Please help a newbie

[rule18]

Engine braking is greater with the 6.4l engine. Why the 6.4l engine gets a 1000lb more GVWR and 1500lbs more GCWR.

It is also why the 4.10 gets a higher rating and why the Diesel gets an even higher rating.

That is how these numbers are figures out.

You are correct. Plenty if people just love to pull over their limits. And that is perfectly fine.

I am just giving facts and a chance for people to understand the ratings.

That Ford you mention. It is a very particular truck. And alot of people have fallen for that bait and switch too.

And as I said. If she comes back with the 6.4 she is real close. With the 5.7 it is over.

I would much prefer she understand this than find out one day going down a hill at speed.

The 5.7 also has a lighter front axle. When the weight shift happens...that can be a problem at over capacity.

But sure just bag it and head off into the sunset.

Her profile says 6.4 with 3.73...

 

[Sandevino]

Not to be that guy, but here goes...

Yes, your truck can tow 16,000 pounds, as in get it moving and get it up to speed. No, your truck can not STOP 16,000 pounds in a reasonable distance or amount of time, much less a panic stop.

Now that that is out of the way... on to the next order of business, can you LEGALLY operate a vehicle with a GCVWR over 26,000 pounds? I'd venture a guess not many of you can.

Pull out your wallet, locate your state issued drivers license and see what class of license you hold. If it is a Class C license, you are not legally permitted to operate any vehicle with a Gross Combined Vehicle Weight Rating over 26,000 pounds.

Your average 2500 has a GVWR of 10,000 pounds and most (not all) 3500's have a GVWR of 14,000 pounds. Add to that, a trailer with a GVWR of 16,000 pounds and you are at the limit of or over the limit of your license. You'll be rolling 26,000 or 30,000 pounds respectfully.

If you get in a wreck or worse, cause a wreck, you're in deep ****. Period.

I have a CDL and a Class A drivers license and have to sit through bi-annual training and certification to keep them current. The topic of over-weight and under / improperly licensed operation of a vehicle, truck or trailer is ALWAYS covered.

Have fun...

 

[rule18]

Not to be that guy, but here goes...

Yes, your truck can tow 16,000 pounds, as in get it moving and get it up to speed. No, your truck can not STOP 16,000 pounds in a reasonable distance or amount of time, much less a panic stop.

Now that that is out of the way... on to the next order of business, can you LEGALLY operate a vehicle with a GCVWR over 26,000 pounds? I'd venture a guess not many of you can.

Pull out your wallet, locate your state issued drivers license and see what class of license you hold. If it is a Class C license, you are not legally permitted to operate any vehicle with a Gross Combined Vehicle Weight Rating over 26,000 pounds.

Your average 2500 has a GVWR of 10,000 pounds and most (not all) 3500's have a GVWR of 14,000 pounds. Add to that, a trailer with a GVWR of 16,000 pounds and you are at the limit of or over the limit of your license. You'll be rolling 26,000 or 30,000 pounds respectfully.

If you get in a wreck or worse, cause a wreck, you're in deep ****. Period.

I have a CDL and a Class A drivers license and have to sit through bi-annual training and certification to keep them current. The topic of over-weight and under / improperly licensed operation of a vehicle, truck or trailer is ALWAYS covered.

Have fun...

Not to hijack, but I'm a CDL A as well, nobody ever (or very rarely) brings this up, good on you...

 

[Bldrinker]

I see more ****y drivers with CDL’s than I do good ones.

It’s very easy to get a CDL, I once held one. It’s not a big deal.

 

[rule18]

I see more ****y drivers with CDL’s than I do good ones.

It’s very easy to get a CDL, I once held one. It’s not a big deal.

What class CDL did you hold? And how did you lose it?

 

[Bldrinker]

What class CDL did you hold? And how did you lose it?

Class A, with HazMat, Tanker, doubles and obviously air brake endorsements.

What makes you think I lost it?

 

[rule18]

For starters, because you came on and immediately began trolling. Any driver that glibly says things like, "it's easy" as if anyone could just get in and operate safely is pretty suspect. Air brakes are part of my license w/o special endorsement.

I don't know many A drivers that would willingly give it up.

 

[mtofell]

Where does OP say he/she has a 5.7 Hemi (therefore, 9K GVWR)??? - Profile says 6.4 Hemi.

It likely doesn't make much difference but it is a curious assumption.

OP truck likely has payload rating around 2900#. 15K 5th wheel while staying anywhere close to the ratings? Not going to happen.

OP has 1 post and has never come back..... 3 pages of clicking and debating. If I didn't know better I'd suspect message board owners of, "drumming up business".

 

[rule18]

Where does OP say he/she has a 5.7 Hemi (therefore, 9K GVWR)???

She doesn't, 6.4 is in the profile.

 

[392DevilDog]

She originally didnt have that


She claims a Laramie. It will have about 2300 payload.

My truck is the same thing except tradesman 2998 payload for me.

The 6.4 with 3.73 is rated 12600...that is a tradesman with 300lbs in the truck. Her rating would be about 12k even. With just 300lbs in the truck
The 5th wheel would actually bring this number down. Heavier hitch more tongue weight.

But people tow 15k 5th wheels everyday with 1500 limited trucks.

Just trying to give her the correct numbers.

She can then decide to tow over ratings...the truck can manhandle it and it is fine to squat. Just load it up and go.

 

[mtofell]

She claims a Laramie. It will have about 2300 payload.

With the 2500 truck's 10K GVWR 2300# would likely be with diesel. My Hemi Outdoorsman has 3040# payload. Laramie has another hundred pounds or so of "bling" so probably around 2900# payload

 

[392DevilDog]

With the 2500 truck's 10K GVWR 2300# would likely be with diesel. My Hemi Outdoorsman has 3040# payload. Laramie has another hundred pounds or so of "bling" so probably around 2900# payload

You got a real good payload number.

I have a longbed...so I lose a bit of payload.

Mine is 2998. It is a tradesman. Only option is trailer mirrors and protection group.

So...my guess may go up some. As an outdoorsman is a pretty loaded truck too. Maybe my long bed loses more payload than I thought.

So chart base weight for my truck is 6891. My trucks actual base weight is 7002. So those 2 options remove 111 lbs.

A diesel my configuration is 7810. So the diesel weighs 919lbs more for anyone interested. And the highest payload being 2190. Making more sense with my 2300lb payload guess. But now for a shortbed.

So the shortbed chart base weight is 6718 so a longbed weighs 173 lbs more.

Okay. I adjust my guess to 2473 for her payload lol.

Still find 3040 a great payload number for an outdoorsman.