This normal? 78.3mm moto metals on 77.8mm hub

[Itsalifestylee]

Earlier today I got extremely lucky with a deal on a set of 20x12 -44 motometals w/tires. They were dual slotted 5x5/.5, 78.3mm hub bore. When testing the fit before the purchase the bolts slide perfectly into place. The weird thing is when I put the wheel on the truck to make sure it fit the hub ring was snug but the wheel was really “shaky” without the lugs in place.

For example: my OEM rims I can place on the bolts/hub and they’re pretty sturdy(flat). With these moto metals placed on the bolts/ring it would almost fall off if I didn’t have a hand on it. Idk if it’s because the offset of the rim or the hub itself is really short (not much for the wheel to sit on).

The lugs are ordered so I won’t have them until next Tuesday unless I can find them at a local auto parts store.

I’ve never bought aftermarket rims before so idk if this is normal.

 

[CheechDogg.0n37s]

Hubcentric rings is what you will need ... all aftermarket wheels have them because not every truck has the same bore size, so hubcentric rings will give you a correct fit

 

[Itsalifestylee]

The size difference is only 1/2 mm. I don’t think they make hub rings that small?

 

[CheechDogg.0n37s]

The can mill them to that size .... there are some very thing fawkers out there lol, I am trying to find some but no luck so far ... I am going to reach out to buddy of mine that works for Ultra Wheels in Anaheim California and see if he can get them ....

 

[CheechDogg.0n37s]

Well here you go lol ... this place can get them done

Custom Aluminum Hub RingsAny Size**Max OD=138.8mm

*All Rings are built with a .070" Outer flange. Request custom flange, or no flange at checkout* Request Custom thickness by phone Aluminum Hub Centric

www.uswheeladapters.com

 

[Itsalifestylee]

The can mill them to that size .... there are some very thing fawkers out there lol, I am trying to find some but no luck so far ... I am going to reach out to buddy of mine that works for Ultra Wheels in Anaheim California and see if he can get them ....

Hey thank you! Let me know!

 

[Itsalifestylee]

Well here you go lol ... this place can get them done

Custom Aluminum Hub RingsAny Size**Max OD=138.8mm

*All Rings are built with a .070" Outer flange. Request custom flange, or no flange at checkout* Request Custom thickness by phone Aluminum Hub Centric

www.uswheeladapters.com

Thanks I’m definitely going to check them out!

 

[CheechDogg.0n37s]

But honestly you shouldn't need them, the lugs should center them since "most" aftermarket wheels are also "lug centric" so that there is no need for hub centric rings .....

But you "can" add the rings to lug centric wheels ...

 

[Itsalifestylee]

But honestly you shouldn't need them, the lugs should center them since "most" aftermarket wheels are also "lug centric" so that there is no need for hub centric rings .....

But you "can" add the rings to lug centric wheels ...

I feel like if my hub ring was longer it wouldn’t be a problem but when the rim was put in place I feel like only 1/2 inch came through the rims hub bore. I can’t find how long these stock hubs are but they definitely didn’t look long.

(I.e, if the stock hub was say 3 inches or so i feel like the rim wouldn’t move at all and it’d be stuck in place)

 

[CheechDogg.0n37s]

I just noticed the bolt pattern , for ram 1500s it is 5x139. 7 (5x5. 5) bolt pattern, "IF" it's dual drilled then they should fit yes ... did you confirm they actually fit ?

 

[Itsalifestylee]

I just noticed the bolt pattern , for ram 1500s it is 5x139. 7 (5x5. 5) bolt pattern, "IF" it's dual drilled then they should fit yes ... did you confirm they actually fit ?

Yeah the bolt pattern wasn’t the problem at all. It fit flush with the bolts perfectly and their was plenty of bolt passed the rim to place lugs. I just feel like the hub isn’t long enough to keep it sturdy.

 

[CheechDogg.0n37s]

Hell there is even wheels with 3 bolt patterns on them, the holes are oval to be able to take the 3 different bolt patterns and use some kind of "shim" i believe ..

 

[CheechDogg.0n37s]

Yeah the bolt pattern wasn’t the problem at all. It fit flush with the bolts perfectly and their was plenty of bolt passed the rim to place lugs. I just feel like the hub isn’t long enough to keep it sturdy.

Even if it's not, the lugs will center the wheel, I honestly wouldn't worry about it at all ... the difference is very small which is actually a good thing

 

[Itsalifestylee]

Even if it's not, the lugs will center the wheel, I honestly wouldn't worry about it at all ... the difference is very small which is actually a good thing

Well I appreciate your time. I’ll update you with what happens!

 

[CheechDogg.0n37s]

No problem , but you should be fine when the lug nuts come in ... have a good one

 

[Itsalifestylee]

 

[Itsalifestylee]

No problem , but you should be fine when the lug nuts come in ... have a good one

 

[Itsalifestylee]

lugs came and it fit like a glove!! Love the new look.

 

[CheechDogg.0n37s]

lugs came and it fit like a glove!! Love the new look.

There you go !!! that looks really nice ...

 

[crazykid1994]

My wheels had a 110 bore. They are lugcentric but I opted for hub rings to keep it hubcentric as well since stock does both. The closest I could find without ordering custom were 78.3 to 110. Was told by the company that the .5mm would not be enough to even notice. Been that way for 2 years now no issues. Wish they were a bit thicker as they just barely touch the wheel.