How To: Add Factory Keyless Enter N Go

[chrisbh17]

I wonder if they could apply U05 to my truck with the keyless enter n go stuff still in it, or will I have to reinstall the old stuff before having them do it.

I never had the update applied, because my truck seemingly already has AutoPark, but I did read that there was a "limbo" of build dates where the truck would have the software but not enabled, or might not have the software at all. Looks like mine has the software but not officially enabled? And maybe officially enabling it makes it work like Mike G and skuppy

 

[Jimmy07]

So my truck works just like Mike G
I had the auto park recall done last year before I had the push button installed .

I think it might be something when the new fob is programmed and the secret key info is transferred to the new hub by the witech vs alfa. I’m guessing if you need to reset/update your RF Hub, you would use your original PIN, and not 0000?
This is probably a stretch, but, do you have your BCM AND RF Hub configuration before you went to the dealer, and a current one to compare to?

 

[chrisbh17]

When I try to shut the engine down with the truck in Drive, I get "Vehicle not in park" on the EVIC. Im not sure this really has anything to do with fob programming.

What is interesting, though, is that I would get the same exact message before I added push button start and turned the truck off. Of course it actually turned off since I turned the actual "key", but it would say Vehicle is not in park. So, to me, it seems like truck isnt actually shutting the engine off when you press the button, but the EVIC thinks it is.

 

[Jimmy07]

I wonder if they could apply U05 to my truck with the keyless enter n go stuff still in it, or will I have to reinstall the old stuff before having them do it.

I never had the update applied, because my truck seemingly already has AutoPark, but I did read that there was a "limbo" of build dates where the truck would have the software but not enabled, or might not have the software at all. Looks like mine has the software but not officially enabled? And maybe officially enabling it makes it work like Mike G and skuppy

The only reason I don’t think auto park has anything to do with it is because mine won’t shut off in gear, either. I have a 6 speed column shift, and auto park doesn’t exist for my transmission. I believe that if we can figure out how to shut the truck down in gear, the 8 speeds will auto park, anyway.
On a lighter note, I swapped in my old hub and ignition, and changed the keyless go settings back to not set, and they stayed not set, and everything was working as before. I could also shut the truck off in gear.

 

[skuppy069]

I think it might be something when the new fob is programmed and the secret key info is transferred to the new hub by the witech vs alfa. I’m guessing if you need to reset/update your RF Hub, you would use your original PIN, and not 0000?
This is probably a stretch, but, do you have your BCM AND RF Hub configuration before you went to the dealer, and a current one to compare to?

Unfortunately I don’t .
Sorry guys .

 

[skuppy069]

I think it might be something when the new fob is programmed and the secret key info is transferred to the new hub by the witech vs alfa. I’m guessing if you need to reset/update your RF Hub, you would use your original PIN, and not 0000?
This is probably a stretch, but, do you have your BCM AND RF Hub configuration before you went to the dealer, and a current one to compare to?

So I think jimmy is on too something with the witech .
I had all the codes added before I went to the dealership .
Maybe the TCM Needs to be looked at it ?
One thing is the guys who really want this feature maybe get the dealer to add the hub to your truck with witech and see if it corrected then we will know for sure if it’s the witech .
Get the dealership to do the reset replace and see if it works .
My 2 cents anyways.

 

[skuppy069]

I wonder if they could apply U05 to my truck with the keyless enter n go stuff still in it, or will I have to reinstall the old stuff before having them do it.

I never had the update applied, because my truck seemingly already has AutoPark, but I did read that there was a "limbo" of build dates where the truck would have the software but not enabled, or might not have the software at all. Looks like mine has the software but not officially enabled? And maybe officially enabling it makes it work like Mike G and skuppy

I would try it nothing to loose other than when opening the door when backing a trailer etc .
I’ve learnt to deal with it already .

 

[chrisbh17]

I would try it nothing to loose other than when opening the door when backing a trailer etc .
I’ve learnt to deal with it already .

Yeah I just dont know what will happen if I leave my stuff in place before going. Really didnt want to pull the back seat to get to the RF hub again.

My truck does act like it has U05 already, Im curious if there is anything to apply or if they will read the computer and then just mark U05 as applied in my records.

 

[Ghost_RAM]

I know when I programmed my new keys to the new hub I used my original pin and not 0000 but I also never did the reset/replace. If I remember correctly, @Jimmy07 did do the reset/replace on the hub but yours his acting the same as ours. I inquired while I was at the dealership the last time what all updates were out there affected the BCM and for me there were none. The U07 affected the PCM, TCM and RF Hub. I went through each module yesterday and other than the reset/replace, there was nothing I could see that would help us. Makes me think we don't have the same full access that Witech does.

 

[skuppy069]

Yeah I just dont know what will happen if I leave my stuff in place before going. Really didnt want to pull the back seat to get to the RF hub again.

My truck does act like it has U05 already, Im curious if there is anything to apply or if they will read the computer and then just mark U05 as applied in my records.

I would just leave all in place .
I don’t think it matters to be honest .

 

[Ricks Ram]

I am glad to hear Jimmy07's truck was able to be put back and if works. At least I know I can most likely put the truck back if I have too. I haven't talked to my old neighbor who worked at Dodge for a while but I will reach out to him today and see if he still works there. If he is there he obviously cannot reprogram my keys because they've already been programmed so do you think if I had him do a reset/replace procedure on my current RF hub that might help us figure out what's going on? If that didn't work would we possibly have to have the dealer program new keys for us?

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[chrisbh17]

I forgot Jimmy had a 2500, so no 8 speed/electronic shift.

I would tend to lean towards us not having as much access as the WiTech, or at least currently AlfaOBD is missing setting(s) that would make this work.

I wonder if the "Read System ID" output outputs EVERYTHING that is in the module, regardless of if Alfa knows about it or not. Maybe there is something in that list we need access to modify.

 

[Ghost_RAM]

@Jimmy07 If you haven't, can you try reinstalling everything without adding the keyless go setting and see if the push button works?

 

[Ghost_RAM]

I forgot Jimmy had a 2500, so no 8 speed/electronic shift.

I would tend to lean towards us not having as much access as the WiTech, or at least currently AlfaOBD is missing setting(s) that would make this work.

I wonder if the "Read System ID" output outputs EVERYTHING that is in the module, regardless of if Alfa knows about it or not. Maybe there is something in that list we need access to modify.

The read sys ID only shows hardware information for those modules.

 

[Ricks Ram]

Maybe reach out to Alexy to see if he possibly knows what we may be missing or possibly the tool is missing?

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[Ghost_RAM]

Maybe reach out to Alexy to see if he possibly knows what we may be missing or possibly the tool is missing?

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I'll send him and email. I was holding off until we thought we've exhausted all avenues. Which at this point we might have..

 

[chrisbh17]

Maybe reach out to Alexy to see if he possibly knows what we may be missing or possibly the tool is missing?

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Just sent him an email.

 

[Ricks Ram]

I'll send him and email. I was holding off until we thought we've exhausted all avenues. Which at this point we might have..

I agree. I think we are narrowing it down. Do you think I should see if my old neighbor can do a reset on my RF hub? I'm not sure if it's the hub causing the issue or the keys not being fully programmed. At this point I'm pretty confused.

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[Ricks Ram]

Well my old neighbor just texted me back. He doesn't work there anymore so that option is out.

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[chrisbh17]

Just an FYI, I actually read my manual:

"If the gear selector is not in PARK, the ENGINE START/ STOP button must be held for two seconds or three short pushes in a row with the vehicle speed above 5 mph (8 km/h) before the engine will shut off. The ignition switch position will remain in the ACC position until the gear selector is in PARK and the button is pushed twice to the OFF position. If the gear selector is not in PARK and the ENGINE START/STOP button is pushed once, the instrument cluster will display a “Vehicle Not In Park” message and the engine will remain running. Never leave a vehicle out of the PARK position, or it could roll."

Its actually working AS DESIGNED, technically.

The question is why some dont act that way and some do.