5100's at 2.1

[ajs3]

As the title states.....do I need to replace upper control arms with this mod. I know OEM'S are a problem with ball joint geometry so what say you guys?
2014 1500 4x4 5.7

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[BOWERSFJ]

At 2.1”, no ... 2.8” it’s a good idea for a 14


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[daveray9]

Ive had mine at 2.1 for over 2 years. 0 issues with factory control arms.

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[rexdog]

I kept my stock arms for about 6 months, no problems but I replaced with Mevotechs anyway. They are much beefier but the ball joint angle seems to be the same as stock

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[kurek]

Man it's weird how this forum has been open for years and somehow nobody's ever asked about this exact thing before.

 

[ajs3]

Man it's weird how this forum has been open for years and somehow nobody's ever asked about this exact thing before.

That's why I asked. Did some searching and couldn't find an answer to my question. Thanks guys.

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[ajs3]

I kept my stock arms for about 6 months, no problems but I replaced with Mevotechs anyway. They are much beefier but the ball joint angle seems to be the same as stock

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Was looking at the mevotechs. Decent price and you can grease the ball joint.

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[Gary2]

I took it for granted it was understood that the basic Mevotec replacement arm that is considered a direct replacement that it don't change geometry as with most OEM replacement parts

 

[kurek]

That's why I asked. Did some searching and couldn't find an answer to my question. Thanks guys.

Man I'm not trying to bust your balls too hard here but.. if you type in BILSTEIN UCA in the search box at the top in this section (4th gen, lifted) it returns almost 500 results and probably a quarter of those results answer the question you asked.

You're fine with the stock arms. The Mevotech arms are stock replacement arms and don't have corrected geometry for the raised ride height so they don't really bring anything to the table, you might as well keep your stock arms since they work fine. Bilsteins are the same extended length that stock struts are so they never go out of the stock range of motion.

When you change the ride height the neutral position on the lower arm alignment cams will change and at the highest 2.8" setting you're about at the end of their adjustment range, that's why upper control arms are helpful but not absolutely necessary with a Bilstein lift. But this is something the Mevotechs don't address since they're just stock replacement arms.

There now another search result that answers this question for the nobody who'll ever search it.

 

[ajs3]

Man I'm not trying to bust your balls too hard here but.. if you type in BILSTEIN UCA in the search box at the top in this section (4th gen, lifted) it returns almost 500 results and probably a quarter of those results answer the question you asked.

You're fine with the stock arms. The Mevotech arms are stock replacement arms and don't have corrected geometry for the raised ride height so they don't really bring anything to the table, you might as well keep your stock arms since they work fine. Bilsteins are the same extended length that stock struts are so they never go out of the stock range of motion.

When you change the ride height the neutral position on the lower arm alignment cams will change and at the highest 2.8" setting you're about at the end of their adjustment range, that's why upper control arms are helpful but not absolutely necessary with a Bilstein lift. But this is something the Mevotechs don't address since they're just stock replacement arms.

There now another search result that answers this question for the nobody who'll ever search it.

No worries...lol....I'm not that patient. Certainly not patient enough to wade through 500 results. Much faster to ask a question and get an answer.
No, the mevotechs don't change the ball joint geometry, I knew that. They are beefier and I do like the zerk fitting on the ball joint. But if it ain't broke, I ain't fixin it.
The whole reason I asked this was because my son bought me 5100's front and rear and I like doing things once. Truck only has 50,000 miles on it so I'm not thinking bad ball joints. I hope not at least.


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[Michael]

On my ‘14 I set my bilsteins at 2.8 and I’ve had no problem so far and I’ve got a little over 46k miles on them.


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[ram1500rsm]

You don't have to change your UCAs at 2". Works about the same for most IFS applications. There are benefits in the aftermarket offset ones in terms of alignment and whether or not you're running extended travel COs for example, longevity for fast Offroad applications etc. I always change them when I lift the front 2-3" regardless.

 

[kurek]

No worries...lol....I'm not that patient. Certainly not patient enough to wade through 500 results. Much faster to ask a question and get an answer.
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Ah, I get it. Just want it hand delivered on a platter. I cannot respect that and won't participate in it again.

 

[ajs3]

Ah, I get it. Just want it hand delivered on a platter. I cannot respect that and won't participate in it again.

Oh god......I'm sorry for being a little old fashioned and not as computer literate as you'd like me to be. Thank you again for your answers to my annoying questions. It won't happen again.

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[Gary2]

Thats OK it just means the next guy who don't care for starting duplicate posts has to wade through 501 now . google works wonders when in doubt and can't master the search tool.

 

[daveray9]

Oh god......I'm sorry for being a little old fashioned and not as computer literate as you'd like me to be. Thank you again for your answers to my annoying questions. It won't happen again.

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Most people buzzing around on this forum in the day are just bored at work. Like you saw, if you dont feel like searching and post youre question you will get answers pretty quickly.... lots of people willing to help so dont make it the last time you ask a question. Good luck with the Bills.

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[ajs3]

To those who answered my question, thank you for your time. Moderators please delete this thread so as to stop gumming up the works here.
PLEASE DELETE.

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[Michael]

To those who answered my question, thank you for your time. Moderators please delete this thread so as to stop gumming up the works here.
PLEASE DELETE.

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Deleting wouldn’t be helpful to others needing help. Maybe shutting down replies might be a better choice.


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[Simpleman]

I installed bilstein's on both my rams and never had any issues

 

[MileHighRam11]

I kept my stock arms for about 6 months, no problems but I replaced with Mevotechs anyway. They are much beefier but the ball joint angle seems to be the same as stock

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Did they come in red or you painted them? I've only seen them in the gray.