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Valvoline claims "Restore & Protect returns pistons to factory clean by removing up to 100% of deposits when used as directed," so a Ford EcoBoost engine ran...

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[Travis8352]

Lake did a live on gasoline and additives to on saturday with chip hewette. Was happy to see that each gas brand is unique which i was always told by people involved in fuel sales have told me, but also everyone and their mother also telling me "its all the same buy the cheapest". Mobil synergy supreme+ (mobils premium) had the least wear followed by mobil regular and shell vpower nitro premium. Murphy regular and premium came next with chevron last. Nice to see they are unique. Id like to know who truly has the most or best detergent and cleaning power

 

[HEMIMANN]

Lake did a live on gasoline and additives to on saturday with chip hewette. Was happy to see that each gas brand is unique which i was always told by people involved in fuel sales have told me, but also everyone and their mother also telling me "its all the same buy the cheapest". Mobil synergy supreme+ (mobils premium) had the least wear followed by mobil regular and shell vpower nitro premium. Murphy regular and premium came next with chevron last. Nice to see they are unique. Id like to know who truly has the most or best detergent and cleaning power

So glad Mobil pulled out of flyover country here.

Think about that - they'd rather supply massive quantities of fuel to da U.P. instead of 3.5 million people in the Twin Cities because its "too far away" from the refinery.

And to think Mobil used to have a tank farm and lube blending plant in St. Paul. But profit margin % wasn't high enough for execs so they closed it all down. Never mind the fact it was still profitable. We can't get good fuel here. So I travel with bottle of Red Line Pl-1 PEA detergent additive.

 

[Curmudgeon]

Lake did a live on gasoline and additives to on saturday with chip hewette. Was happy to see that each gas brand is unique which i was always told by people involved in fuel sales have told me, but also everyone and their mother also telling me "its all the same buy the cheapest". Mobil synergy supreme+ (mobils premium) had the least wear followed by mobil regular and shell vpower nitro premium. Murphy regular and premium came next with chevron last. Nice to see they are unique. Id like to know who truly has the most or best detergent and cleaning power

Is this it in Post #2...

https://www.ramforum.com/threads/fuels-additives-and-everything-related.225562/#post-3093975

 

[Travis8352]

So glad Mobil pulled out of flyover country here.

Think about that - they'd rather supply massive quantities of fuel to da U.P. instead of 3.5 million people in the Twin Cities because its "too far away" from the refinery.

And to think Mobil used to have a tank farm and lube blending plant in St. Paul. But profit margin % wasn't high enough for execs so they closed it all down. Never mind the fact it was still profitable. We can't get good fuel here. So I travel with bottle of Red Line Pl-1 PEA detergent additive.

I got a bottle of SI-1 for the same reason or atleast when traveling. I started using mobil premium in the durango

 

[Travis8352]

Is this it in Post #2...

https://www.ramforum.com/threads/fuels-additives-and-everything-related.225562/#post-3093975

Yes!

 

[HEMIMANN]

I got a bottle of SI-1 for the same reason or atleast when traveling. I started using mobil premium in the durango

Point is - Mobil didn't pull out of desolate U.P., but did out of Twin Cities. These corporate guys make me sick.

 

[Yardbird]

Point is - Mobil didn't pull out of desolate U.P., but did out of Twin Cities. These corporate guys make me sick.

Maybe they left because of taxes and over regulation.

Taxes, regulation, and wages, seem to be the reasons most corporations leave.

I know nothing about them leaving, but I have been following how many industries have moved down south and to the lower Midwest to escape such things.

 

[Docwagon1776]

Maybe they left because of taxes and over regulation.

Taxes, regulation, and wages, seem to be the reasons most corporations leave.

I know nothing about them leaving, but I have been following how many industries have moved down south and to the lower Midwest to escape such things.

Not the first time they've pulled back their footprint in the midwest, especially on the retail front, been happening since at least the 1980s. I don't know nothing about nothing and don't care enough to research it but I'd ask how much competition there is in the UP vs the Twin Cities. Number of potential customers is only one metric.

 

[HEMIMANN]

Ahhhhh........ got 4 gallons of Mobil 1 Turbodiesel Truck Motor Oil today. With my existing inventory that will be 3 year's worth. If availability is still gone by then, it's time to get off this planet.

 

[HEMIMANN]

Not the first time they've pulled back their footprint in the midwest, especially on the retail front, been happening since at least the 1980s. I don't know nothing about nothing and don't care enough to research it but I'd ask how much competition there is in the UP vs the Twin Cities. Number of potential customers is only one metric.

As I said, they pulled out because it was "too far" from the end of their pipe network for maximum profit %.

 

[Yardbird]

I despise today's corporations. I'm trying to buy products to re-do a ceiling and other interior projects.

I bought this house 23 years ago and did a top to bottom remodel. Some things are needing revamping again.

The lack of quality and choice is sickening, and at prices that are nothing short of robbery. Here you have two choices, Lowes or Home Depot.

The house before this I added onto and totally remodeled. Full choices of any product I wanted with great quality and good prices, all supplied from the locally owned and operated building center.

Same thing for the house before that one, with supplies from the same local building center.

The house I'm trying to update now was built in 1978 with all supplies from that same lumber company, now closed down because of discount (cheap crap) home centers and the deaths of the original owners.

No one wanted to take over because of the undercutting by the big boys, until all the competition was gone. Now we are stuck with them and their junk.

 

[Docwagon1776]

As I said, they pulled out because it was "too far" from the end of their pipe network for maximum profit %.

I understand that. Their pipe network used to run over a lot more of the midwest, even more so if you count both Mobil and Exxon as one entity before they actually merged. There's an underlying reason their pipe network now ends where it ends and why it was profitable to shrink their footprint and stop serving your area. They are actively shuttering facilities globally right now, and a lot is based on local politics and local markets.

Minnesota suing them probably had something to do with the decision in this instance.

What does the lawsuit ask for?

The complaint demands that the defendants stop making stop making deceptive statements about climate change, disclose all climate change related research, and fund a corrective public education campaign for Minnesotans about the true effects of climate change. It also demands extensive payments from defendants, including penalties for each deceptive statement made to consumers, damages for the climate change effects already occurring in the state, and repayment of all profits earned by defendants because of their deceptive statements.



And, the lawsuit gives the Attorney General the power to demand broad disclosures of now-secret documents about what the defendants knew about climate change.



Notably, the lawsuit does not ask for a specific amount of damages, but Ellison has stated in the media that damages could be in the same range as Minnesota’s $7 billion settlement with the tobacco industry in 1998.

They've been fighting since 2020 but the motion to dismiss was turned down by the state supreme court earlier this year. I'd leave as well, especially if profit margins are thin due to competition.

 

[HEMIMANN]

I understand that. Their pipe network used to run over a lot more of the midwest, even more so if you count both Mobil and Exxon as one entity before they actually merged. There's an underlying reason their pipe network now ends where it ends and why it was profitable to shrink their footprint and stop serving your area. They are actively shuttering facilities globally right now, and a lot is based on local politics and local markets.

Minnesota suing them probably had something to do with the decision in this instance.



They've been fighting since 2020 but the motion to dismiss was turned down by the state supreme court earlier this year. I'd leave as well, especially if profit margins are thin due to competition.

I wouldn't be bothered by it if we weren't served by schlock fuels only. Kwik Trip took over much of the market, and when they dropped Top Tier it was a huge blow. Some Canadian firm (Circle K) took over the Erickson family company (Holiday) and dropped Top Tier. I guess that means Twin Cities drivers are cheap and dumb.

 

[tjfdesmo]

I despise today's corporations. I'm trying to buy products to re-do a ceiling and other interior projects.

I bought this house 23 years ago and did a top to bottom remodel. Some things are needing revamping again.

The lack of quality and choice is sickening, and at prices that are nothing short of robbery. Here you have two choices, Lowes or Home Depot.

The house before this I added onto and totally remodeled. Full choices of any product I wanted with great quality and good prices, all supplied from the locally owned and operated building center.

Same thing for the house before that one, with supplies from the same local building center.

The house I'm trying to update now was built in 1978 with all supplies from that same lumber company, now closed down because of discount (cheap crap) home centers and the deaths of the original owners.

No one wanted to take over because of the undercutting by the big boys, until all the competition was gone. Now we are stuck with them and their junk.

I grew up in a family lumber yard/hardware, etc operation my Dad started in 1953. The advent of the big boxes turned suppliers, distributors, and manufacturers into nothing but two-bit wh*ores, and destroyed an industry.

 

[Docwagon1776]

I wouldn't be bothered by it if we weren't served by schlock fuels only. Kwik Trip took over much of the market, and when they dropped Top Tier it was a huge blow. Some Canadian firm (Circle K) took over the Erickson family company (Holiday) and dropped Top Tier. I guess that means Twin Cities drivers are cheap and dumb.

Looks like BP and Shell, among others, still carry top tier in Minneapolis. Costco if you're a member. No idea how convenient they are for you but location finder here: https://stationfinder.toptiergas.com/

I usually use Shell or Sunoco. Or Buc-ee's on a road trip because it's Buc-ee's

 

[Yardbird]

I grew up in a family lumber yard/hardware, etc operation my Dad started in 1953. The advent of the big boxes turned suppliers, distributors, and manufacturers into nothing but two-bit wh*ores, and destroyed an industry.

Been there, done that...The box stores would use the independents to try out new products, and if they sold well, would stock their shelves with said product selling for pennies over our cost.

Great Stuff was one. We pushed that stuff, and it started selling great. Soon Home Depot had it on an end cap for 5 cents above out cost.

We were also a Glidden paint dealer. It was a great product in those days. Suddenly K-Mart was carrying Spread Satin retailing for one, yes, one cent above out cost direct from Glidden, 40 case minimum order.

You can only sell so many products at a loss for so long. I had taken over by that time, and we did everything to compete, and it worked for around a decade. Lowes, Home Depot, Wal Mart, which had decided to get into hardware also, all contributed to the decline.

One area I branched out into worked well, so I transitioned into that until it ran its course, thanks largely to the government.

 

[Burla]

Helping out a fellow member today, ran into this, wow on the data base for 5w40/15w40 ck4 oils voa

As much as I love HPL, I wouldnt want that with a dpf, not low saps.

 

[HEMIMANN]

Looks like BP and Shell, among others, still carry top tier in Minneapolis. Costco if you're a member. No idea how convenient they are for you but location finder here: https://stationfinder.toptiergas.com/

I usually use Shell or Sunoco. Or Buc-ee's on a road trip because it's Buc-ee's

BP does not. Renounced Top Tier about the same time as the others, pandemic. They CLAIM they do. ha ha

Shell only has a couple of stations left, here and there.

Cenex is located only out on the interstates.

 

[HEMIMANN]

Been there, done that...The box stores would use the independents to try out new products, and if they sold well, would stock their shelves with said product selling for pennies over our cost.

Great Stuff was one. We pushed that stuff, and it started selling great. Soon Home Depot had it on an end cap for 5 cents above out cost.

We were also a Glidden paint dealer. It was a great product in those days. Suddenly K-Mart was carrying Spread Satin retailing for one, yes, one cent above out cost direct from Glidden, 40 case minimum order.

You can only sell so many products at a loss for so long. I had taken over by that time, and we did everything to compete, and it worked for around a decade. Lowes, Home Depot, Wal Mart, which had decided to get into hardware also, all contributed to the decline.

One area I branched out into worked well, so I transitioned into that until it ran its course, thanks largely to the government.

Remember when John Deere did their "New Coke" mistake? "Sabre by Deere" quasi-tractors sold only @ the Home Despot?