seemed to jump/jolt quite a bit every time she shifted.


So, we carefully limped it to the nearest hotel that would let us stay with two dogs, which was a ******** that looked like a great place to get stabbed. I checked the wife/dogs into the motel, then dropped the Durango off at the nearest dealer and got an Uber back to the motel.
After the Uber dropped me off, while I walked through the hotel lobby towards our room, there was a guy checking-in, wearing a hoodie that was soaked in blood, dripping blood onto the floor. Standing in a puddle of his own blood, and neither him nor the ******* clerk checking him seemed to even notice.

The next day, the dealer said it would need a transmission and it might be a couple weeks before they could get one in.

At that point, I was well and thoroughly sick with some kind of super dry cough flu, angry and just wanted to get the **** out of that hotel, so I got an Uber back to the dealership and just bought another car.

The wife doesn't have a 2011 Durango any more. Now she has a 2022 Durango RT, 5.7 with the 8 speed. It towed that trailer like it wasn't even back there.

It was really expensive, and I do NOT like spending large amounts of money this close to retirement. It was an emotional decision, which I hate. But, it is a pretty badass car.


If the breakdown had occurred at home, or at our destination, i could have just have bought a transmission and installed it in a day. But it chose to do it in Albuquerque, NM. For someone as cheap as me, buying a car is a traumatic experience. :( I thought of renting a car to continue the trip, but the rental companies were a hard no on towing. Having a trailer and two dogs really limits the options.

When you need one that can tow over mountain ranges, has a trailer brake controller, and enough interior room for a woman and two bigass dogs, the only leaves expensive cars as options.



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I'll try to condense a long story down to something less than a wall of text.

I'm 1 year from retiring and moving home. So every year when we take a vacation, I take something back to put in storage. The year before last it was my double axle trailer smoker. Last year it was my 20ft Chaparral boat.

Two months ago, it was a cargo trailer with my two motorcycles, steel targets, and anything else that would fit in my 6x14 cargo trailer. About 4500lbs, which we towed with the wife's 2011 Dodge Durango 5.7 Hemi (130,000 miles, 7500lbs tow capacity).

About the first few hours into the trip, I started with flu type symptoms. Really dry throat, coughing, sneezing, runny nose. Just, really felt like ****. So, regardless, drove about 12 hours the first day. Then about 12 more the 2nd day.

On the 3rd day, about 2/3 of the way, the transmission (545rfe) started to feel like it was slipping about 2 hours north of Albuquerque, NM. It started with some odd shifting, then slipping a little. We pulled over and I checked the transmission fluid, which looked good.

When I got back in and shifted into drive, there was a kinda loud, violent clunk. Shifting into park, reverse, or drive it did the same thing, a loud, metallic clunk sound. I thought maybe a U joint, so crawled under and had the wife shift back and forth between park, reverse and drive. I didn't notice anything like a worn U-joint, but the transmission seemed to jump/jolt quite a bit every time she shifted.


So, we carefully limped it to the nearest hotel that would let us stay with two dogs, which was a ******** that looked like a great place to get stabbed. I checked the wife/dogs into the motel, then dropped the Durango off at the nearest dealer and got an Uber back to the motel.
After the Uber dropped me off, while I walked through the hotel lobby towards our room, there was a guy checking-in, wearing a hoodie that was soaked in blood, dripping blood onto the floor. Standing in a puddle of his own blood, and neither him nor the ******* clerk checking him seemed to even notice.

The next day, the dealer said it would need a transmission and it might be a couple weeks before they could get one in.

At that point, I was well and thoroughly sick with some kind of super dry cough flu, angry and just wanted to get the **** out of that hotel, so I got an Uber back to the dealership and just bought another car.

The wife doesn't have a 2011 Durango any more. Now she has a 2022 Durango RT, 5.7 with the 8 speed. It towed that trailer like it wasn't even back there.

It was really expensive, and I do NOT like spending large amounts of money this close to retirement. It was an emotional decision, which I hate. But, it is a pretty badass car.


If the breakdown had occurred at home, or at our destination, i could have just have bought a transmission and installed it in a day. But it chose to do it in Albuquerque, NM. For someone as cheap as me, buying a car is a traumatic experience. :( I thought of renting a car to continue the trip, but the rental companies were a hard no on towing. Having a trailer and two dogs really limits the options.

When you need one that can tow over mountain ranges, has a trailer brake controller, and enough interior room for a woman and two bigass dogs, the only leaves expensive cars as options.



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OMG, Ken, that really sucks. Sorry you had to go through that.

That R/T looks pretty sweet, though.

I cannot imagine breaking down like that so far away from home. Not to mention, having to deal with buying a vehicle on the spot, under pressure, along with having the funk.

I hate car buying also, detest the games they play. Just give me a price out the door, and if it's good, I'll buy.

At least you had the means to buy something (even though payments suck), I'd be a wreck, and probably stroke out from the stress.
 
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