First and Last Ram 2025 1500.

[airrecon]

I am really surprised at the electronics on this thing are so bad, and Ram Cares doesn't care about it. I bring it to the dealer and the service writer says it is acting normal, like the rest of them. It may be Normal but it is not right. The Temp display on the U-connect, the gear number on the Evic. The ODO on the Evic are so light and in a different font you can't see them when the sun shines. There is no way to brighten them up either. Its beeps so much when you go to back up, I just turn off the beeper. The Temp is always 20 to 30 degrees hotter then it is out side. There is a recall for the TPMS saying inflate to 50PSI. I know that isn't right. I bring it in, and the service writer says I don't have a recall on my vehicle so there is nothing they can do. He tells me I have to call Ram Cares, I call and they say I don't have a recall so there is nothing they can do, bring it to the dealer, I state the numbers are also to dim to see, they say bring it to the dealer. Dealer says call Ram Cares. Today I go to leave to run to Lowes to get some material, and the garage door buttons don't work or light the little LED. I stop by the dealer to see if there is a Fuse for it. He press the button and the little LED lights up. I get home and it is working again. The engine seems to run fine, it gets good gas milage, shifting is a bit strange, but I can get used to that, (it might be the way I drive). I really want to like this truck, but I am really thinking of running it off a cliff, and never buying Stalantis (SP) again. I really wanted to like this truck but all the little things are adding up to just plain P---ing me off. Sorry had to vent, but there has to be a better way to get the engineers to fix the little BS problems. The service writer and dealer are not the issue, how to get problems back the the Mother Ship are

Many times, I have had service departments tell me something is normal and they all do it. Go back into the dealer and find a salesperson as if you were a buyer, and while looking at identical models, see if they all do it. If not, go back into service and tell the ******** all the rest of his vehicles are broken because they do not display the same issue he has told you it is normal, and all do it. The looks on their faces and reactions can be interesting.

"Ram Cares" is an oxymoron. We should all be writing Tim Kuniskis, who was recently appointed to lead Stelantis North American brands, marketing, and retail strategy. He is the one who came back to Dodge and made all the recent changes in that brand and brought the Hemi back to Rams.
Write him! Don't just complain here.

 

[Hagar1]

Hate to say it, but you are the beta tester. Which is why I never buy a first year anything. Brand matters not. First year anything is always littered with issues that are corrected in following model years.

Only thing I can say is to document, video record every issue, every time it happens. Take it to the dealer for every issue. Build a case and lemon the thing out.

It is fairly safe to buy THIRD year production. The first year may be fraught with problems, the second year is generally where the "fix" happens, the 3rd year, things are generally OK but from year 4 and onward, they start looking at ways to cut costs.

 

[airrecon]

I had a 1980 C10, in 1982 the passenger floor board rusted through, and the 350 engine left me stranded one to many times. So I agree with your GM boycott. I also had a few friends that had Suburbans with the 5X engine, with the 100K mile warranty. Every one had the same issue with the cam lobes wearing down on the back two cylinders and causing them to rattle real bad. They all started around 70K miles. They brought them into service for the rattle, and where told they all do that it is normal. Then when the hit 100K plus they said the cause was the cam lobes and the needed to pay to have them fixed. That settled any idea of me buying a GM.

As for the issues I am having, they do not rise to lemon law level. They will say it is normal, not right but normal. I might fire off a letter to the CEO just to ask how do you raise a complaint when no one listens.

Thanks

Tim Kuniskis, former head of Dodge who brought the Hemi back to Ram, recently took over North American operations.
Write him, we all need to do so.

I am in the market to replace my great 2019 loaded Longhorn 1500, but I have no idea what to buy.
Even the technicians cannot get any help from Ram support, and GM and Ford seem to have the same glitches, plus major engine problems. Even Toyota is in the dumps quality-wise. The major recalls of all are stunning. I need a pickup, so I guess I will keep this one a couple of more years and then look for a decent SUV, which also, when loaded like a new Ram, costs about 25K less.

 

[SampleNHold]

I have a 2025 1500 Tungsten with about 6400 on it now. As far as the outside temp reading, it was way off in the beginning, about 10-15 degrees high. But it seems to be about right now, seven months later.

 

[johnhenryculver]

I am really surprised at the electronics on this thing are so bad, and Ram Cares doesn't care about it. I bring it to the dealer and the service writer says it is acting normal, like the rest of them. It may be Normal but it is not right. The Temp display on the U-connect, the gear number on the Evic. The ODO on the Evic are so light and in a different font you can't see them when the sun shines. There is no way to brighten them up either. Its beeps so much when you go to back up, I just turn off the beeper. The Temp is always 20 to 30 degrees hotter then it is out side. There is a recall for the TPMS saying inflate to 50PSI. I know that isn't right. I bring it in, and the service writer says I don't have a recall on my vehicle so there is nothing they can do. He tells me I have to call Ram Cares, I call and they say I don't have a recall so there is nothing they can do, bring it to the dealer, I state the numbers are also to dim to see, they say bring it to the dealer. Dealer says call Ram Cares. Today I go to leave to run to Lowes to get some material, and the garage door buttons don't work or light the little LED. I stop by the dealer to see if there is a Fuse for it. He press the button and the little LED lights up. I get home and it is working again. The engine seems to run fine, it gets good gas milage, shifting is a bit strange, but I can get used to that, (it might be the way I drive). I really want to like this truck, but I am really thinking of running it off a cliff, and never buying Stalantis (SP) again. I really wanted to like this truck but all the little things are adding up to just plain P---ing me off. Sorry had to vent, but there has to be a better way to get the engineers to fix the little BS problems. The service writer and dealer are not the issue, how to get problems back the the Mother Ship are

I have a 2019 Laramie 5.7 Hemi with NO EPA b.s.! No vvt, mds or e torque, just a regular engine. No problems except for the exhaust manifold issues most people experience. I was ready to go to the dealer and order the 2026 Hemi but after finding out how it is equipped with mds vvt and etorque and terrible Ramcares support FORGET IT! Not giving you my hard earned $$ until you guys get your act together!

 

[Mlarv5]

Many times, I have had service departments tell me something is normal and they all do it. Go back into the dealer and find a salesperson as if you were a buyer, and while looking at identical models, see if they all do it. If not, go back into service and tell the ******** all the rest of his vehicles are broken because they do not display the same issue he has told you it is normal, and all do it. The looks on their faces and reactions can be interesting.

"Ram Cares" is an oxymoron. We should all be writing Tim Kuniskis, who was recently appointed to lead Stelantis North American brands, marketing, and retail strategy. He is the one who came back to Dodge and made all the recent changes in that brand and brought the Hemi back to Rams.
Write him! Don't just complain here.

The problem is, I have seen the same issues on several different trucks equipped the same way as mine. That is the first thing I did, was walk out to few other ones and check.

 

[Mlarv5]

Tim Kuniskis, former head of Dodge who brought the Hemi back to Ram, recently took over North American operations.
Write him, we all need to do so.

If anybody has a good address for him, I will write it out here and send him a letter.

 

[Jmull]

It is fairly safe to buy THIRD year production. The first year may be fraught with problems, the second year is generally where the "fix" happens, the 3rd year, things are generally OK but from year 4 and onward, they start looking at ways to cut costs.

My experience with Ram: I bought a 2024 2500 Cummins, and nothing but problems with the electronics. WAY too many to list here. I find out that owners have been complaining since 2019. They FINALLY admitted there is an issue in February this year, but have no resolution in sight. I will never by another Ram pickup.

 

[06 Dodge]

My experience with Ram: I bought a 2024 2500 Cummins, and nothing but problems with the electronics. WAY too many to list here. I find out that owners have been complaining since 2019. They FINALLY admitted there is an issue in February this year, but have no resolution in sight. I will never by another Ram pickup.

What electronic problems are you having, where are you reading about such problems, so far the problems I have are not electronics related...

 

[Flynight]

I can’t help you with your other problems but as for the outside temperature difference, I have never had any car that the temperature has been remotely close.

 

[MrFigs]

My experience with Ram: I bought a 2024 2500 Cummins, and nothing but problems with the electronics. WAY too many to list here. I find out that owners have been complaining since 2019. They FINALLY admitted there is an issue in February this year, but have no resolution in sight. I will never by another Ram pickup.

I heard that too on the 2019+ even the classic series. Saw a guy in a drive through his 2023 Classic just died, push button wouldn't do anything... So I just bought a low milage used 2017 with all the features i wanted, none i don't (well other than the forward parking radar thing) Like I don't want lane keeping, cross traffic, auto braking, telematics, blah blah blah I have a push bar on my '12 that'll be moving to the '17 here that I actually use to push dead vehicles with.

 

[Frisk]

I watched an interview with I think it was the Ford CEO and he talked about how the manufactures don't write much of their own code. They buy a bunch of systems from vendors like Bosch etc and then have to try to get it all to work together. There is so much legacy code that few people truly understand it. They just patch things together to get them to work. The CEO claimed it was an industry wide problem and a result of the pursuit of the lowest cost. Not to excuse them when its their name on the truck but I can see what a monster problem this would be to fix unless there was a blank sheet of paper approach.

 

[06 Dodge]

I watched an interview with I think it was the Ford CEO and he talked about how the manufactures don't write much of their own code. They buy a bunch of systems from vendors like Bosch etc and then have to try to get it all to work together. There is so much legacy code that few people truly understand it. They just patch things together to get them to work. The CEO claimed it was an industry wide problem and a result of the pursuit of the lowest cost. Not to excuse them when its their name on the truck but I can see what a monster problem this would be to fix unless there was a blank sheet of paper approach.

In plain words they learned from Microsoft example that with enough money & cheap 3rd world labor you can make spaghetti code work, I know an Intel worker who has seen there badly written code, he compared it to the looks of a box of spaghetti that was dropped an strewn on the floor...

 

[JHoward]

Tim Kuniskis, former head of Dodge who brought the Hemi back to Ram, recently took over North American operations.
Write him, we all need to do so.

I am in the market to replace my great 2019 loaded Longhorn 1500, but I have no idea what to buy.
Even the technicians cannot get any help from Ram support, and GM and Ford seem to have the same glitches, plus major engine problems. Even Toyota is in the dumps quality-wise. The major recalls of all are stunning. I need a pickup, so I guess I will keep this one a couple of more years and then look for a decent SUV, which also, when loaded like a new Ram, costs about 25K less.

... I ... have ... a 2025 ... Nissan Frontier ... and ... like ... it ...

I hope that I disguised my comment good.

 

[TruckNut]

... I ... have ... a 2025 ... Nissan Frontier ... and ... like ... it ...

I hope that I disguised my comment good.

Ha ha ha ha ha, I just bought a Frontier Pro4X long bed 2 weeks ago and really like it. Sold my Titan which was an excellent full size. Wanted a midsize with a V6 and no MDS. Hoping Ram comes out with a midsize. I had a 92 Dakota for 10 years that was an amazing truck……complete with old school 318 V-8 in it. My 2015 and 2017 Rams had no issues…….and no eTorque.

 

[SilverLimited]

The old rule was dont buy anything first year of production, the new rule is dont buy anything new, as in ever. peoples "expectations" about new vehicles get in the way of what is happening. In the old days a truck would last you a solid ten years, now we got guys nowhere close with fixes that cant even be fixed with no truck and likely a monster truck payment. So no thank you to the high loan rates either, the EU which is a mirror economy to the USA has a mortgage rate at 3.8% and America is almost 7%. Why? Because the EU is where all of the credit agencies are so they get to set rates, lol. Mind you look at the debt to GDP they carry compared to us, eye opening! Why this matters, it costs you extra thousands on your truck payment. Ram wants you to protest with their new protest badge, i agree. Protest buy not buying the badge under these extreme conditions. People that buy new vehicles are getting screwed by so many angles you need a geonomotrist and a gynecologist to get you out of the hole you put yourself in.

Unfortunately you are correct. There is not a major manufacturer new truck out there that isn’t having problems. GM is blowing through engines because of bearings disintegrating they are so desperate they want customers to put in molasses weight motor oil to stop the hemorrhaging. The Ford/GM collaboration with the truck transmission is a disaster with the transmission needing major repairs. The once reliable Tundra has so many engine issues the shops are backed up a year with warranty work. I had a 2017 Limited with Hemi and loved it but it was getting long in the tooth and even though I’m meticulously with maintenance I still was concerned about lifter failures and exhaust manifolds bolts. I now have a 25 Long Horn with SST that I intentionally purchased without the over the top electronics. As my pop use to say the more options the more likely one of them is going to crap out on you. A lot of folks seem to have issues with the ambient temperature being off, Ram in it’s infinite wisdom put the ambient temperature sensor in the black housing of the drivers side mirror (it’s that little probe looking thing on the bottom of the mirror) sun shining on black plastic creates heat, I maybe not be an engineer but I think there was a better place to locate that.

 

[turkeybird56]

Unfortunately you are correct. There is not a major manufacturer new truck out there that isn’t having problems. GM is blowing through engines because of bearings disintegrating they are so desperate they want customers to put in molasses weight motor oil to stop the hemorrhaging. The Ford/GM collaboration with the truck transmission is a disaster with the transmission needing major repairs. The once reliable Tundra has so many engine issues the shops are backed up a year with warranty work. I had a 2017 Limited with Hemi and loved it but it was getting long in the tooth and even though I’m meticulously with maintenance I still was concerned about lifter failures and exhaust manifolds bolts. I now have a 25 Long Horn with SST that I intentionally purchased without the over the top electronics. As my pop use to say the more options the more likely one of them is going to crap out on you. A lot of folks seem to have issues with the ambient temperature being off, Ram in it’s infinite wisdom put the ambient temperature sensor in the black housing of the drivers side mirror (it’s that little probe looking thing on the bottom of the mirror) sun shining on black plastic creates heat, I maybe not be an engineer but I think there was a better place to locate that.

RAM has put that temp sensor in left mirror forever.

 

[SilverLimited]

RAM has put that temp sensor in left mirror forever.

Yes they have and it’s been an ongoing issue that they seem to ignore. Owners have been complaining for years that it’s not working correctly.

 

[turkeybird56]

Yes they have and it’s been an ongoing issue that they seem to ignore. Owners have been complaining for years that it’s not working correctly.

When I wash my truck, my temp when hot out goes down to 79F and it takes eons to clear, LOL.

 

[Tulecreeper]

When I wash my truck, my temp when hot out goes down to 79F and it takes eons to clear, LOL.

What is this 'wash truck' thing of which you speak?