Oil Filter Thread

[HEMIMANN]

Anyone still order from here?
I'm all stocked so I haven't needed to order lately.

Royal Purple 4" Spin-on Oil Filter (20-820)

Whoa, make way - Royal Purple coming through! Royal Purple premium oil filters are a fan favorite and packed with all the high-performance features you want in an oil filter: superior filtration and flow, heavy duty construction, and extended filter life. It boasts 100 percentage synthetic...

www.myautoparts123.com

"Coming Soon"

 

[Curmudgeon]

Anyone still order from here?
I'm all stocked so I haven't needed to order lately.

Royal Purple 4" Spin-on Oil Filter (20-820)

Whoa, make way - Royal Purple coming through! Royal Purple premium oil filters are a fan favorite and packed with all the high-performance features you want in an oil filter: superior filtration and flow, heavy duty construction, and extended filter life. It boasts 100 percentage synthetic...

www.myautoparts123.com

Not lately but I have ordered twice from them and I'm pretty stocked-up on filters right now.

I thought they were awesome. Order processed and shipped typically within 24 hours and I received my order within 3-4 days. Not bad considering I'm in PA and they are in Waterford, Wisconsin.

I still have some of their RP 20-820 filters in my garage.

 

[Curmudgeon]

"Coming Soon"

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I don't know why but I have a RP 20-500 sitting in my "box 'O' filters. Stamped "product of USA".

Although it will fit my 5.7 I still have at least 7 of the RP 20-820 filters to use. Considering my average OCI is 10 months I figure I have a good 6 years worth. I'm 69 so I'll be 75 before I run out!

 

[RidgeRunner_167]

Mopar filters don't cut the mustard. Am I right?
Or do they work OK, but if you want better, you go aftermarket?

I have no problem with the MO-339. The ADBV is nitrile rubber as opposed to silicone. There have been rare reports of failed media. The louvers are always well machined. For what I pay off eBay, they are good filters for a 5k mi OCI, in my mere opinion.

 

[Dwell19]

Just bought 6 fram xg10060 for my 2019 classic. Should be ok for awhile

 

[HEMIMANN]

My quick buy for the Japanese engines. I could have bought more, but whatever. Some boxes were beat up but all contained labeled filters so maybe employees have been to check boxes before shipping.

 

[Burla]

My quick buy for the Japanese engines. I could have bought more, but whatever. Some boxes were beat up but all contained labeled filters so maybe employees have been to check boxes before shipping.

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I got to get some for the cross even though I am on the free oil changes another year, might not be around soon then what I still haven't heard what's next.

 

[HEMIMANN]

I got to get some for the cross even though I am on the free oil changes another year, might not be around soon then what I still haven't heard what's next.

Yes - idk where or how Walmart is pulling from stores - i.e., my "home store" is set to my closest store, but I don't know if these come off that store's shelves, or from their stock, or from a regional warehouse, or what.

 

[White six four]

I ordered 3 fe2's from Walmart last night and they were delivered this afternoon. So they had to have came from the store closest to me. Especially since they weren't boxed up for shipping. Just left at the front door in a Walmart plastic bag.

I'm due for my annual oil change in a few weeks. So I've got enough for the next 2 years. After that who knows with this race to the bottom world we live in.

 

[knightjp]

Due to mileage covered and the fact that I change my oil every 5000kms (approx 3106 miles), I have the change my oil and filter every 1.25 - 1.5 months.
If I'm using a FRAM oil filter, I change the filter every alternative oil change. Which means I would probably go through approx 7 - 8 filters in a year.
If I use Mopar filters, I change them on every oil change and that means about approx 10 - 11 filters in a year.

I don't mind the extra cost as long as I know the filters are doing their job.

 

[Burla]

Just to update, the last of the RP 20-820 clones is fe2 at Walmart and as of today you can buy 6 for 77 bucks shipped free. Fram reportedly still will make filters "they say", but who knows what lines and if this will be a part of it and they have real issues. This may be the last option for 20-820 like quality EVER.

At this point we should make a second fav list, wix xp? Puro buss? The puro boss have updated their center tube for flow, and seams to be more like the RP media then wix xp. They have a tear proof media, but I havent looked into the downsides of it. So is there any other filter we would put in syn media with these two that isn't a clone to them such as Napa platinum before picking a winner?

Who can update us on smart fusion media (puro boss) and how it is maintaining it's popularity? We know what wix is, it is a known quantity, a safe choice imo microns not included, but generally a safe choice I'd rather do wix xp then paper. I know some guys will go to blends, hopefully we can get some m1's cut open at 6 most and see if the media is stiff or pliable.

 

[corneileous]

From the research I’ve done, you really can beat the WIX 57060XP if you’re already using good quality engine oil and are changing it every 5000 to 6000 miles. It seems to me everything else that could be better than that is just overkill. But I know how some of you guys feel about that smaller oil filter and how in a lot of ways, I agree with you but far too many people aren’t running anywhere close to 10,000 mile oil change intervals. I’ve always had great UOA results running that oil filter with all the different engine oils I’ve used over the years ranging from 5W-20 Pennzoil ultra platinum, Amsoil signature series, Mobil 1 extended performance and Schaeffer’s supreme 9000.

 

[HEMIMANN]

Back to oiled toilet paper, I guess. Bring on the 1940's again.

 

[Burla]

reminder puro boss versus wix xp media... AC Delco there is paper so long term those wouldn't be the numbers,.

 

[HEMIMANN]

Yeah, the Project Farm guy got similar results except for the Purolator Boss which was a rock catcher akin to Wix, it confused me. So I've avoided Purolator in the meantime not thinking the world was coming to an end.

And - since then, Mann-Hummel bought Wix with purported quality going south. I guess who needs an engine oil filter anymore, eh? It didn't save the GM L87 engines! lol

 

[Burla]

Yeah, the Project Farm guy got similar results except for the Purolator Boss which was a rock catcher akin to Wix, it confused me. So I've avoided Purolator in the meantime not thinking the world was coming to an end.

And - since then, Mann-Hummel bought Wix with purported quality going south. I guess who needs an engine oil filter anymore, eh? It didn't save the GM L87 engines! lol

That graph is even close to being true shows how bad things are on the engine front, if I wasn't all nutted up I'd be buying enough fe2 to last the trucks life, they will store well in an inside closet. Future filters will likely not have the efficiency of those tops filters unless fram survives. You will have 15 micron particles all over the place and worst up to 50 plus with xp and at least 30 with puro boss, while those incredible filters will be gone. With champ labs closed permanently, who even knows if we will ever see a spun glass filters as efficient as the top two and their clones in that graph? Freak'n Jay Pan, quality is dead. Make a lot of money and buy a car every 50k miles, or your an idiot.

 

[HEMIMANN]

That graph is even close to being true shows how bad things are on the engine front, if I wasn't all nutted up I'd be buying enough fe2 to last the trucks life, they will store well in an inside closet. Future filters will likely not have the efficiency of those tops filters unless fram survives. You will have 15 micron particles all over the place and worst up to 50 plus with xp and at least 30 with puro boss, while those incredible filters will be gone. With champ labs closed permanently, who even knows if we will ever see a spun glass filters as efficient as the top two and their clones in that graph? Freak'n Jay Pan, quality is dead. Make a lot of money and buy a car every 50k miles, or your an idiot.

Sorta why I've been poking around Fleetguard, which it seems is still running in Mexico (they moved from Iowa to Mexico a little over 10 years ago), and Donaldson, of course - which seems to be one of the few well-managed companies left and manufacturing in USA.

And let's remind the members that most engine damage is caused by particles between 5-20 microns. Bigger is too big (and easily filterable), small is silt filtration needed for HPCR diesel fuel, not engine oil - these particles easily flow through moving machine elements and don't wear the surfaces. So the exact filtration we need is the exact filtration they're removing.

Perfect.

 

[HEMIMANN]

I had a brain fart & remembered @Travis8352 dug out some Fleetguard Oil Filter cross references last year from their horrendous website. We have a solution, I think -

https://www.fleetguard.com/product/LF17539

I remember discussing it - it is an unlabeled Stratapore wound microglass (they seem to quit pushing Stratopore in favor of their latest Nanonet wound polypropylene plastic string element).

It is equivalent to Royal Purple 20-500 & Fram XG/FE10575 midsize oil filters for Hemi engines. It shows it is still in production. Imma try to go git some....

OK - it's in production and for sale. Truck parts places have them, RDO in Minnesota or from Cummins direct, link below. Efficiency rating is 90% @ 21 microns. The real deal. Go get 'em!!

https://shop.cummins.com/SC/product/fleetguard-lube-filter-lf17539/01t4N0000048opvQAA?srsltid=AfmBOoo9DPDi_dm7tBOsh98QmXCj0uUo7qcJQJNbwVJrSf6UU-94AESf

 

[HEMIMANN]

Ok, the website I posted above works AFAIK - I ordered up 10 filters for $10.62 ea + state sales tax, if any. Free ship above $75 order.

This filter is app. 3/4" long than RP 20-500 / Fram 10575, I have room lengthwise to fit, but not larger diameter.

 

[Burla]

Sorta why I've been poking around Fleetguard, which it seems is still running in Mexico (they moved from Iowa to Mexico a little over 10 years ago), and Donaldson, of course - which seems to be one of the few well-managed companies left and manufacturing in USA.

And let's remind the members that most engine damage is caused by particles between 5-20 microns. Bigger is too big (and easily filterable), small is silt filtration needed for HPCR diesel fuel, not engine oil - these particles easily flow through moving machine elements and don't wear the surfaces. So the exact filtration we need is the exact filtration they're removing.

Perfect.

Do they have 100% spun glass or synthetic? paper just isn't the answer imo, to each their own on that one. Every extended paper filter I cut open 6- 12 months was stiff as a board with a hole or several in it. I don't even care if it is chinesium, so long as it is glass, for my preferences. How much of a paper filter's life is in permanent bypass? Never have to ask that one with glass. Forget about the micron meter in bypass, mise well not put a filter on it, good flow anyhow.