4x4 problem Ram 2013+ 8-speed 44-44 transfer case

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https://vimeo.com/143203353

you work for fiat so you tell me, what's this??? That's at a ram dealership by the way I recorded it while the technician went inside to get the manager. They both agreed is not right but that the way is made to work.

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Ha, I am an Engineer (not the kind you guys think of when you have issues). Not even remotely related to the RAM brand, or the functionality of the cars. I honestly have no explanation for why yours is doing that, or why anyone else is doing that. The answer would be I don't know. :(
 

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that should NOT be happening, ever.
But it does happen. And no one would fix it or acknowledge that it was a problem. Even ram themselves as I sent the video to them directly and they said as long as the front does kick on with enough throttle there was nothing they could do. No matter the 4wd mode it always had a delay or wouldn't kick in unless half to full throttle. Whether it's right or wrong, I and others were told to deal with it.

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But it does happen. And no one would fix it or acknowledge that it was a problem. Even ram themselves as I sent the video to them directly and they said as long as the front does kick on with enough throttle there was nothing they could do. No matter the 4wd mode it always had a delay or wouldn't kick in unless half to full throttle. Whether it's right or wrong, I and others were told to deal with it.

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Unforttunately that would be correct. As long as you get torque to the front wheels, its. 4x4 system, and they didn't lie. 4lo still has a lower gear ratio, and 4 auto still acts as an auto. Sorry some of you have issues , but that's definitely not by design.
 

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Unforttunately that would be correct. As long as you get torque to the front wheels, its. 4x4 system, and they didn't lie. 4lo still has a lower gear ratio, and 4 auto still acts as an auto. Sorry some of you have issues , but that's definitely not by design.
4 lock is false advertising. I can see how they can get away with saying it's still 4x4 as long as the front moves at some point,Even though it's complete ********* but that's what lawyers and fine print are for, but the absolute fact that it clearly even says "4lock" on the dash is complete false advertisement. Eben on the ones that "work" it's still false advertisement. End of story.

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The fact that every single winter this thread pops back up is hilarious. To whoever said that the 44-44 is a good transfer case back down on that dose of medical marijuana.

I just revisited this thread for the first time since last winter, and it depresses me, on how many people are perfectly content with this transfer case.

I do laugh and find it hilarious, that even with the overwhelming evidence on here, there always seems to be a few morons that still don't understand how the 4wd lock and 4wd low settings don't actually lock up until slippage occurs, on these trucks with the BW 44-44.

I'm still waiting for my truck to go off warranty, but as soon as it's expired, I'm going to try and swap in a 44-45 t-case.

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I just revisited this thread for the first time since last winter, and it depresses me, on how many people are perfectly content with this transfer case.

I do laugh and find it hilarious, that even with the overwhelming evidence on here, there always seems to be a few morons that still don't understand how the 4wd lock and 4wd low settings don't actually lock up until slippage occurs, on these trucks with the BW 44-44.

I'm still waiting for my truck to go off warranty, but as soon as it's expired, I'm going to try and swap in a 44-45 t-case.

Carl

Those morons that think it works like it should is because it does. I think the "moron" in the equation, is the "moron" that purchased a truck not knowing how one of the most important features on the truck would work. :favorites13:
 

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Those morons that think it works like it should is because it does. I think the "moron" in the equation, is the "moron" that purchased a truck not knowing how one of the most important features on the truck would work. :favorites13:
I think there is a slight possibility that people read the 4 lock button and actually assume it means what it says, as in when I hit 4 lock it actually does lock. Since Ram is the only one using this type of transfer case except for the upper end ford trucks (which for all we know they actually have it programmed to actually lock) they should at least have it in the manual that they bought a truck with a transfer case that belongs in a car.

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Those morons that think it works like it should is because it does. I think the "moron" in the equation, is the "moron" that purchased a truck not knowing how one of the most important features on the truck would work. :favorites13:
Ya the most important part that DOESN'T work is more like it. 4×4 is 4x4 and part time all wheel drive is "part time" all wheel drive. The truck does not in any way shape or form have 4 lock as advertised. it works on an "as needed" or "on demand" principal, some more delayed than others. end of story. Some work better than others but they are all made from a ****** design. SOME WORK BETTER THAN OTHERS BUT THEY ARE ALL JUNK. can you comprehend that? Some work better than others..... but in the end, they are all junk. Guess you got a "better" ****** transfer case than the rest of us. Congrats on the blacktop!!!!!

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Ya the most important part that DOESN'T work is more like it. 4×4 is 4x4 and part time all wheel drive is "part time" all wheel drive. The truck does not in any way shape or form have 4 locks as advertised. it works on an "as needed" or "on demand" principal, some more delayed than others. end of story. Some work better than others but they are all made from a ****** design. SOME WORK BETTER THAN OTHERS BUT THEY ARE ALL JUNK. can you comprehend that? Some work better than others..... but in the end, they are all junk. Guess you got a "better" ****** transfer case than the rest of us. Congrats on the blacktop!!!!!

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your logic is flawed. For one, you have no evidence to point that it's "******" other than a few people on a forum that says so. Keep in mind, hundreds of thousands of them were created, just as many are on the road, aside from a max of 20 people in this thread, doesn't' make it ******. Even combining the threads across the entire internet on this one transfer case, makes up maybe 5% of total ownership, so " ****** " is relative. You still purchased that ****** transfer case, that's your fault, should have done your research?

How did you manage to figure out how the system works, how it was designed , and how it SHOULD work, if it's not in the owners manual? Surely not by other internet warriors toughting about how they have a ****** transfer case?
 

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I think there is a slight possibility that people read the 4 lock button and actually assume it means what it says, as in when I hit 4 lock it actually does lock. Since Ram is the only one using this type of transfer case except for the upper end ford trucks (which for all we know they actually have it programmed to actually lock) they should at least have it in the manual that they bought a truck with a transfer case that belongs in a car.

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That's kind of the problem isn't it? The same people not paying attention to final drive ratios, but saying YOU NEED THESE SUPER LOW GEARS IN ORDER TO GET POWA!!! If you look at the things that are said, and discussed, it's not like the brightest people in the world are buying these trucks. From what I can see, the only people that complain, are the people that didn't do the research. Everyone else that uses it , that isn't complaining, considerably more than there are complaining, seem to be doing just fine?
 

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your logic is flawed. For one, you have no evidence to point that it's "******" other than a few people on a forum that says so. Keep in mind, hundreds of thousands of them were created, just as many are on the road, aside from a max of 20 people in this thread, doesn't' make it ******. Even combining the threads across the entire internet on this one transfer case, makes up maybe 5% of total ownership, so " ****** " is relative. You still purchased that ****** transfer case, that's your fault, should have done your research?

How did you manage to figure out how the system works, how it was designed , and how it SHOULD work, if it's not in the owners manual? Surely not by other internet warriors toughting about how they have a ****** transfer case?
You Ever realize that more people get on the Internet to ***** than people that are satisfied? How many people have you found in your extensive research that praise this junk? Plus not everyone feels it's "worth it" and some people just over look it plus others don't know how to use the Internet or just plain rarley use 4 wheel drive. So, in short, **** off and be happy yours works to your satisfaction.

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You Ever realize that more people get on the Internet to ***** than people that are satisfied? How many people have you found in your extensive research that praise this junk? Plus not everyone feels it's "worth it" and some people just over look it plus others don't know how to use the Internet or just plain rarley use 4 wheel drive. So, in short, **** off and be happy yours works to your satisfaction.

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Ah, yeah, I know plenty of people happy with it, because it works. You don't buy a truck to go offroad, then ***** you got something you had NO IDEA worked that way. Your buzz words and ignorance are futile. You made a mistake, the transfer case has always done the same thing it's always done, and it'll continue to do it. The ONLY denominator here, is you, the person that purchased it without the proper education as to how it worked. I am happy with mine, so thanks. It works exactly as I expected it to.. I wouldn't spend 50k on something I had no idea worked a certain way, that's the literal definition of "moron". :favorites13:
 

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your logic is flawed. For one, you have no evidence to point that it's "******" other than a few people on a forum that says so. Keep in mind, hundreds of thousands of them were created, just as many are on the road, aside from a max of 20 people in this thread, doesn't' make it ******. Even combining the threads across the entire internet on this one transfer case, makes up maybe 5% of total ownership, so " ****** " is relative. You still purchased that ****** transfer case, that's your fault, should have done your research?

How did you manage to figure out how the system works, how it was designed , and how it SHOULD work, if it's not in the owners manual? Surely not by other internet warriors toughting about how they have a ****** transfer case?

OK, so give me one, just one advantage to this transfer case over the GM auto-trac transfer case, I'll let you think on that because you will be a while.
You think everyone actually comes on the Internet to figure out what is going on with their transfer case let alone to complain about it? Most people never even use their 1500's off road, let alone use it in a situation where you would find out the transfer case doesn't lock.
I'm not repeating myself, to tell the full story, but find my posts in this thread. I talked to Nick Cappa, who is the head of media relations, the head of ram 1500, the head of customer satisfaction, and the engineer in charge of the 4wd systems, so if you want to claim we are all "keyboard warriors" go ahead. I will be sitting here driving a truck with a transfer case that actually locks, you can keep your AWD system. I know I will never have a issue with mine overheating and leaving me stranded, if yours works for you good for you, but you claimed before it actually locks when it is easy to prove it does not.

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Ah, yeah, I know plenty of people happy with it, because it works. You don't buy a truck to go offroad, then ***** you got something you had NO IDEA worked that way. Your buzz words and ignorance are futile. You made a mistake, the transfer case has always done the same thing it's always done, and it'll continue to do it. The ONLY denominator here, is you, the person that purchased it without the proper education as to how it worked. I am happy with mine, so thanks. It works exactly as I expected it to.. I wouldn't spend 50k on something I had no idea worked a certain way, that's the literal definition of "moron". :favorites13:
If you are going to come on here and tell everyone that you knew ahead of time how the transfer case truly worked and truly didn't lock you are a liar, I would tell that one to your face. If it were advertised in any form no one would have any logical complaint, but considering 3 years later and it still is not labeled as a AWD system with a low range that is why people have issues with it's functionality.

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Ah, yeah, I know plenty of people happy with it, because it works. You don't buy a truck to go offroad, then ***** you got something you had NO IDEA worked that way. Your buzz words and ignorance are futile. You made a mistake, the transfer case has always done the same thing it's always done, and it'll continue to do it. The ONLY denominator here, is you, the person that purchased it without the proper education as to how it worked. I am happy with mine, so thanks. It works exactly as I expected it to.. I wouldn't spend 50k on something I had no idea worked a certain way, that's the literal definition of "moron". :favorites13:
If by "offroad" you mean drive back and forth to work with the expectations of not spinning out on a freshly dusted road with a truck that is sold as four wheel drive, then no I had no idea it would be as worthless as it was. My wife's Ford Escape out preforms that ram with absolutely no exaggeration. So like I said, be happy you got one that functions properly....for now. But then again you most likely live in Florida or California and just bought a 4x4 for a status symbol.

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