Synthetic Oil

[Docwagon1776]

BP does not. Renounced Top Tier about the same time as the others, pandemic. They CLAIM they do. ha ha

Shell only has a couple of stations left, here and there.

Cenex is located only out on the interstates.

Did BP not go back to top tier? I know they dropped the requirements for awhile.

 

[tjfdesmo]

Remember when John Deere did their "New Coke" mistake? "Sabre by Deere" quasi-tractors sold only @ the Home Despot?

Indeed I do, because I was a Deere dealer. They did the Scott's label BS, too. I have zero respect for what that company turned into.

 

[jc56berg]

Watched this entire video and I am feeling really informed!!

Great post & thanks for sharing!

Ethanol in fuel is like adding tobacco to your weed,,, it sucks.. and now they want to put even more (ethanol) tobacco in our (fuel) weed!!!!!!!

I don't want any additives my weed, uh.... I mean gas.

 

[crackerjack1957]

Did BP not go back to top tier? I know they dropped the requirements for awhile.

TOP TIER™ Announces New TOP TIER™+ Standard - TOP TIER™ https://share.google/m35z1xvfncl4Ahz3k

 

[Motoman501]

TOP TIER™ Announces New TOP TIER™+ Standard - TOP TIER™

I noticed the pumps at my Costco are now labeled Top Tier+

 

[Travis8352]

BP is back to top tier+

 

[Travis8352]

Helping out a fellow member today, ran into this, wow on the data base for 5w40/15w40 ck4 oils voa

As much as I love HPL, I wouldnt want that with a dpf, not low saps.

Im with you there. Also 10,000ppm sulfur on VOAs for their ck-4 HDEO. I dont understand it honestly, its above my knowledge

 

[Burla]

Ask yourself this, why would the EPA (not only current but historical) allow low quality gas when literally 90% of modern cars absolutely need this for long term operation? Wouldn't that create less emissions with clean combustion chambers and valves? Yet even here on nor cal we have cheapy gas stations next to top tier that sell their nasty juice 40-60 cents per gallon less. If it was truly about the environment don't ya think this would be job one? They build stuff that needs high quality fuel and specialized oil formulations, and you leave this as an option? Jay Pan?

Rather funny, Japan has maybe the highest quality gas then any country, why? Because they already solved the problem with the public driving their cars forever and not buying new ones, lol. But since that "problem" hasn't been solved here yet, would allowing crappy gas to be sold be another way to get the public to buy new cars? you think ethanol mandates also help making new cars last as long? Yeah, Japan doesn't allow crappy gas or our ethanol %'s. Japan did a fuel study because this doesn't happen in Japan. At the end some guy recommends redline si-1 buy dumping it in tank, not by name, lol.

Japanese Mechanics TESTED Major Gas Stations and One HIDDEN Finding Is DESTROYING Engines Nationwide

Not all gas stations are created equal. Some are destroying your engine one tank at a time, and you have no idea it's happening. Last year, a group of Japane...

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[Docwagon1776]

Ask yourself this, why would the EPA (not only current but historical) allow low quality gas when literally 90% of modern cars absolutely need this for long term operation? [/URL]

The EPA said decades ago that premium fuel only would result in both less emissions and better fuel economy, if all vehicles were designed around it and it alone. But all vehicles aren't, and rules haven't changed to reflect the direct injection designs and concerns with no maintenance to keep coking down.

Even "low quality" gas in the US is pretty good gas.

 

[Burla]

Compared to what? It isn't good gas compared to Japan. Not sure that even hemis that aren't di wouldnt have less emissions if we used top tier + over crappy gas. It benefits anything on the road as far as emissions long term. Not even considering the emissions it takes to build new cars, just in normal operation. I don't like mandates but good fuel and good oil is a good place to start.

 

[HEMIMANN]

TOP TIER™ Announces New TOP TIER™+ Standard - TOP TIER™ https://share.google/m35z1xvfncl4Ahz3k

Oh, FFS! They (BP) wouldn't even do Top Tier. How did you find out about new +? We are indebted.

My take: BP sales were suffering as they never recovered after buying Amoco (which used to be a top notch supplier) and blowing the Gulf well. In fact, they recently have started re-branding some of their stations Amoco to attempt to lure new buyers that don't remember any of that. I will never forget their top twit lamenting how his life was interrupted by his company's cheap operations, and he still went to attend his yacht races. That really pissed people off. He was removed.

Wait - why is this in synthetic oil? Imma cross-post in the new fuels and additives thread.

 

[HEMIMANN]

Ok, back to lube oils - I ordered up a case of Aisin Transmission Oil for Mazda (their spec FZ, whatever that means) for the 2nd Mazda CX-5 here, from Summit.

As always, Summit shipped right away. Fedup Distress picked it up. It sat a their Dallas, TX warehouse for over a week without update, or response to requested update. Or someone stole it or they lost it. They ain't saying.

It suddenly appeared on the doorstep, in the rain (there is a dry area under the soffits), turned sideways with a marking clearly showing it is to be placed upright.

Fedup Distress

 

[Curmudgeon]

My guess?
BP is still paying for the Deepwater Horizon horror?

 

[Yardbird]

Remember when John Deere did their "New Coke" mistake? "Sabre by Deere" quasi-tractors sold only @ the Home Despot?

Yes I do. I also remember when Snapper was a top homeowner brand, as we were a Snapper dealer for many years, and I ran the shop at that time. Cub Cadet was at one time the best yard tractor you could by, until they went to Lowes....

Huskvarna was big daddy once also, until they went to Lowes. Stihl is still good, but not near as good as before.

The downfall of all these brands was the catering to chain stores over mom and pop independent sales and on site repair shops.

The big boys were doing all they could to run mom and pop out of business, so they wanted lower power equipment prices.

Then, Whamo, same name equipment, much lesser quality.

Snapper didn't keep up with the changing times. Their attempt at a front engine rider was OK, but not great for the price they wanted. Their lower priced weed trimmers were a joke. OMC engines that Lawn Boy used on their trimmers. Rod throwers.

I refused to order any trimmers from Snapper. They had a cast rod instead of a laminated steel one like Lawn Boy. It didn't work. They all blew up.

Snapper had a higher end trimmer with a Mitsubishi engine that was great, but way over priced.

Huskvarna had the same Mitsubishi engine when they first started in weed trimmers, then soon went south on their quality also.

Today's car manus are doing the same with quality. Flashy looks and features to sell, quality be danged.

As the saying goes, make it to sell, not use.

 

[Yardbird]

The price of gas at election time is tied directly to votes. No one running for re-election wants high gas prices. Do what is necessary to get the price down, even if it means lowering standards.

Career politicians only care about gas prices when election time comes around. They are mostly rich, and buy big new cars every year or so. If the cheap gas hurts engines, they won't keep a vehicle long enough to know or care.

 

[Curmudgeon]

To camp on to @Yardbird post above, I recently bought a gently used
Ariens snowblower made/sold in 2014. It looks awesome but I haven't
used it yet, just going through to check critical parts and do a little home-garage maintenance.

One can go back to a time when all their engines were Tecumseh, then Briggs after Tecumseh went out of business. Now all their engines are labeled "AX" which is used by Chinese LCT (Liquid combustion Technologies). Mine says "AX 369cc", roughly 12hp. I'll see.

My old Sears had a Tecumseh 5hp and it ran well for a little over 45 years.

 

[Burla]

My guess?
BP is still paying for the Deepwater Horizon horror?

They will be done paying for that in 2033.

 

[Travis8352]

BP is in bad shape. They sold 60% of castrol to private equity so they can pay down debt. Their new CEO was an exxon exec to i believe. I think all this trouble stems from deepwater horizon. Ill check the numbers but i believe since it happened it has cost BP close to 1 trillion dollars

 

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Can we get back on topic?

 

[Burla]

Big oil works on an 6-8% margin historically. So bottom line there is no ability to pay a trillion dollars, even if that was a fine for all of big oil. Last years profit per industry big oil = oil/gas integrated 8.3% profit margin 2025. The gov't is usually smart on the fines, they are very careful to not fine so much the company just goes away, politically that is suicide tanking companies unless they released nuclear ash. Each company big oil makes between 30bil and 10bil a year, and there is only 4 of them. And each companies output is like 200 billion, so 200 billion to make 20 billion, there surely is easier ways to make money. If I had 200 bill, the last thing I would do is produce oil. Those companies are straight hero's imo, put up with ridicule for the opportunity to make all of us have jobs, food and services. My name is Burla, and I am a big oil fan boy. The total fine for BP was 65 billion all sources combined. event 2010, settlement 2016, 15-17 years to pay fines.

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