Synthetic Oil

[Burla]

Chlorine has done wonders for our population, well except for the breast cancer rates. Not really sure how technology that makes stuff break sooner is responsible for the planet, but hey feelings are much better then facts on that 1.

Just have to love the argument for making all engines di turbo.

The heavier car gets more MPG plus less particulates matter, but hey the gov't wants clean air?

Honda CR-V di turbo - 34mpg hwy and curb weight 3337
Rav 4 non turbo 35mpg and curb weight 3490

If we want better water and air, end having a gov't would be a better strategy? Certainly have them divest themselves in this area would be a good start. But they master the fake caring message so they do have the most fan boys compared to the science that says they are a miserable fail.

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[Grams]

Chlorine has done wonders for our population, well except for the breast cancer rates. Not really sure how technology that makes stuff break sooner is responsible for the planet, but hey feelings are much better then facts on that 1.

Just have to love the argument for making all engines di turbo.

The heavier car gets more MPG plus less particulates matter, but hey the gov't wants clean air?

Honda CR-V di turbo - 34mpg hwy and curb weight 3337
Rav 4 non turbo 35mpg and curb weight 3490

If we want better water and air, end having a gov't would be a better strategy? Certainly have them divest themselves in this area would be a good start. But they master the fake caring message so they do have the most fan boys compared to the science that says they are a miserable fail.

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I’m not talking about chlorine. (In fact, I’m on a private well with zero treatments.) And my well water is good because MTBE is no longer used in gasoline.

@Hemiman I know about ethanol fuels. And you don’t know me… You only think you do. Hold your temper and be courteous…. to do otherwise makes you look bad.

 

[Burla]

I’m not talking about chlorine. (In fact, I’m on a private well with zero treatments.) And my well water is good because MTBE is no longer used in gasoline.

@Hemiman I know about ethanol fuels. And you don’t know me… You only think you do. Hold your temper and be courteous…. to do otherwise makes you look bad.

I'm not sure you are firing on all cylinders, mtbe was put their by the gov't for wait for it... clean air standards.

 

[Grams]

Correct. I’m old enough to remember when you couldn’t see the bldgs downtown because of the air pollution. When MTBE was found to contaminate ground-water…. another band-aid (which admittedly corn-farmers like) is ethanol. We have a choice…put up with troublesome maintenance or choke to death.
It may seem popular to blame the gov’t for everything to look kool in front of your friends… but it would be impossible to make your neighbor quit choking you to death with his pollution without consensus of gov’t.

 

[HEMIMANN]

I’m not talking about chlorine. (In fact, I’m on a private well with zero treatments.) And my well water is good because MTBE is no longer used in gasoline.

@Hemiman I know about ethanol fuels. And you don’t know me… You only think you do. Hold your temper and be courteous…. to do otherwise makes you look bad.

Do you know me?
Fairly arrogant of you.

 

[HEMIMANN]

Anyone switched to 87 octane?

What kind of carb failures were you seeing? Moisture relate? Seals? Just curious. Elastomers hardening and cracking, lost sealing, in some cases disolving, varnishing that couldn't be cleaned. My memory fails - we shipped 80,000 gasoline generators per year, 20,000 diesel generators. At...

www.ramforum.com

Ok, self-appointed fuel experts. Here's some data for ya why ethanol is a taxpayer welfare program for rich agribusiness. They don't even get into the detrimental storage capability or the fact that corn doesn't grow year round (unlike say, conifer trees), or that it's also a food source. It's ridiculous.

Study by University of Wisconsin-Madison, my alma mater, known for agriculture and engine combustion engineering. I graduated in Mechanical Engineering.

America Was Wrong About Ethanol - Study Shows​

Using Corn For Fuel Seems Like A Dumb Idea In Light Of New ResearchSubscribe to Engineering Explained for more videos! - https://goo.gl/VZstk7Recommended Boo...
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[Burla]

He starts off first 1/4 of the video talking about the carbon issue, which is not any reason of concern no matter how many times we hear it is. There is zero correlation between carbon and earths temperature, we are not even close to average co2 levels since the birth of our planet. However long we have with peak gas matters none. Peak co2 was 7k ppm, average co2 was 3500ppm, low co2 was 300ppm, we are at 400pp currently. Cant we as a society just say everything is ok lets have a conversation when and if carbon ever hits 1/3 of average co2 which would be 1,000 ppm? Every drop of oil will be long gone before man made carbon levels hit 1,000ppm. Cant we wait until a single city goes under water before we keep hearing the lie about raising ocean levels? They say oceans have risen 3 millimeters in decade, and that it is our fault of course, within a 4 millimeter margin of error.

We have long solved orange city syndrome despite about a 2,000 % increase of cars on the road. Cant we wait until we even have 1/4 of orange tint on the skyline before we up end society to solve this non issue? If you look at the population and pollution levels in La see graph, it's just utterly ridiculous to even remotely think there is a danger or issue here.





For reference..
A "peak ozone level" refers to the highest concentration of ozone molecules present in the air at a given time or location, typically occurring during the hottest part of the day when sunlight is most intense, and often considered a measure of air pollution when the level exceeds safe standards; essentially, it's the point where ozone concentration reaches its maximum in a specific period.

It ain't the 50's or the 70's when people like myself saw orange city when mom took us to Disney, despite a huge population growth. There is no such thing as made man pollution in the USA like there was during the industrial age. The problem has been 100% solved. None of this conversation has anything to do with pollution, we are way past that. But recently it has been revealed why we have heard about this so much has it not? Seams like the easiest way to a slush fund is to keep up the mis information campaign?


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[HEMIMANN]

I'm confused- the study shows corn for fuel is absurd.

They also know CO2 has risen greatly and is correlated with avg temp increase. Ozone is down because NOx has been near eliminated from exhausts including coal burners with SCR scrubbers.

Ethanol is an industry lobby mandate. It isn't cleaner. It reduces fuel mileage. It forms formaldehyde in exhaust. It requires fossil fuels to convert corn starch to sugar, sucking huge amounts of groundwater to do so. It results in tremendous spent grain waste. The entire industry is a money pit grift.
Corn is for food and booze. End of story.

 

[Grams]

Do you know me?
Fairly arrogant of you.

No I don’t know you. That’s why I didn’t insult You First.

 

[Wild one]

What's your guys thoughts on Super Tech's full synthetic 5W-30.Only asking as my local Wally World has it on sale for $7.00 less then PUP 5W-30.Redline is getting stupidly expensive so i'm kind of looking at alternative oils ,i'd be throwing a bottle of Lube Gard in with it,if it's a viable oil.
$29.00 for 5L of it,is a great price for us Canucks

 

[Burla]

What's your guys thoughts on Super Tech's full synthetic 5W-30.Only asking as my local Wally World has it on sale for $7.00 less then PUP 5W-30.Redline is getting stupidly expensive so i'm kind of looking at alternative oils ,i'd be throwing a bottle of Lube Gard in with it,if it's a viable oil.
$29.00 for 5L of it,is a great price for us Canucks

Dexos, which means as good as you can expect from API certs oil. I would get synthetic, there like 3 kinds, if I remember the advanced wasn't worth the extra bucks. I would run it for up to 5k miles.

 

[Wild one]

Dexos, which means as good as you can expect from API certs oil. I would get synthetic, there like 3 kinds, if I remember the advanced wasn't worth the extra bucks. I would run it for up to 5k miles.

This is the one they have on sale Mike,would you consider it a viable oil for the hemi.I trust your opinion,as you've forgot more about oils then i'll ever know Which would you run Supertech at $29.00 for 5L or PUP at $36.00 for the same 5L jug

Verify Your Identity

 

[Burla]

This is the one they have on sale Mike,would you consider it a viable oil for the hemi.I trust your opinion,as you've forgot more about oils then i'll ever know Which would you run Supertech at $29.00 for 5L or PUP at $36.00 for the same 5L jug

Verify Your Identity

Very interesting because famously Pennzoil avoids dexos rating on this oil. But it is Pennzoils best and I lean towards PUP 5w30 at a buck fifty a quart more. What's the engine though?

 

[Hemi395]

What's your guys thoughts on Super Tech's full synthetic 5W-30.Only asking as my local Wally World has it on sale for $7.00 less then PUP 5W-30.Redline is getting stupidly expensive so i'm kind of looking at alternative oils ,i'd be throwing a bottle of Lube Gard in with it,if it's a viable oil.
$29.00 for 5L of it,is a great price for us Canucks

What does Valvoline go for around there? Here its not Supertech cheap but its the best bang for the buck for off the shelf oil with relatively high moly...

If my truck wasn't an oil snob I could do a Valvoline oil change on it for around $40

 

[Burla]

You can see how Pennzoil generally compares PUP to their other stuff.

Their in house sequence testing which may be an atsm for all I know, has PUP above their lineup in cleanliness and wear. It has a rep for cleanliness from when it was just ultra, lots of examples of dyi proof on that BITOG. I haven't seen a voa or uoa lately, not sure the lowered CA? If di turbo stick with dexos, if most other vehicles I like PUP, but also simple 4 bangers maybe just using cheap dexos is all you ever need. V8 I like PUP, especially if we are talking hemi.

 

[Burla]

What does Valvoline go for around there? Here its not Supertech cheap but its the best bang for the buck for off the shelf oil with relatively high moly...

If my truck wasn't an oil snob I could do a Valvoline oil change on it for around $40

Their extended protection has been known for giving oil guys a *****, near 400ppm moly and huge boron as well. We should have discussed this oil more, best shelf oil ever?

Of note avoid their euro formula. next to zip moly.

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[HEMIMANN]

@Wild one don't forget to spike it with LubeGard. I doubt WallyTech has much moly.

 

[HEMIMANN]

You can see how Pennzoil generally compares PUP to their other stuff.

Their in house sequence testing which may be an atsm for all I know, has PUP above their lineup in cleanliness and wear. It has a rep for cleanliness from when it was just ultra, lots of examples of dyi proof on that BITOG. I haven't seen a voa or uoa lately, not sure the lowered CA? If di turbo stick with dexos, if most other vehicles I like PUP, but also simple 4 bangers maybe just using cheap dexos is all you ever need. V8 I like PUP, especially if we are talking hemi.

I will get us a UOA & VOA in a couple months. PUP 5W-30 in a turbo GDI w h i z motor.
Speed Diagnosix is awefully pricey. Blackstone quality is suspect. Maybe I use Amsoil's OA?

 

[Burla]

valvoline extended protection 400ppm/165ppm boron 28 smokes 5 qrt, move over redline/hpl?

 

[Burla]

I will get us a UOA & VOA in a couple months. PUP 5W-30 in a turbo GDI w h i z motor.
Speed Diagnosix is awefully pricey. Blackstone quality is suspect. Maybe I use Amsoil's OA?

that should be interesting