First Ram!:) 3.0 inline 6

[HEMIMANN]

Glad to hear you are enjoying it. I drove one and was amazed at how quiet it was and how fast it scooted when you just touched the gas. Always loved inline sixes for their smoothness. Hope they keep this engine around after they reintroduce the hemi. It is remarkable.

The real question for this motor isn't what it will do off the showroom floor. We all know Beemer engines are top notch.
I think the era of trucks for image is over at these prices for the average Joe, and guys just out of school. Credit is tapped out also. Unless they're dumb enough to take 10+ years loans on a depreciating asset.

So the actual question is if this Beemer motor will last if actually used like a truck. My put is no, it won't, just like Ford's ecoboost did not ~ 70k miles failures.
This goes back to US EPA 2000's fuel economy mandates when OEM's choose between two differing engine architectures to increase mileage: the same size legacy engines with cylinder cutouts, or small engines worked too hard WHEN used like a truck (towing).
Both have failed. There is no utopia. GDI yielded +5% when Mitsubishi touted +20%, and it wrecks gas engines, too.

High pressure diesels WERE the answer, until EPA killed the exhaust systems. And we all know about EV weaknesses.

Choose your poison and live with it, but being a fanboy of any without acknowledging the issues is setting yourself up for expensive surprises.

 

[mikeru]

I’m a little less cynical than you I guess, but I share your sentiment. I’d prefer to have a larger displacement naturally aspirated engine in a truck. Having said that, I own a 2014 F150 Limited with the 3.5 EB engine. I got a great deal on it, otherwise I would have chosen a different truck at the time I bought it. It currently has 130k miles on it and runs great. I don’t use it for towing but the previous owners regularly towed with it. So they can and do work in a half ton truck.

Ideally we’ll be able to choose between smaller forced induction or larger naturally aspirated engines based on our preference, when buying a Ram 1500. Which is the way it should be.

 

[Six Turboed]

We have folks that have bought the new 25 Ram trucks and not have any problems with them and if they do most are being taken care of. Yup there are some out there that have troubles but they are few at this point.
Then we have a few out there that come out and say "yes er re Bob it is going to fail" but the true test will be how long the engine lasts, and that just gets repeated over and over and over again.
The engine has been out three years now and they seem to be doing just fine, and people are reporting they pull hard and like the way it tows X Y and Z. (And yes first year for the Ram, everyone knows this or at least should by now)!!

No one can predict the future for any automobile no matter what they say. If they could they would be millionaires multi times over. That just leaves their opinion and Ram did a lot of testing hoping this engine does last. They have also stated this engine will be in many models in the future. If Ram is putting all this backing behind this motor I would be willing to bet it'll be a motor that last a good bit, it is going to be used and abused and in the next couple years we all shall see what it what. Yup, time will tell and until such time passes it is all purely speculation by some. I reckon those that do not like the inline 6 will be not be purchasing one but it looks like there will only be two choices in the future for Ram. Either the V8 again or the SST6 and if they do not like that they can go search some other place.

I am hoping our truck last many years now as my wife and I are getting older and we both like our truck and being that there really is nothing better out there we do not want to be buying new vehicles anymore. This was our last purchase. (This could change but as of now it should not) It hauls more than two people very comfortably, it hauls all sorts of things including BUTT!!! it tows well, and is comfortable to drive!! So we are with the bunch that are thinking it is going to last longer than some expect it too!
To those that purchase some other truck y'all should be worried about if that truck is going to last! instead of worrying if this truck is going to last. HA!!!!
Best Of Luck To Ya

 

[Six Turboed]

I found a bunch of threads for check engine light on but did not find a dedicated thread that everyone can go post on so I thought I would just add it here.
Coming home today I was feathering the gas pedal/ messing around but was not flooring it. Next thing I knew the engine light came on. I thought about going home and disconnecting the battery but since the dealer is close I drove straight there. I told a fib,,, I told my service guy we were fixin to leave town. It was another non stored code this time a knock sensor. That led into where do I buy gas and this and that. Told him Exxon same gas station for years no matter what the price is and I have put 93 octane in it since we bought it. Service guy suggested octane booster? I asked him won't that hurt the motor he said no. I did not add the octane booster but on the way home I mashed the gas a couple times all the way to the floor. These dang trucks get up and move. My guess is these motors do not like messing around with the gas pedal and maybe I need to drive it a little harder.??? HA!!!
You can watch the fuel gauge move when you mash the gas too. 15 minutes at the dealer, asked if I could have taken it home and disconnect the battery for awhile then hook it back up. He says the code probably would have went away being it was not a stored code. Something the motor did not like for a second but now all back to normal I guess??? We shall see. If I did not live close and they would have made me leave it I would have been a little mad. After all we buy these vehicles on good faith! A guy and his wife were in there and he was pretty pissed because they could not get him a loaner. They have 25 loaners and all are out.
Onward!,,,, we shall see how the weekend pans out?

 

[ramffml]

We have folks that have bought the new 25 Ram trucks and not have any problems with them and if they do most are being taken care of. Yup there are some out there that have troubles but they are few at this point.
Then we have a few out there that come out and say "yes er re Bob it is going to fail" but the true test will be how long the engine lasts, and that just gets repeated over and over and over again.
The engine has been out three years now and they seem to be doing just fine, and people are reporting they pull hard and like the way it tows X Y and Z. (And yes first year for the Ram, everyone knows this or at least should by now)!!

No one can predict the future for any automobile no matter what they say. If they could they would be millionaires multi times over. That just leaves their opinion and Ram did a lot of testing hoping this engine does last. They have also stated this engine will be in many models in the future. If Ram is putting all this backing behind this motor I would be willing to bet it'll be a motor that last a good bit, it is going to be used and abused and in the next couple years we all shall see what it what. Yup, time will tell and until such time passes it is all purely speculation by some. I reckon those that do not like the inline 6 will be not be purchasing one but it looks like there will only be two choices in the future for Ram. Either the V8 again or the SST6 and if they do not like that they can go search some other place.

I am hoping our truck last many years now as my wife and I are getting older and we both like our truck and being that there really is nothing better out there we do not want to be buying new vehicles anymore. This was our last purchase. (This could change but as of now it should not) It hauls more than two people very comfortably, it hauls all sorts of things including BUTT!!! it tows well, and is comfortable to drive!! So we are with the bunch that are thinking it is going to last longer than some expect it too!
To those that purchase some other truck y'all should be worried about if that truck is going to last! instead of worrying if this truck is going to last. HA!!!!
Best Of Luck To Ya

I'm not trying to rag on you, but your post contains a lot of .... "wishful thinking".

"Ram putting all this backing behind this motor", how's that different than the pentastar and hemi, both of which have annoying or sometimes serious issues?

"Ram did a lot of testing", again, vs their other engines? Vs GM's 6.2 (specifically) and also the 5.3? Vs Ford's little ecoboom? All those engines had lots of testing and even more failures in the real world.

"Pull hard, like how it tows"; we knew that before it left the factory based on specs alone. Performance was never the question.

"Shouldn't worry if the truck lasts"... we know certain engine designs last longer, the NA v8 has an amazing history, based on design alone I'd bet on a V8 everytime over a high strung turbo, GM's two recent v8's being an exception to the rule, but even then the 6.2's recent recall/issues are manufacturing defects and not design defects.

And now you have a check engine light. I do hope it's nothing serious, please keep us posted.

 

[Six Turboed]

It was another non issue just like the misfire codes. It was not a stored code which I take it as not important. There are so many nanny's on these vehicles anymore I am really surprised the new vehicles run at all. Truck never ran any different than it does now and who knows maybe it got a sip of something it did not like for a second. I am not worried about it one bit. I like the truck and it does exactly what I want it to do. Service tech said he had two Waggoneers do the same thing this year, all the more reason for me not to worry about it. We are even going to get a chance to use the 4X this summer (Wyoming and Colorado) instead of only using it on steep wet boat ramps with heavy boats.
I can drive the truck, use it, do as I wish with in reason if something breaks it will not cost me a penny.

 

[Six Turboed]

ATTENTION!!!!
Another update

The CEL light would come on. I will spare y'all the details about my service guy trying to say it was that I got some bad gas.
Finally got to drop off the truck, because of the CEL would thru codes for Bank 2 Knock Sensor. It was another false code and would not store it, like it never happened but the light comes on.
They ran a Computer/systems update to fix it.
This new update fixed the CEL, and I do not know how but it also made the truck run even more smooth and more quieter??? (Have to look at the tach to make sure it is running). HA!!!
It also solved the issues with the truck talking to you all the time/running systems checks/talking to itself/ just making noises 24/7! HA!!!
My wife misses the truck noises.
I have had the truck back three days and I have not heard it make one noise since.

Really do like this truck, it is the smoothest riding truck that we have owned. Comfortable!!!!!

 

[turkeybird56]

ATTENTION!!!!
Another update

The CEL light would come on. I will spare y'all the details about my service guy trying to say it was that I got some bad gas.
Finally got to drop off the truck, because of the CEL would thru codes for Bank 2 Knock Sensor. It was another false code and would not store it, like it never happened but the light comes on.
They ran a Computer/systems update to fix it.
This new update fixed the CEL, and I do not know how but it also made the truck run even more smooth and more quieter??? (Have to look at the tach to make sure it is running). HA!!!
It also solved the issues with the truck talking to you all the time/running systems checks/talking to itself/ just making noises 24/7! HA!!!
My wife misses the truck noises.
I have had the truck back three days and I have not heard it make one noise since.

Really do like this truck, it is the smoothest riding truck that we have owned. Comfortable!!!!!

Glad you are having good luck with yer new ride, best wishes. I think as long as U use it as a GG getter primarily U be OK. Definitely run 89 gas in it, not 87, and use top tier fuel. I would also keep an eyeball on yer thermostat housing, as there have been issues with the "plastic". NE way, good luck with yer 25.

 

[Six Turboed]

Glad you are having good luck with yer new ride, best wishes. I think as long as U use it as a GG getter primarily U be OK. Definitely run 89 gas in it, not 87, and use top tier fuel. I would also keep an eyeball on yer thermostat housing, as there have been issues with the "plastic". NE way, good luck with yer 25.

From what I understand the thermostat deal is related to the jeeps not the trucks. Have not heard of anyone I know that has had that problem with the trucks. I do not own a construction company but my truck gets used like a truck.

 

[Six Turboed]

As a matter of fact just got back from hauling a momma cow and calf to a new pasture! Farmin stuff! HA!!
Hilarious!!
Definitely not a work truck 7 days a week but so far it has done all I have asked it to do.
This is our last truck so it better last!

 

[turkeybird56]

I’m a little less cynical than you I guess, but I share your sentiment. I’d prefer to have a larger displacement naturally aspirated engine in a truck. Having said that, I own a 2014 F150 Limited with the 3.5 EB engine. I got a great deal on it, otherwise I would have chosen a different truck at the time I bought it. It currently has 130k miles on it and runs great. I don’t use it for towing but the previous owners regularly towed with it. So they can and do work in a half ton truck.

Ideally we’ll be able to choose between smaller forced induction or larger naturally aspirated engines based on our preference, when buying a Ram 1500. Which is the way it should be.

Me personally Displacement not Replacement especially NA over DI forced turbo stuff. Why I would Neva buy a dual turbo inline DI forced motor let alone trying to force all that HP. But that is my opinion ne body wants to pony up and buy hey yer wallet. My son has a 2025 and I have already told him wat to watch for. As long as used as a GG think the platform will be OK. All above IMHO.

 

[HEMIMANN]

Me personally Displacement not Replacement especially NA over DI forced turbo stuff. Why I would Neva buy a dual turbo inline DI forced motor let alone trying to force all that HP. But that is my opinion ne body wants to pony up and buy hey yer wallet. My son has a 2025 and I have already told him wat to watch for. As long as used as a GG think the platform will be OK. All above IMHO.

Exactly right.

They make diesels for turbos and DI.

 

[Dodge 1500 4X4]

That Plastic thermostat that's in a plastic housing is what fails, it's not your normal thermostat, there is a plastic flapper that breaks off and it fails in the closed position yes that's right can overheat the engine you don't want to do that remember that hi pressure fuel pump for the direct injection is under high pressure ( 5,000) psi and the fuel lines run over the top of the engine, I know buyer beware, this engine is a engineering marvel, Skullantis at its finest.

 

[ramffml]

That Plastic thermostat that's in a plastic housing is what fails, it's not your normal thermostat, there is a plastic flapper that breaks off and it fails in the closed position yes that's right can overheat the engine you don't want to do that remember that hi pressure fuel pump for the direct injection is under high pressure ( 5,000) psi and the fuel lines run over the top of the engine, I know buyer beware, this engine is a engineering marvel, Skullantis at its finest.

Why are they using plastic for such a crucial feature. Good grief.

 

[Dodge 1500 4X4]

Why are they using plastic for such a crucial feature. Good grief.

Bean counters, they also saved BIG bucks on shortening all the wire harness looms, by 6 inches, I have a friend that works for CDJR and says they're multiple electrical problems, all of the harness connections are banjo tight, it's out of control!

 

[Docwagon1776]

Bean counters, they also saved BIG bucks on shortening all the wire harness looms, by 6 inches, I have a friend that works for CDJR and says they're multiple electrical problems, all of the harness connections are banjo tight, it's out of control!

Trying to cut their way to profitability by saving pennies on wire to spend dollars on warranty claims. Remember this next time you see posts about unions ruining the car companies...

 

[Farmer Fran]

I am not scared of this motor any more than any other motor in this segment