What does a 170.000 mail truck look like?

[Dan Topp]

Can we plug in to your Christmas lights?

 

[G-Ride990]

I was not expecting that when I read your thread title.

WTF

 

[CanuckRam1313]

"The People" usually like to get kissed before they get F'd

 

[Dan Topp]

I was not expecting that when I read your thread title.

WTF

I know but really large print wasn’t available.

 

[Dan Topp]

I think this EV push is popcorn worthy. Just watch StacheD videos,it’s non stop destruction and eye opening.

 

[markabby]

be patient...DOGE will be looking into it

 

[GTyankee]

What is irritating, several years ago

The United States Postal Service was sold to a private company.

Not only did the New Company pay a price that was considered low,
They were given all the Mail Trucks & believe the Post offices Buildings

Given that information, why the F is the US Gov't doing buying new trucks for a private company ????????

By the way, that Private company has lost money at a larger rate than the US Govt did when it was in charge

the Postal Reorganization Act of 1970 into the U.S. Postal Service as an independent agency.

Are U.S. postal workers considered government employees?

USPS positions are not traditional federal jobs since the USPS is not a federal agency (it is considered a quasi-government agency). There are more than 30,000 USPS facilitate across the country, 500,000+ employees, and good benefits such as health insurance, good pay, and a pension plan.
The U.S. Postal Service, which has lost more than $100 billion since 2007, reported a net loss of $9.5 billion for its fiscal year ending Sept. 30, $3 billion more than last year, largely due to a year-over-year increase in non-cash workers' compensation expense.

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I can't even remember the last time that i mailed anything !!

Somewhere i have a partial book of 3 cents stamps

Trump should expel them, make them truly private.

I know, sell them to the Pinkerton Agency

 

[Dan Topp]

The EV scam and other ripoff boondoggles ,if that money was spent on our own infrastructure,we would have the best of everything.

 

[BossHogg]

What is irritating, several years ago

The United States Postal Service was sold to a private company.

This is an Internet rumor that isn't true. The US postal service is part of the Executive branch and is overseen by a collection of governors appointed by the President.

The separation of the Royal Mail and the Post Office in the UK fueled the rumors because it was confused with the USPS. The USPS is in such disarray you couldn't give it away even with cash on the side.

 

[GTyankee]

I read more about the US Post Office going Private

To my thinking, it was a scam

The United States Post Office was owned & run by the U.S. Federal Gov't.

There was a stink about that very fact

So instead of Turning everything over to a Private Company
They made a NEW Branch of Gov't & said that it was now Privatized

USPS positions are not traditional federal jobs since the USPS is not a federal agency (it is considered a quasi-government agency). There are more than 30,000 USPS facilitate across the country, 500,000+ employees, and good benefits such as health insurance, good pay, and a pension plan

beginning in the 1970s, the Postal Service largely stopped receiving any taxpayer money. Postal operations are instead funded by sales to you, the postal customer. Now it depends almost entirely on sales to keep the lights on.

Is the Postal Service a business or a public service?

www.uspsoig.gov

 

[pixiesdad]

Amd now you know that 2 trillion in cuts is not only do able...but is a start!.....

 

[Bob1313]

As one who is quite familiar with Oshkosh I was quite surprised that they got the contract. This not their bailiwick. They make a lot of large specialty equipment. Military equipment like tank retrievers, big ass plows and brooms for airport maintenance, mixer trucks. I always figured DeJoy was getting something from somebody.

 

[HemiLonestar]

Ah, the US government rules of acquisition.....instead of trying to type all that crap out, Nick actually sums it up pretty well here so I'll let him do it: https://youtu.be/YmK24VAaZrg

 

[Tominator223]

Can we get the pizza joints to deliver the mail. Less than 30min.

 

[Dan Topp]

Amd now you know that 2 trillion in cuts is not only do able...but is a start!.....

It’s so crazy they couldn’t even fulfill their billions of dollars to install charging stations,as a A card electrician I can imagine the amount of cable and inverters ect.then how the grid would respond to that kind of draw.480 v 3 ph.150kw.each.or 180 amps or a 200 amp drop for each one.

 

[Dusty]

It’s so crazy they couldn’t even fulfill their billions of dollars to install charging stations,as a A card electrician I can imagine the amount of cable and inverters ect.then how the grid would respond to that kind of draw.480 v 3 ph.150kw.each.or 180 amps or a 200 amp drop for each one.

...and they'd all want them charged at night, wouldn't they?

Regards,
Dusty
2019 Ram 1500 Billet Silver Laramie Quad Cab 2WD, 5.7 Hemi, 8HP75, 3.21 axle, 33-gallon fuel tank, 18” wheels. Build Date: 3 June 2018. Now at 124177 miles.

 

[tjfdesmo]

Oshkosh swilling at the trough, like so many government hogs.

 

[Docwagon1776]

That's not how contracts work. Stop believing social media posts by idiots.

You don't divide product delivered to date by total contract cost to get cost per vehicle. Who imagined that's how it works...

Per unit price is a touch under $60k.

 

[nlambert182]

Typically, no, you don't. There's operational costs, costs of all the non-manufacturing employees on the contract that also include program management, corporate G&A fees, etc... and then the actual cost to build each vehicle.

But as a taxpayer when there are tangible assets to be delivered, you could do the beer math to get an idea of what your tax dollars cost you per unit produced if the goal of the contract is to deliver X-X amount of units by X-X date.

Simply put, if the Gov put OshKosh on contract to build 3,000 trucks (or whatever the number is) and awarded them $10B, that $10B came from someone's tax dollars. The rest is applicable to companies, but is in the noise to tax payers.

Often times some of the management that run these contracts are well north of $200k a year before bonuses. There can be well over $10M a year in combined costs of just the non-manufacturing staff depending on the size of the company.

I've never worked a contract where there weren't at least 1/4 of the staff who are there because of nepotism and who don't contribute much to the cause other than to spend the hours. After all, on a lot of contracts, anything you leave on the table gets sent back to the FedGov. They don't want it back because then it goes to congress, the contracting Gov agency get a black eye, and next years budget gets smaller. Contractors want to spend it because they either get to bill all the hours (T&M) or get a fee on everything spent (Cost Plus).

Then, depending upon how many gov agencies it goes through, each take a percentage (a fee) for handling the money. Quite easy to turn a $60k truck into a $160k truck.

 

[Dan Topp]

That's not how contracts work. Stop believing social media posts by idiots.

You don't divide product delivered to date by total contract cost to get cost per vehicle. Who imagined that's how it works...

Per unit price is a touch under $

You’re absolutely correct I see more info now and admit I was taken by the N enquirer type clickbait. But with all the billions wasted on solar fields and wind farms around here. It will be interesting to be able to see a start to finish on this crapshoot.