35s

[Lucy Girl]

I am getting ready to put 35s on my power wagon they are also 12.5 wide on 17 wheels any issues with me doing this?

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I am getting ready to put 35s on my power wagon they are also 12.5 wide on 17 wheels any issues with me doing this?

l love Power Wagons. Especially their looks.

 

[Lucy Girl]

Mud is the only thing we have here and lots of it if anyone needs some. We share in Texas.

 

[olyelr]

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l love Power Wagons. Especially their looks.

WTF?! Lol

 

[Lucy Girl]

WTF?! Lol

WTF I have always liked Power Wagons. Chevy or Ford never made anything like them. They just look better.

 

[olyelr]

WTF I have always liked Power Wagons. Chevy or Ford never made anything like them. They just look better.

Hey I understand that... but what I was WTF'ing was that you quoted a guy asking a question if 35's would fit on his truck, and your response was that you like the looks of Power Wagons.

 

[Lucy Girl]

Hey I understand that... but what I was WTF'ing was that you quoted a guy asking a question if 35's would fit on his truck, and your response was that you like the looks of Power Wagons.

That’s right but I don’t have to like 35” tires. I have always stuck to stock trie size because I can’t stand to lose even 1HP to the ground. So that being said I still like The PW that Dodge makes. I have a 2018TM with 6.4 2 dr

 

[Grand Mesa]

That’s right but I don’t have to like 35” tires. I have always stuck to stock trie size because I can’t stand to lose even 1HP to the ground. So that being said I still like The PW that Dodge makes. I have a 2018TM with 6.4 2 dr

It's probably best to never drive into Colorado due to our mean elevation is 6,800 feet and your Ram will lose much more than just 1 HP. There's an appropriate 20% reduction at even the lower than the mean elevation where I live which is at approximately 6,000 feet. Lots of folks live even higher at or above 10,000 feet. I doubt that going up to a 35" tire from stock would make as much of difference in loss of WHP as high elevation driving does. Best to stay near sea level to have all of that HP.

https://www.robertson-marine.com/boatingintherockymountains

 

[Lucy Girl]

It's probably best to never drive into Colorado due to our mean elevation is 6,800 feet and your Ram will lose much more than just 1 HP. There's an appropriate 20% reduction at even the lower than the mean elevation where I live which is at approximately 6,000 feet. Lots of folks live even higher at or above 10,000 feet. I doubt that going up to a 35" tire from stock would make as much of difference in loss of WHP as high elevation driving does. Best to stay near sea level to have all of that HP.

https://www.robertson-marine.com/boatingintherockymountains

Promise to stay in Texas. Although Colorado is a BEAUTIFUL state. I have been there lots of times but never in the winter. 62 today.

 

[Grand Mesa]

I didn't notice any power loss going to a 34.1" (285 75R17) from the 33.0" (285 70R17) factory OEM sized tires. A 35" tire is between 34.4" to 34.8". Highly doubt that I would notice a WHP loss due to a 0.3 to 0.7 inch increase in height over a 34.1" with the stock 4.10 to 1 gear ratio. Driving up the dirt road to the top of White Mountain Peak at 14,252 feet elevation is where one in a Power Wagon might notice the loss in horsepower.

 

[olyelr]

I didn't notice any power loss going to a 34.1" (285 75R17) from the 33.0" (285 70R17) factory OEM sized tires. A 35" tire is between 34.4" to 34.8". Highly doubt that I would notice a WHP loss due to a 0.3 to 0.7 inch increase in height over a 34.1" with the stock 4.10 to 1 gear ratio. Driving up the dirt road to the top of White Mountain Peak at 14,252 feet elevation is where one in a Power Wagon might notice the loss in horsepower.

I noticed quite the difference with my 35" Falkens. However, they are not only taller and wider, but a LOT heavier than the stockers. I honestly think the added rotating mass probably made the biggest difference.

 

[olyelr]

That’s right but I don’t have to like 35” tires. I have always stuck to stock trie size because I can’t stand to lose even 1HP to the ground. So that being said I still like The PW that Dodge makes. I have a 2018TM with 6.4 2 dr

Well ****, why dont you put smaller than factory tires on there and GAIN some HP to the ground.

 

[Lucy Girl]

Well ****, why dont you put smaller than factory tires on there and GAIN some HP to the ground.

15’s on the way. Thanks for thinking about that.

 

[olyelr]

15’s on the way. Thanks for thinking about that.

Dude, you dont have to change wheel size to change tire size. Not sure what truck you have, but if its modern then 17’s are probably as small as you can go.

 

[Grand Mesa]

I noticed quite the difference with my 35" Falkens. However, they are not only taller and wider, but a LOT heavier than the stockers. I honestly think the added rotating mass probably made the biggest difference.

The factory stock Duratrac tires were 54 lbs each when new per the specifications. Note: These were Load Range D tires with a 2 ply sidewall of which were good for city usage, but weren't heavy duty enough for the 1 ton loads being hauled within a rural area.

After replacement with my 65 lb each in weight Cooper tires, Load Range E with a 3 ply tire carcass and sidewall, I immediately noticed a more than 2 MPG hit within the 80 MPH speed limit zones while driving from Casper, Wyoming to Sheridan, Wyoming via I-25 and I-90 and back. It doesn't help in my figuring the MPG loss was while driving through high winds that are common place in Wyoming. Adding the 1" in height probably helped the MPG somewhat, but the 11 pounds of heavier weight in tire rotating mass definitely took more fuel to move at the higher speeds. Since there are few gas stations along this route I had to ease up on guzzling it down too quickly. Just keep it now at 75 MPH (actual around 78 MPH), otherwise it really tends to suck it down fast keeping it at the 80 MPH (actual around 83.5 MPH) since it will down shift more often and then wide open up the throttle in order to maintain the speed while ascending grades.

The Falken 35" tires being even another 10.4 pounds than my 34" and and a little over an inch wider would more than likely take even more power to turn. At 75.4 pounds they are some of the heaviest around. A more aggressive M/T tread pattern at that same weight would take even more power to rotate.

 

[olyelr]

The factory stock Duratrac tires were 54 lbs each when new per the specifications. Note: These were Load Range D tires with a 2 ply sidewall of which were good for city usage, but weren't heavy duty enough for the 1 ton loads being hauled within a rural area.

After replacement with my 65 lb each in weight Cooper tires, Load Range E with a 3 ply tire carcass and sidewall, I immediately noticed a more than 2 MPG hit within the 80 MPH speed limit zones while driving from Casper, Wyoming to Sheridan, Wyoming via I-25 and I-90 and back. It doesn't help in my figuring the MPG loss was while driving through high winds that are common place in Wyoming. Adding the 1" in height probably helped the MPG somewhat, but the 11 pounds of heavier weight in tire rotating mass definitely took more fuel to move at the higher speeds. Since there are few gas stations along this route I had to ease up on guzzling it down too quickly. Just keep it now at 75 MPH (actual around 78 MPH), otherwise it really tends to suck it down fast keeping it at the 80 MPH (actual around 83.5 MPH) since it will down shift more often and then wide open up the throttle in order to maintain the speed while ascending grades.

The Falken 35" tires being even another 10.4 pounds than my 34" and and a little over an inch wider would more than likely take even more power to turn. At 75.4 pounds they are some of the heaviest around. A more aggressive M/T tread pattern at that same weight would take even more power to rotate.

Have you not yet changed your tire size setting to gain proper shift points and speed readings? If not, I highly recommend it. I absolutley could not stand driving my truck until it was changed, just from going from 33’s to 35’s. It shifted so screwy.... well, even worse than normal lol

 

[Sdreeser]

15’s on the way. Thanks for thinking about that.

Before you buy 15 inch wheels you may want to check and make sure they will clear your rotors and brake calipers

 

[Lucy Girl]

Hey guys 15’s on their way was only a reply to olyelr. I hope everybody knows you can’t put 15” wheels on a HD truck, but in case some of you don’t know it don’t work.

I know most of the guys here like large tires and they are OK with me on yall’s trucks, just not on mine. I love low end torque and you will lose some with the larger tires. Now I am sure someone will give some kind of feed back on that remark. Will be funny to see who.

This forum is a serious and also a place too have fun with a lot of the more serious folks and I believe it is working.

I want to thank all of you who has replied to my thoughts and some of them I take serious and some of them not but anyway it is a lot of fun in the end.

 

[Lucy Girl]

Dude, you dont have to change wheel size to change tire size. Not sure what truck you have, but if its modern then 17’s are probably as small as you can go.

2018 HD 2 door 6.4. 17” tires. My truck is manual everything. No power windows or locks. I wanted to save weight so I went no options. Ha!!

 

[Grand Mesa]

Have you not yet changed your tire size setting to gain proper shift points and speed readings? If not, I highly recommend it. I absolutley could not stand driving my truck until it was changed, just from going from 33’s to 35’s. It shifted so screwy.... well, even worse than normal lol

No, I haven't. Good idea though. I've thought about it and made a determination that it's more an issue of the mountain terrain that I drive in. If it were a bit cheaper, I might give it a go. My son recently this week sent me a link to one, but I will pass. He sent it to me for adjusting the RPM higher for the winch use, but then my Power Wagon already does that.

https://zautomotive.com/product/tazer-ram/

The shift points are off a bit off at the lower speeds driving up and down through the mountain roads and canyon grades which are all around here. The 4% larger tire change isn't even noticeable at all on the flat city streets and highways within the cities. It seems to shift spot on.

 

[DarthMegaHD]

The factory stock Duratrac tires were 54 lbs each when new per the specifications. Note: These were Load Range D tires with a 2 ply sidewall of which were good for city usage, but weren't heavy duty enough for the 1 ton loads being hauled within a rural area.

After replacement with my 65 lb each in weight Cooper tires, Load Range E with a 3 ply tire carcass and sidewall, I immediately noticed a more than 2 MPG hit within the 80 MPH speed limit zones while driving from Casper, Wyoming to Sheridan, Wyoming via I-25 and I-90 and back. It doesn't help in my figuring the MPG loss was while driving through high winds that are common place in Wyoming. Adding the 1" in height probably helped the MPG somewhat, but the 11 pounds of heavier weight in tire rotating mass definitely took more fuel to move at the higher speeds. Since there are few gas stations along this route I had to ease up on guzzling it down too quickly. Just keep it now at 75 MPH (actual around 78 MPH), otherwise it really tends to suck it down fast keeping it at the 80 MPH (actual around 83.5 MPH) since it will down shift more often and then wide open up the throttle in order to maintain the speed while ascending grades.

The Falken 35" tires being even another 10.4 pounds than my 34" and and a little over an inch wider would more than likely take even more power to turn. At 75.4 pounds they are some of the heaviest around. A more aggressive M/T tread pattern at that same weight would take even more power to rotate.

You’re probably getting better mileage than indicated. The additional circumference is throwing off your mpg reading for the worse so if you’d do a manual calculation I guarantee you’d have better results. Although you can’t go off your odometer because that is also inaccurate now