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Of course, https://www.gates.com/us/en.one.122733.html

They just recently hosted their 1Q earnings call. There are links on the above page for you to listen to the audio of the call and also links with numbers and colorful charts for you to enjoy!

You're welcome.
Personally i think user reviews are more valid then quarterly earning reports :rolleyes:


Negative aspects:
  • Mixed quality reports:
    Some users have reported poor quality or durability issues with Gates thermostats.
  • Missing gaskets:
    A common complaint is that the thermostat may arrive without the necessary gasket, which can be a hassle for some users.
 

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Personally i think user reviews are more valid then quarterly earning reports :rolleyes:


Negative aspects:
  • Mixed quality reports:
    Some users have reported poor quality or durability issues with Gates thermostats.
  • Missing gaskets:
    A common complaint is that the thermostat may arrive without the necessary gasket, which can be a hassle for some users.
I have no doubt you trust all those Amazon reviews.

Gates thermostats offer several positive aspects for automotive and heavy-duty vehicle applications, based on their design and performance:
  1. Precision Temperature Control: Gates thermostats provide accurate regulation within a vehicle’s optimal operating range, ensuring consistent engine performance.
  2. Reduced Engine Wear: Their OE-equivalent design helps minimize engine wear by maintaining stable temperatures, extending engine life.
  3. Improved Fuel Efficiency: By optimizing engine temperature, Gates thermostats enhance fuel economy, reducing consumption.
  4. Lower Emissions: They contribute to cleaner combustion, reducing harmful emissions and supporting environmental compliance.
  5. Faster Engine Warm-Up: Gates thermostats accelerate warm-up times, improving performance in cold conditions.
  6. Enhanced Cold-Weather Usability: They ensure reliable operation in low temperatures, improving cabin heat and engine efficiency.
  7. Overheating Prevention: Engineered to prevent engine overheating, they protect critical components from damage.
  8. OE-Equivalent Quality: Gates partners with prime OE manufacturers, offering thermostats that match or exceed OEM standards for fit, function, and durability.
  9. Innovative Features: Many include jiggle pins, check valves, and seals for improved air venting and performance, with some models offering MAP-controlled options for adaptive cooling.
  10. Wide Application Coverage: Available for a broad range of vehicles, including passenger cars and heavy-duty trucks, with integrated housing options for simplified installation.
  11. Reliable Aftermarket Option: User feedback highlights Gates thermostats as dependable, with some reporting years of trouble-free use when properly installed.
These benefits make Gates thermostats a trusted choice for maintaining engine cooling system performance. Always test new thermostats before installation to ensure proper function.
 

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Gates thermostats offer several positive aspects for automotive and heavy-duty vehicle applications, based on their design and performance:
  1. Precision Temperature Control: Gates thermostats provide accurate regulation within a vehicle’s optimal operating range, ensuring consistent engine performance.
  2. Reduced Engine Wear: Their OE-equivalent design helps minimize engine wear by maintaining stable temperatures, extending engine life.
  3. Improved Fuel Efficiency: By optimizing engine temperature, Gates thermostats enhance fuel economy, reducing consumption.
  4. Lower Emissions: They contribute to cleaner combustion, reducing harmful emissions and supporting environmental compliance.
  5. Faster Engine Warm-Up: Gates thermostats accelerate warm-up times, improving performance in cold conditions.
  6. Enhanced Cold-Weather Usability: They ensure reliable operation in low temperatures, improving cabin heat and engine efficiency.
  7. Overheating Prevention: Engineered to prevent engine overheating, they protect critical components from damage.
  8. OE-Equivalent Quality: Gates partners with prime OE manufacturers, offering thermostats that match or exceed OEM standards for fit, function, and durability.
  9. Innovative Features: Many include jiggle pins, check valves, and seals for improved air venting and performance, with some models offering MAP-controlled options for adaptive cooling.
  10. Wide Application Coverage: Available for a broad range of vehicles, including passenger cars and heavy-duty trucks, with integrated housing options for simplified installation.
  11. Reliable Aftermarket Option: User feedback highlights Gates thermostats as dependable, with some reporting years of trouble-free use when properly installed.
These benefits make Gates thermostats a trusted choice for maintaining engine cooling system performance. Always test new thermostats before installation to ensure proper function.
However, some users also express concerns about the quality, with some praising the construction and others noting issues with the quality.
 

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However, some users also express concerns about the quality, with some praising the construction and others noting issues with the quality.
  1. Reliable Aftermarket Option: User feedback highlights Gates thermostats as dependable, with some reporting years of trouble-free use when properly installed.
You're doing great! Keep going....
 

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I'm also curious on your expertise in regard to thermostats,as it sounds like you don't have much experience in regards to a thermostat.Maybe give us an update on your qualifications and why people should give you credit,when there's a pile of reports on here and the facebook pages that disagree with you
 

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I'm also curious on your expertise in regard to thermostats,as it sounds like you don't have much experience in regards to a thermostat.Maybe give us an update on your qualifications and why people should give you credit,when there's a pile of reports on here and the facebook pages that disagree with you
I'm not an expert on thermostats. I'm not expecting anyone to give me credit. I simply shared overwhelming evidence that you requested because you don't want to accept that your way of doing things is illogical and foolish. You ask for a link for where I get my data which validates my position and you unable to discredit it so you dismiss it.

You admittedly draw your conclusions from Facebook while I use financial reports, public disclosures and data compiled by multi-billion dollar investment companies.

If you are replacing a water pump it is wise to replace the thermostat and the data overwhelmingly shows that most people agree with me.
 

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I'm not an expert on thermostats. I'm not expecting anyone to give me credit. I simply shared overwhelming evidence that you requested because you don't want to accept that your way of doing things is illogical and foolish. You ask for a link for where I get my data which validates my position and you unable to discredit it so you dismiss it.

You admittedly draw your conclusions from Facebook while I use financial reports, public disclosures and data compiled by multi-billion dollar investment companies.

If you are replacing a water pump it is wise to replace the thermostat and the data overwhelmingly shows that most people agree with me.
I don't put much stock in financial reports when it come to the quality of a product manufactured by a financial report :Big Laugh:
Like i said you're entitled to your own opinion whether it's wrong or not:waytogo:

Mopar appears to make their own thermostats


This isn't from me,but i know of several people who have bought a Gates thermostat in recent years,and it's made by Motorad



(Maybe not a big deal, but I bought 2 Gates thermostats this week. Came in a Gates box, but Motorad is imprinted on thermostat.)

(Googled this, seems like this has been the case the last few years, and almost all thermostats are now being manufactured by Motorad?)

(I just want to make sure the past quality of these Gates thermostats is still there. I’ve always had good results with Gates. Have never tried Motorad.)





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If you have a good thermostat that's functioning properly and not over heating the engine,"do not" replace it.
Motorad owns most of the thermostat names now,and they make nothing but garbage
Even the OEM sold by Mopar at $64?
 
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they must of used cheap parts.
Probably, I don’t mind spending more for quality, since I am saving by doing the labor myself, and I am fixing to use it for the long haul. I only use the truck to pull my boat 14 miles to the ramp. Not worried if the car needs to be down for a week.
 

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Probably, I don’t mind spending more for quality, since I am saving by doing the labor myself, and I am fixing to use it for the long haul. I only use the truck to pull my boat 14 miles to the ramp. Not worried if the car needs to be down for a week.

You may have read my post about thermostat issues, but I've also had a rough time with water pumps. I replaced two aftermarket ones that went out in less than a year each, and I finally got a good one when I coughed up the money for a new OEM.

Same for my Sierra, new aftermarket started squealing in a couple months at most. That said it doesn't leak or overheat and I'm tired of doing water pumps so Imma just let it squeal until it starts causing problems.
 

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Yet millions continue to be replaced without issue. The probability of a well used thermostat failing is exponentially greater than any random new thermostat failing.

Motorad is the OEM manufacturer btw
Could be true, but who's got the data? Maybe Wildone is reacting to anecdotal incidents, and if he is it uncannily matchs mine. The only recent failures I have personal knowledge of were replacements from aftermarket suppliers.

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Hi everyone,
Update on my old post. I bought the new water pump from Mopar last year when it was on sale and I am replacing it this weekend. I am finishing removing the old one, will keep the old thermostat as advised by many here, my question is, just move it to the new pump as is? Do I have to replace the gasket at least? Another question, once I am done, can I run just water first to ensure there are no leaks before filling with antifreeze?
Thank you all for your help!
 
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