Regular 2500 or PW

[ocwill1]

Contemplating going back to HD 2500 later this year, early next year and want to know why the PW's have such a low payload capacity. Do they not have the same axles, is it the different springs. I can see a difference of some amount, but more than half is crazy.. I don't tow, but haul weight and do not want to mess with the air bags on my half ton anymore. Since the 19's ride better, allegedly, I would like to look at them again.... Not worried about mpg, will not be a DD.....

TIA

willie

 

[zeddy]

the reason the pw has a lower rating is because of the springs. much softer, for offroad.

 

[ocwill1]

the reason the pw has a lower rating is because of the springs. much softer, for offroad.

kind of figured.. thanks.. how is the ride in the new 19, heard it was much better.. I had a 2016 and put on new shocks (fox), thuren front suspension. Had the air ride so couldn't do too much in rear except for shocks.. I know it is a HD, but gotta be able to get it ride better....

 

[22hemi13]

kind of figured.. thanks.. how is the ride in the new 19, heard it was much better.. I had a 2016 and put on new shocks (fox), thuren front suspension. Had the air ride so couldn't do too much in rear except for shocks.. I know it is a HD, but gotta be able to get it ride better....

Load it up they ride smoothe as butter. Unloaded will always be rough unless you go full off-road suspension. But then you lose tow capacity. It’s really hard to get best of both worlds.....unless you go off-road suspension on front and rear then add in helper bags for towing. That’ll be as about as soft as you can get and still tow. But still rougher than a 1500

 

[ocwill1]

do they still require 65 psi front and 80 psi rear???

 

[22hemi13]

Not sure on the 19’s but I’d assume so.

 

[olyelr]

Unless you plan on off roading quite heavily, just skip the power wagon.

 

[corneileous]

the reason the pw has a lower rating is because of the springs. much softer, for offroad.

Which is also probably why it’ll never have the CTD, either.


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[corneileous]

Unless you plan on off roading quite heavily, just skip the power wagon.

You know.... if that PW woulda had a little bit more chrome on It, I woulda probably explored it a lot more than my halfton....


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[olyelr]

You know.... if that PW woulda had a little bit more chrome on It, I woulda probably explored it a lot more than my halfton....


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Lol. Thats why I found a ‘16 laramie on a lot and did a dealer trade instead of ordering a ‘17. But man, it sure has a lot of chrome... almost too much.

Day I picked it up at the dealer and traded in rubi...

 

[olyelr]

Which is also probably why it’ll never have the CTD, either.


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They could play with spring rates to make it work with a cummins... they just choose not to. Same with the winch... they could do something to make it work with the intercooler.

 

[ocwill1]

I only like the PW because of its looks, has nothing to do with off roading. In my neck of the woods, Central MD, there is nowhere to off road anyway, except for small trails more for jeeps.. Most people, in my opinion, are not going to off road it anyway, just like the Raptor... I use a truck for hauling stuff, need it to hold at least a ton....

 

[mtnrider]

I only like the PW because of its looks, has nothing to do with off roading. In my neck of the woods, Central MD, there is nowhere to off road anyway, except for small trails more for jeeps.. Most people, in my opinion, are not going to off road it anyway, just like the Raptor... I use a truck for hauling stuff, need it to hold at least a ton....

Waste of money buying the PW then. Buy a regular Ram with more hauling capacity and add some tires/wheel and maybe a level kit and you'll get the PW "look" for less money. No need to pay extra for the PW branding, locking difs, skid plates, etc. if you will never use them.

I owned a PW, great for offroading, not so good for hauling, towing, and daily driving. Traded it within the first year.

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[olyelr]

I only like the PW because of its looks, has nothing to do with off roading. In my neck of the woods, Central MD, there is nowhere to off road anyway, except for small trails more for jeeps.. Most people, in my opinion, are not going to off road it anyway, just like the Raptor... I use a truck for hauling stuff, need it to hold at least a ton....

Then I revert back to what I originally stated. Dont get the power wagon. Get a regular ram, you will like it better for what you use it for. Then, if you like the look of the pw just add the aesthetics of it.

 

[Elkman]

The Power Wagon is an odd duck. Not really set up well for off-road use and with a pathetic payload and tow capacity for a 2500 class truck. Nothing like the Rebel which is well designed for off the road use in every respect.

It is also a far cry from my 1960 Power Wagon that was my first 4WD truck. But then the 1960 Power Wagon was woefully underpowered for its weight and it struggled to maintain 35 mph going up mountain grades.

 

[22hemi13]

The Power Wagon is an odd duck. Not really set up well for off-road use and with a pathetic payload and tow capacity for a 2500 class truck. Nothing like the Rebel which is well designed for off the road use in every respect.

It is also a far cry from my 1960 Power Wagon that was my first 4WD truck. But then the 1960 Power Wagon was woefully underpowered for its weight and it struggled to maintain 35 mph going up mountain grades.

Lol. Dude a rebel lol. No way a rebel will hold up to a pw. It won’t hold up to my non pw 2500 with thuren suspension. There’s just no articulation in a rebel. Fast sure. Off-road capable not so much

 

[olyelr]

The Power Wagon is an odd duck. Not really set up well for off-road use and with a pathetic payload and tow capacity for a 2500 class truck. Nothing like the Rebel which is well designed for off the road use in every respect.

It is also a far cry from my 1960 Power Wagon that was my first 4WD truck. But then the 1960 Power Wagon was woefully underpowered for its weight and it struggled to maintain 35 mph going up mountain grades.

What the sam hell?

 

[pwjouster]

The Power Wagon is an odd duck. Not really set up well for off-road use and with a pathetic payload and tow capacity for a 2500 class truck. Nothing like the Rebel which is well designed for off the road use in every respect.

It is also a far cry from my 1960 Power Wagon that was my first 4WD truck. But then the 1960 Power Wagon was woefully underpowered for its weight and it struggled to maintain 35 mph going up mountain grades.

im sorry, why is the rebel more suited then the powerwagon? im quite confident my PW would blow away a rebel in every way.

Air bags in the rear and it will tow anything a cummins would....albeit at 5MPG. same underpinnings as every other 2500 CTD minus the soft springs...which i swapped for softer ones anyway.

best ride quality of any truck ive ever been in. Most modify their suspension anyways.

If your even considering a PW, then towing is not your day job and the PW will do just fine... and if your daily driving it...it will blow away an unloaded CTD in ride quality.

You can get this truck set up perfectly to haul heavy, and it will be comfortable once you drop the load.

 

[22hemi13]

im sorry, why is the rebel more suited then the powerwagon? im quite confident my PW would blow away a rebel in every way.

Air bags in the rear and it will tow anything a cummins would....albeit at 5MPG. same underpinnings as every other 2500 CTD minus the soft springs...which i swapped for softer ones anyway.

best ride quality of any truck ive ever been in. Most modify their suspension anyways.

If your even considering a PW, then towing is not your day job and the PW will do just fine... and if your daily driving it...it will blow away an unloaded CTD in ride quality.

You can get this truck set up perfectly to haul heavy, and it will be comfortable once you drop the load.

The 4th gen rebel to me was really just an appearance package. The 5th gen rebel does add in a rear locker. But yeahhhhhh i’d take a stock 2500 over a rebel and I bet the 2500 would walk around it. A 1500 will do work off-road but it requires more put into it than a 2500 does. There’s a few 1500 guys on here that have tricked out their truck and it’s very capable. But seriously a stock rebel vs a stock pw there’s videos on it and the pw is better if you’re really using it. I think he is jelly Sorry for long post. My coffee kicked in lol

 

[corneileous]

im sorry, why is the rebel more suited then the powerwagon? im quite confident my PW would blow away a rebel in every way.

Air bags in the rear and it will tow anything a cummins would....albeit at 5MPG. same underpinnings as every other 2500 CTD minus the soft springs...which i swapped for softer ones anyway.

best ride quality of any truck ive ever been in. Most modify their suspension anyways.

If your even considering a PW, then towing is not your day job and the PW will do just fine... and if your daily driving it...it will blow away an unloaded CTD in ride quality.

You can get this truck set up perfectly to haul heavy, and it will be comfortable once you drop the load.

I’m sure you could add helper bags or even a good weight-distribution hitch to pull/haul close to what an actual 3/4-ton can do but the thing is, that little sticker on your door jamb and what the vehicle manufacturer says that truck can legally do is what would matter. All I’m sayin is that if something were to ever happen, no lawyer or insurance company is gonna care that you went way outside your vehicle’s limitations just because you put on a set of air bags.

I’m not in any way whatsoever trying to tell you what to do or what not do. I’m just simply giving the thread discussion food for thought.

But on another note; wouldn’t the air bags interfere with the truck’s extreme suspension articulation?


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