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This was Burla having some fun on saturday, not some scientific proof of any result, so don't get all serious about it, but yet still found some interesting results, so I am sharing them. The reason for the test was yesterday when I took a pic of the color of lubegard, I noticed the stuff don't wash out, even if hot water and dawn. And even though my engine was butter smooth, I didn't think it could get smoother, when I dumped the Lubegard in it was even noticeable smoother, no joke. Water tested was about 5f under boiling, I have a hot water maker and that is what was used, so 200f+, too hot to put your hand in and about the temperature your engine operates at.
So pictures are worth a thousand words, I will post them. Basically at cold temp it appeared that MoS2 was the stickier product, but at high temp the Lubegard biotech was clearly more sticky. Now, MoS2 is going to plate with pressure (any moly will), which is what is needed in high pressure tick situations, but this is what you can expect at operating temps. My takeaways, M0S2 has much less risk than I previously thought, and there is something sticky with that Lubegard Biotech. Consider this, Lubegard is less viscosity the most oils, much less viscosity than redline 5w30 as shown, so how is it possible is sticks better at high temp? That should be impossible? If the very definition of viscosity is film strength under temperature, this should be impossible if we are just talking about base oils. And clearly the moly aint it either, so esters? You guess.
Products tested-
Stickiness at room temp on a glass, MoS2 clearly sticks better then all 4 choices.
Here's where it gets fun, notice additives versus oil after sitting in plus 200f water. First pic MoS2 and Biotech second pic 5w20 qsud versus 5w30 redline, the qsud mostly washed out with hot water when left to sit and drip the redline stuck noticeable better.
Left to drain the redline had survived the temperature better and was even still stuck on glass, at this point I stopped testing qsud it had mostly washed away or dripped out of glass.
The second heat soak 200f+ and dawn detergent added.
The Final results, Lubegard survived heat and heat soap tests the best, then Redline, and then MoS2. You can see napkin where the MoS2 was, and then the blue/green is your Lubegard biotech, and some Redline you can still see clinging after all of that on the right.
So pictures are worth a thousand words, I will post them. Basically at cold temp it appeared that MoS2 was the stickier product, but at high temp the Lubegard biotech was clearly more sticky. Now, MoS2 is going to plate with pressure (any moly will), which is what is needed in high pressure tick situations, but this is what you can expect at operating temps. My takeaways, M0S2 has much less risk than I previously thought, and there is something sticky with that Lubegard Biotech. Consider this, Lubegard is less viscosity the most oils, much less viscosity than redline 5w30 as shown, so how is it possible is sticks better at high temp? That should be impossible? If the very definition of viscosity is film strength under temperature, this should be impossible if we are just talking about base oils. And clearly the moly aint it either, so esters? You guess.
Products tested-
Stickiness at room temp on a glass, MoS2 clearly sticks better then all 4 choices.
Here's where it gets fun, notice additives versus oil after sitting in plus 200f water. First pic MoS2 and Biotech second pic 5w20 qsud versus 5w30 redline, the qsud mostly washed out with hot water when left to sit and drip the redline stuck noticeable better.
Left to drain the redline had survived the temperature better and was even still stuck on glass, at this point I stopped testing qsud it had mostly washed away or dripped out of glass.
The second heat soak 200f+ and dawn detergent added.
The Final results, Lubegard survived heat and heat soap tests the best, then Redline, and then MoS2. You can see napkin where the MoS2 was, and then the blue/green is your Lubegard biotech, and some Redline you can still see clinging after all of that on the right.