THROTTLE RESPONSE AFTERMARKET CONTROLLER

[Tinman14]

Electronic Throttle Control has been nothing but a nightmare because of the VERY poor response. Trying to pass or left turns is a hazard because of the lack of response to the pedal.
I am looking to install a after market throttle controller. I am looking at the 9-Drive throttle response controller on Amazon for around $67. Is this one OK? Or what do you suggest?
If you are using a controller what one and do they work like they advertise. I have about 25000 miles on my truck and I am planing most likely my last long RV trip because of my age. I pull a 35 foot 5th wheel without any problem except with the throttle control. 2019 3500 laramie longhorn crew cab 4X4 long box 6.7L 400 HP 1000 ft lb. I have search the site but could not find much about my 3500 truck.
THANKS for any help/information you can give......

 

[Billet Bee]

I plan on getting the banks pedal monster for my 20 ram 3500 hohd, based on the majority of opinions from this forum

 

[RamDiver]

Electronic Throttle Control has been nothing but a nightmare because of the VERY poor response. Trying to pass or left turns is a hazard because of the lack of response to the pedal.
I am looking to install a after market throttle controller. I am looking at the 9-Drive throttle response controller on Amazon for around $67. Is this one OK? Or what do you suggest?
If you are using a controller what one and do they work like they advertise. I have about 25000 miles on my truck and I am planing most likely my last long RV trip because of my age. I pull a 35 foot 5th wheel without any problem except with the throttle control. 2019 3500 laramie longhorn crew cab 4X4 long box 6.7L 400 HP 1000 ft lb. I have search the site but could not find much about my 3500 truck.
THANKS for any help/information you can give......

As much as an electronic throttle controller sounds like the best solution, I would strongly urge you to resolve the issue on your truck first.

My Warlock is pretty quick and I'm contemplating adding a 9Drive because of the low cost.

I would not complicate a throttle issue with a band-aid solution.

Fix the problem first and then if you want less throttle delay, buy whatever unit suits your budget.

If money were no object, the Banks unit wins by a long shot, from everything I've read.

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[diymirage]

As much as an electronic throttle controller sounds like the best solution, I would strongly urge you to resolve the issue on your truck first.

My Warlock is pretty quick and I'm contemplating adding a 9Drive because of the low cost.

I would not complicate a throttle issue with a band-aid solution.

Fix the problem first and then if you want less throttle delay, buy whatever unit suits your budget.

If money were no object, the Banks unit wins by a long shot, from everything I've read.

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The problem is, these things are set up like crap

There is a noticeable delayed response between the gaspedal and the throttle body

 

[RamDiver]

The problem is, these things are set up like crap

There is a noticeable delayed response between the gaspedal and the throttle body

Agreed but, it shouldn't be so crappy as to make one feel a lack of confidence to stay safe on the road.

The lag on my Warlock is irritating because I remember the experience of driving V8s in the 80s and 90s and I know what my Hemi is capable of.

Adding a band-aid solution to fix a basic problem will more often than not, bite you in the a$$.

To each there own but I would choose to address the fault before compounding it with a band-aid.

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[Billet Bee]

As much as an electronic throttle controller sounds like the best solution, I would strongly urge you to resolve the issue on your truck first.

My Warlock is pretty quick and I'm contemplating adding a 9Drive because of the low cost.

I would not complicate a throttle issue with a band-aid solution.

Fix the problem first and then if you want less throttle delay, buy whatever unit suits your budget.

If money were no object, the Banks unit wins by a long shot, from everything I've read.

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@Tinman14 To my knowledge theres no fix to resolve the issue because it's a Cummins diesel hohd and not a gasser. Cummins is super great for hp and tq snd towing massive weight, ask me how i know, but when you go to take off of you can forget about it, there's no jump to it. From what allot of others have said on this forum though theres allot of after market throttle help devices to limit the issue and the clear winner was banks due to safety, programmability, not throwing any codes, and being undetectable.

 

[diymirage]

Agreed but, it shouldn't be so crappy as to make one feel a lack of confidence to stay safe on the road.

The lag on my Warlock is irritating because I remember the experience of driving V8s in the 80s and 90s and I know what my Hemi is capable of.

Adding a band-aid solution to fix a basic problem will more often than not, bite you in the a$$.

To each there own but I would choose to address the fault before compounding it with a band-aid.

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i cant tell you about you, but i felt the same way, stomp the gas in my truck, nothing happens

now, my wifes grocery getter has the same engine in it, and you stomp that one and it lurches forward


there is no "band aid" here because there is no "wound" here
it is a design flaw at best


i ran a 9-drive in my truck to make it actually respond, before i had it "fixed" when i had the PCM reprogrammed

ive been told it can also be adressed through alphaOBD

 

[Nick@GotExhaust]

The most reliable and safest throttle controller on the market is the Banks Pedal Monster. We haven't seen one fail yet and IF it should, it has safeties built in so it will not leave you in limp mode. The truck will go back to stock settings.

If you would like a quote, please feel free to message me.

 

[RamDiver]

i cant tell you about you, but i felt the same way, stomp the gas in my truck, nothing happens

now, my wifes grocery getter has the same engine in it, and you stomp that one and it lurches forward


there is no "band aid" here because there is no "wound" here
it is a design flaw at best


i ran a 9-drive in my truck to make it actually respond, before i had it "fixed" when i had the PCM reprogrammed

ive been told it can also be adressed through alphaOBD

My apologies, I wasn't aware that the Ram HOHD was so lacking in takeoff.

I hear endless complaints about the lag in the gassers, while it's annoying, I don't believe it's dangerously slow.

There are no AlfaOBD tweaks for gassers that make any significant improvements to the throttle lag, I haven't looked at the diesel tweaks.

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[diymirage]

My apologies, I wasn't aware that the Ram HOHD was so lacking in takeoff.

I hear endless complaints about the lag in the gassers, while it's annoying, I don't believe it's dangerously slow.

There are no AlfaOBD tweaks for gassers that make any significant improvements to the throttle lag, I haven't looked at the diesel tweaks.

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I think dangerous is a good way to describe it, specially compared to every other vehicle in my driveway

From my wife's journey to my duster, they all respond light-years quicker then a stock ram

Here's an interesting read on the alpha option

Increase Throttle Response

If you want to emulate what a pedal commander does and improve your throttle change two settings in AlfaOBD: To Change go into AlfaOBD and follow the steps below: Body Control Module -> Diagnostics -> Car Configuration Change ECUConfig14 /Acceleration Threshold: Filter Off...

www.ramforum.com

 

[Dan Topp]

Electronic Throttle Control has been nothing but a nightmare because of the VERY poor response. Trying to pass or left turns is a hazard because of the lack of response to the pedal.
I am looking to install a after market throttle controller. I am looking at the 9-Drive throttle response controller on Amazon for around $67. Is this one OK? Or what do you suggest?
If you are using a controller what one and do they work like they advertise. I have about 25000 miles on my truck and I am planing most likely my last long RV trip because of my age. I pull a 35 foot 5th wheel without any problem except with the throttle control. 2019 3500 laramie longhorn crew cab 4X4 long box 6.7L 400 HP 1000 ft lb. I have search the site but could not find much about my 3500 truck.
THANKS for any help/information you can give......

I’ve have had one for close to 10 years I got it after some tuning didn’t help and it improved my A3s response.Dont know how it would work with the ram.

 

[RamDiver]

I think dangerous is a good way to describe it, specially compared to every other vehicle in my driveway

From my wife's journey to my duster, they all respond light-years quicker then a stock ram

I drove a couple of the diesel trucks at work ages ago and don't recall them being dangerous but they weren't a Ram HOHD either.

Only drove them a few times in total.

Here's an interesting read on the alpha option

Increase Throttle Response

If you want to emulate what a pedal commander does and improve your throttle change two settings in AlfaOBD: To Change go into AlfaOBD and follow the steps below: Body Control Module -> Diagnostics -> Car Configuration Change ECUConfig14 /Acceleration Threshold: Filter Off...

www.ramforum.com

Yes, I tried that tweak a couple of times, currently have it configured, I'm not too impressed.

My truck seems to drive the same even when I drive it like I stole it, with or without that tweak.

Like some other AlfaOBD adjustments, it may be more reactivate to different model years.

I'm planning to try out the 9Drive soon.

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[Tinman14]

THANKS for all of the information. I have to do something because it seems to get worse every time I drive my truck. The dealer always says "Nothing wrong". All I'm looking for is better response to the pedal movement. When I make left turns or try to pass another vehicle the dam truck almost comes to a stop before the truck gets any movement from the pedal.
Thanks again for all of the information. I'm going to look at Banks but don't like the price but what the hell its only my kids inheritance money.

 

[RamDiver]

THANKS for all of the information. I have to do something because it seems to get worse every time I drive my truck. The dealer always says "Nothing wrong". All I'm looking for is better response to the pedal movement. When I make left turns or try to pass another vehicle the dam truck almost comes to a stop before the truck gets any movement from the pedal.
Thanks again for all of the information. I'm going to look at Banks but don't like the price but what the hell its only my kids inheritance money.

There are many good threads here that compare the Pedal Monster to the Pedal Commander.

The Banks Pedal Monster would be my first choice if the budget was supportive.

Banks Pedal Monster

Got one coming for a 2022 2500 cummins. Dont need an over the top tuner or speed demon, just want to get rid of a bit of dead pedal or turbo lag. Hoping it helps. Anyone else installed one and what were your thoughts?

www.ramforum.com

Pedal Commander VS Pedal Monster

Not to create a divide, just wondering which one to go with, based on options, performance, reliability, cost and practicality? 2021 Ram Classic 5.7L Hemi, 8 speed trans. Thanks in advance. Serge

www.ramforum.com

I enjoy the video on this page and appreciate the safety features of the Banks PM, regardless of the opinions of the disbelievers.

I'd guess that many of the Pedal Commander proponents have to justify their expenditures.
No offence intended to anyone.

Banks PedalMonster | The World's Best Throttle Controller - Banks Power

Calibrate your throttle with Banks PedalMonster. The patented module is the only one that knows your speed, gear, trans type, and when you're in reverse. PedalMonster makes all other throttle response controllers obsolete.

bankspower.com

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[Billet Bee]

THANKS for all of the information. I have to do something because it seems to get worse every time I drive my truck. The dealer always says "Nothing wrong". All I'm looking for is better response to the pedal movement. When I make left turns or try to pass another vehicle the dam truck almost comes to a stop before the truck gets any movement from the pedal.
Thanks again for all of the information. I'm going to look at Banks but don't like the price but what the hell its only my kids inheritance money.

From what all the folks say that have bought the pedal monster is that after you instal it your problem will be gone baby gone, and depending on how you set it will be how aggressive of a take off you'll get. Being a heavy hauler myself I don't want it to jump off the line and jerk our house but it would be nice to have the thing move for those first couple seconds when you hit the pedal to go out into traffic. I agree that it's a safety issue, especially when your empty and go to pull out of a parking lot or make a sitting still left hand turn at a light before traffic comes through. Once you get her rolling your gtg with all the hp & tq you could ever want, it's just that initial start up that sucks ***. I don't own a banks pm yet but based on everyone's reviews I'm confident that it'll fix the problem once we get one.

 

[Big Gravy]

Electronic Throttle Control has been nothing but a nightmare because of the VERY poor response. Trying to pass or left turns is a hazard because of the lack of response to the pedal.
I am looking to install a after market throttle controller. I am looking at the 9-Drive throttle response controller on Amazon for around $67. Is this one OK? Or what do you suggest?
If you are using a controller what one and do they work like they advertise. I have about 25000 miles on my truck and I am planing most likely my last long RV trip because of my age. I pull a 35 foot 5th wheel without any problem except with the throttle control. 2019 3500 laramie longhorn crew cab 4X4 long box 6.7L 400 HP 1000 ft lb. I have search the site but could not find much about my 3500 truck.
THANKS for any help/information you can give......

I have a 2017 Ram 1500. I searched several different controllers and decided to go with Roar peddle, it's bluetooth and controlled by phone. This thing work awesome. I use it in sport+ mode all the way up. Race mode seems to not like the Trans shift points.

 

[nlambert182]

It's a diesel truck, not a hot rod.... I've owned 3 Rams with the 6.7 Cummins, an F250 with the 6.4 Powerstroke, and a GMC 2500 with the 6.6 Duramax. All have very similar throttle response.

Realistically, I imagine there may be some damage to the driveline if you were towing a heavy load and tried to jump off the line from a dead stop. Instead it rolls into the throttle.

There's way too much torque on a diesel to shock the driveline with all of it at once.

 

[3CUMMINS]

My son had a Banks Pedal Monster for his 2020 2500 CTD.
He no longer has this so I have it on my 2019 3500 CTD duallie. Works like a charm.
He borrowed my truck to pick up his 2005 3500 CTD duallie with the hauler.
Still works like a charm, loaded or not.
No hot shot starts - common sense would suggest that.

 

[SouthernBornRebel]

Pedal Commander........

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=pedal+commander&hvadid=694741532376&hvdev=c&hvexpln=67&hvlocphy=9026561&hvnetw=g&hvocijid=412565597265769317--&hvqmt=e&hvrand=412565597265769317&hvtargid=kwd-302408449673&hydadcr=5708_13276435&tag=googhydr-20&ref=pd_sl_49s2xmzywk_e_p67

 

[2003F350]

My son had a Banks Pedal Monster for his 2020 2500 CTD.
He no longer has this so I have it on my 2019 3500 CTD duallie. Works like a charm.
He borrowed my truck to pick up his 2005 3500 CTD duallie with the hauler.
Still works like a charm, loaded or not.
No hot shot starts - common sense would suggest that.

Not everyone understands that though - they want to put as much of that torque to the road as quickly as possible. I think anymore, if you're relying on common sense, you might as well smack your head on a brick wall.

That said, IMHO if you are having issues with 'slow takeoff' either loaded or unloaded...something's wrong with your truck. My '22 CTD in my 2500 will light up the rear tires from a dead stop if I mat it. I don't do it often but it WILL do it.

IIRC the CTD HO with the Aisin is purposefully programmed to bring the throttle in slower so as to reduce the chance of damage to the driveline. I could be mistaken on that though.