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skidoorulz

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Just looked at the Ram website and am wondering when Ram is going to do away with the build and price option and just flat out say we are going to build it the way we want to and the hell with you! The 3500 Limited Longhorn has four color options. No chrome bumper option, one diesel engine option which runs 13K, one color for interior and a 15 year old body style that they just throw different front plastic on. They can KMA! I have found myself for the first time in 40 years driving on to Ford and GM lots. Doubt I will by another Ram
 

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The 1500 and HD have not been on different cabs for this long that I can ever remember. The 5th Gen 1500 came out in 2018 as an early release '19, yet in 2025 the HD is still on the gussied up 4th Gen cab, dubbed Gen 4.5. Pretty sad TBH.

The ZF Powerline should be a winner.

They stubbornly cling to the 10K GVWR on the 2500, though the other guys have ignored it for several years. This creates the payload disparity problem. I understand Class 2 has a ceiling, but let's get real. On the plus side, finally offering the HO and ZF on the 2500 will be a boost for sure.

As to the Cummins, glow plugs suck, and putting lipstick on a CP4 pig is flirting with disaster again. I'm OK with the canister oil filter if it's not a $50 Mopar exclusive oddball. I'll be OK with the fuel filters if there is not a bunch of stuff in the way. It's fairly crowded there currently and the motor mount etc is pretty close by.

Not a fan of 3.42 gears as the only option. At least offer 3.73.
 
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I said Ram 3500 Limited Longhorn. 4 colors Granite Crystal, Forged Blue, Black and White. One thing about the only interior option is at least it isn't black, but about the only color brown would go with is white. I did miss the chrome bumper option but the rest is true. Nothing but Blaw for the last 3 years. Starting to think they resurrected Henry Ford from the grave and he is running things, You can have whatever color you want as long as it is black.
 

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I said Ram 3500 Limited Longhorn. 4 colors Granite Crystal, Forged Blue, Black and White. One thing about the only interior option is at least it isn't black, but about the only color brown would go with is white. I did miss the chrome bumper option but the rest is true. Nothing but Blaw for the last 3 years. Starting to think they resurrected Henry Ford from the grave and he is running things, You can have whatever color you want as long as it is black.
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My bad. It isn't 6, it is 8. 2 hiding off to sides.
 

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It IS disappointing... I've been waiting for YEARS for Ram to update the cab & body style... to no avail. I was tempted to upgrade when they switched to the 8 speed tranny, as the 6 speed on my '16 Tradesman (gasser) can be a bit clunky at times. But then the pandemic... and skyrocketing prices... and supply chain issues. I tried bargaining on a few Rebel 2500s in the past few months, but I'm not biting on a few thou off of a truck that's been sitting on the lot for over a year... not to mention the ugly grille. I'm divided on the '25s... on the one hand, it's a tough sell b/c all they've done is change headlights/taillights (on the gasser). But... it's also a well-established, proven platform (my '16 6.4L has been flawless, other than recalls) with a proven track record. I was tempted to go Ford or GMC, but I haven't warmed up to the Super Duty styling, & am not a fan of the direct-injected engines on the GMC (and no gearing options). I guess the good thing is that I don't HAVE to do anything... so I can wait for the right deal/truck to come along.
 

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Still available. OP didn't state a 2025 was a must have. 2025 has 5 color options, and still don't know what color OP wants that isn't there. Removing color options when they don't sell reduces costs, so maybe the 2025 didn't go up as much as it could have between color elimination and other cost saving measures. They could buy a Tradesman if color choice is as big of a deal, 20 options!

Bottom line, not everyone will be happy and OP's past postings contain a fair amount of concern on other issues, so maybe a Ram isn't their thing anymore. It's okay, hopefully they enjoy their new vehicle whatever it is.
 

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Ram did away with the chrome bumper option in 2023 or 2024. For 2025 there is only one diesel engine option across all trims of 2500/3500/4500/5500. The high output engine is it. Simplifies production.
 

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Ram did away with the chrome bumper option in 2023 or 2024. For 2025 there is only one diesel engine option across all trims of 2500/3500/4500/5500. The high output engine is it. Simplifies production.
Increasing costs and increasing insanity of govt regulations are forcing the auto industry into another malaise era. Designs are getting stale. Quality is down. New technology isn't as reliable as it should be. Option packages are extremely limited. In decades to come 2000 - 2020 will be seen as a heyday for the automobile, just as 1955 - 1975 were.
 
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Tron67j, you should take a course in reading comprehension. I specifically said 2025 3500 Limited Longhorn! There are four color options for that model what about red or silver or Austin Tan or the brown they once offered? Reducing color options does not reduce production cost. They all go down the same paint line and are painted the color ordered simply by flushing the sprayer to switch color. But you go ahead and buy what they want to shove down your throat. I hope you enjoy driving your black Ram with the ugly black grill. There is a very good reason Ram is losing sales big time. I wouldn't be surprised if in about 10 years they stop production of them all together.
 

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Tron67j, you should take a course in reading comprehension. I specifically said 2025 3500 Limited Longhorn! There are four color options for that model what about red or silver or Austin Tan or the brown they once offered? Reducing color options does not reduce production cost. They all go down the same paint line and are painted the color ordered simply by flushing the sprayer to switch color. But you go ahead and buy what they want to shove down your throat. I hope you enjoy driving your black Ram with the ugly black grill. There is a very good reason Ram is losing sales big time. I wouldn't be surprised if in about 10 years they stop production of them all together.
Here's an idea. Have you called a dealer to see what their ordering system says regarding color options? The website build tool is far from accurate and not as flexible as the dealer ordering tool.

Otherwise, it is what it is. Crying about it on a forum isn't going to change anything. If you don't like what is being offered then buy something else.
 
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Not crying about it. Just stating my opinion like you and everyone else does on all forums. It is called freedom of speech. I read the rules and nowhere in them does it say do not express your displeasure about the crap that Ram is shoving down our throats. My first dodge was bought in 1978 and with the exception of a 2004 GM product I have driven nothing but Chrysler products since. Bet you can't say that. Stellantis is digging the knife that Daimler stuck in Chrysler corporation deeper and at this rate they will succeed in doing what Daimler started.
 

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chrome bumpers still available on the 2025s... just a bit more expensive... but it appears they're trying to discourage excessive uses of chrome. As a materials engineer, I get it... hexavalent chromium is EXTREMELY carcinogenic, and makes for an environmental nightmare. That said, it's extremely durable... & won't be peppered with stone chips like a painted bumper/grille would.
 

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Not crying about it. Just stating my opinion like you and everyone else does on all forums. It is called freedom of speech. I read the rules and nowhere in them does it say do not express your displeasure about the crap that Ram is shoving down our throats. My first dodge was bought in 1978 and with the exception of a 2004 GM product I have driven nothing but Chrysler products since. Bet you can't say that. Stellantis is digging the knife that Daimler stuck in Chrysler corporation deeper and at this rate they will succeed in doing what Daimler started.
Dont be a tool.
 
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Dont be a tool.
Don't be an idiot! Be willing to bet there are many who agree with me and Ram sales declines prove it. They just are not willing to say so because of the way some here have responded to my post!
 

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Reducing color options does not reduce production cost. They all go down the same paint line and are painted the color ordered simply by flushing the sprayer to switch color.

Yes, and flushing that sprayer takes time to do, time that could be spent painting it one of the other generic colors. Time = money, so offering more colors is inherently more expensive. Henry Ford, your may have heard of him, specifically only made cars in black despite many criticisms because that is how they could get the most production out the door. And there is a fair amount of wasted paint every time you do that change over. Clearly you don't understand basic manufacturing principles, so maybe slow your roll.

Don't be an idiot!

Ah yes, when called out for your attitude, double down with name calling.
 

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Let's not be either and discuss the topic like adults.
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I was going to say something else but yea. dude acts like a ***** to members here and posts garbage he should be called out for it. i dont care how old or how many dodge products he bought. dont be a ****.
 

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It's a pretty easy concept to grasp. This is a numbers game.

If that particular trim sells the highest and fastest in those few color schemes the decision may well have been to only offer the ones they sell the most of, versus letting others sit on the lot longer. Paint has a shelf life, so storing colors they won't use on that trim costs money. Changing over colors costs money. It's not as simple as "flushing out the color". Don't provide what the market doesn't want.

For the engine, it's a 3500.... likely using the same metrics they use to determine color, they probably determined that the majority of 3500s sold were with a Cummins. So that's what they offer. It reduces carrying costs of having trucks sit on the lot unsold. If you want gas, get a 2500 or another trim level that offers a gasser (if it exists in a 3500).

I personally have always liked the Ram styling in comparison to Ford and absolutely despise GM's awful styling. I particularly like the 2025 bodystyle. If it's popular enough, why change it?

If you don't like either, there is always the option to switch brands. :) That's why they exist. Something for everyone.
 

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