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Battery is better I think. I just wasn't sure if they run off 5v or 12v in the truck. I haven't looked at that yet (as I'm sure you can tell....lol).

I tend to overcomplicate things, too. I take the long way around the lake. I arrive at the destination, but am slow to arrive. :Big Laugh:
The majority of injector cleaning video's use a 12 volt battery to trigger the injector,but the majority of time i'm cleaning them,hooking up to a 12 volt automotive battery is more of a pain then it is a gain,plus the little 9 volt set-up i use is totally portable,and i can take it anywhere.A decent little 9 volt will usually do 2 complete sets of injectors before it's to far down to trigger them,i don't charge anything to do a buddies injectors ,but i always tell them to grab a new 9 volt battery and their own can of carb/choke cleaner,and i usually leave with their battery,lol
 

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..........i don't charge anything to do a buddies injectors ,but i always tell them to grab a new 9 volt battery and their own can of carb/choke cleaner,and i usually leave with their battery,lol
When are you coming to SW FL?, lol
 

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Personally when the trucks due for it's 100,000 mile spark plug tune up,i'd make time to do some maintence on the coils,and i'd also pull and clean the injectors,it's gonna eat up close to a day on a week-end,but it's better then parking your a s s on the couch watching football and drinking beer :Big Laugh:
Oh, I don't know about that!
 
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Oh, I don't know about that!
That's your call,but if you pay attention to the forums and facebook pages,it's not uncommon to hear of guys having injector issues.
Clue me into why maintaining your coils and injectors is a bad idea at a 100,000 miles,i'll wait for proof that it's a bad idea ;)
Other then the open weave sock on the pump basket,the only fuel filters on a Hemi are the screens inside the injectors,and i'm gonna guess back when you had vehicles with inline fuel filters you changed them occassionally,so why wouldn't you want to clean the screens inside the injectors
 
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Coil maintenance = scrub connectors? Check resistance?
Scrub the connection points under the springs and resistors, remove the springs inside the boots,and clean them up on a wire wheel,or if they're really corroded buy new boots with new springs from somewhere like Rock Auto.
A little maintence on coils and injectors goes along ways to maintaining a vehicle for many years.
As long as the coils are still firing the plugs it's hardly worth checking their resistance but you could if you wanted,here's the specs for checking their resistance.




Ign coil primary resistance 0.6 - 0.9 ohms

Ign coil secondary resistance 6,000 - 9,000 ohms

But there is another simple way to identify a bad coil: Remove the #2 coil and swap it out with another, easily accessible coil. Clear computer trouble codes. Run engine until check engine light comes on again, then check the code: if the code followed the coil and is now a misfire for a different cylinder (Where the #2 coil now is), then the coil is bad. If the misfire stayed in #2, then the coil is ok and you may have a bad spark plug or clogged or bad injector.


Edit: as for testing the fuel injectors: measure resistance. They all should be about the same, if #2 resistance is way different or has no continuity at all, it's bad.

BUT, the injector can also be clogged or the pintle stuck, with the wiring measuring normal values. You can test the injector by disconnecting and reconnecting the plug while the engine is idling. Each time you disconnect or reconnect, you should note the change in idle speed and vibration, etc.... if one injector doesn't seem to make much of a difference when you disconnect or connect it, it's not flowing enough or at all. This assumes the ignition parts have been checked and are good.

In some rare cases, there may be break in injector wiring or a pulse doesn't leave the computer. You can check the injector wire at the injector by backprobing or piercing the wire. One wire should have constant +12V while the other one gets pulsating ground contact from the computer.
 

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That's your call,but if you pay attention to the forums and facebook pages,it's not uncommon to hear of guys having injector issues.
Clue me into why maintaining your coils and injectors is a bad idea at a 100,000 miles,i'll wait for proof that it's a bad idea ;)
Other then the open weave sock on the pump basket,the only fuel filters on a Hemi are the screens inside the injectors,and i'm gonna guess back when you had vehicles with inline fuel filters you changed them occassionally,so why wouldn't you want to clean the screens inside the injectors
Good info there...(but you know I was referring to your remark about football and beer, right? Lol!)
 

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Is the rule of thumb in these days of OBD to wait for a coil misfire code to replace a coil, or do they all tend to age close together and fail within a fairly narrow mileage / calendar time window?
 

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The majority of injector cleaning video's use a 12 volt battery to trigger the injector,but the majority of time i'm cleaning them,hooking up to a 12 volt automotive battery is more of a pain then it is a gain,plus the little 9 volt set-up i use is totally portable,and i can take it anywhere.A decent little 9 volt will usually do 2 complete sets of injectors before it's to far down to trigger them,i don't charge anything to do a buddies injectors ,but i always tell them to grab a new 9 volt battery and their own can of carb/choke cleaner,and i usually leave with their battery,lol
we use chevron techron fuel system cleaner every 2000 or 3000 miles in all the rental motorhomes and good to go, people that rent them use the cheap ass gas they can find !! clean machaine and smooooth running units. goes good with a coors-light also.
 

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My bad,sorry about that.I thought you were referring to cleaning the injectors, my apologies :waytogo:
To be honest, the thought never occurred to me about cleaning the injectors, so I'm glad you're explaining the whole process, which actually looks to be much more simple than I would've thought.
 
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Is the rule of thumb in these days of OBD to wait for a coil misfire code to replace a coil, or do they all tend to age close together and fail within a fairly narrow mileage / calendar time window?
When's the last time you heard of an OEM coil going bad,lol. COP/coil on plug systems are usually pretty easy on the coils,and that shows in their life expectancy.It's usually corrosion on the springs inside the boots and the resistors and the contact points under the resistors that stops a coil from firing a plug.Odds are the coil windings are still okay and a good cleaning with new boots and springs will bring them back to life
 

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When's the last time you heard of an OEM coil going bad,lol. COP/coil on plug systems are usually pretty easy on the coils,and that shows in their life expectancy.It's usually corrosion on the springs inside the boots and the resistors and the contact points under the resistors that stops a coil from firing a plug.Odds are the coil windings are still okay and a good cleaning with new boots and springs will bring them back to life

Well, hell - I don't know so I asked! I haven't kept a vehicle beyond 100k miles in decades. That has all of a sudden changed, no?

And like you, I remember the olden days of parts swapping like mad to keep 'er running. I have no idea how much more reliable parts are today. Seriously. I did learn wires, hoses, belts, and plugs are much better. Remember having to change plugs every 12 k? jfc
 
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Well, hell - I don't know so I asked! I haven't kept a vehicle beyond 100k miles in decades. That has all of a sudden changed, no?

And like you, I remember the olden days of parts swapping like mad to keep 'er running. I have no idea how much more reliable parts are today. Seriously. I did learn wires, hoses, belts, and plugs are much better. Remember having to change plugs every 12 k? jfc
Even injectors don't give much trouble,and if they do,the majority of the issue is a plugged screen inside the injector,which you can either try to clean,or use a rebuild kit with new injector screens to replace a badly gunked up screen
 

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Even injectors don't give much trouble,and if they do,the majority of the issue is a plugged screen inside the injector,which you can either try to clean,or use a rebuild kit with new injector screens to replace a badly gunked up screen

I always wondered whatever happened to gas line filters of yore.
 

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we use chevron techron fuel system cleaner every 2000 or 3000 miles in all the rental motorhomes and good to go, people that rent them use the cheap ass gas they can find !! clean machine and smooooth running units. goes good with a coors-

when we pull the intake manifolds off for other said repair we can see the path of varnish and debris around the path of the injector spray. we noticed when we use the chevron techron every 2000 to 3000 miles its very clean with very little path of injector spray varnish. plus we notice when we scan vehicles on the fleet we can see the difference in fuel management with and without clean injectors, plus the fuel pump is running higher psi to push it through dirty injectors just like a dirty fuel filter. fun times.
 
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