Ate my first ECOBOOST!

[RLJ10X]

There's nothing wrong with the 5/6 speed if you have 4.10s or 4.56s. I HATED it with 3.55s.

My next truck is going to be an 8 speed with 3.92s, tho. I'd love to have that real low first gear.

 

[Ratket]

Cai/exhaust/tune/ ford tremor .. those 5k in mods and holy **** that truck would be fun... i almost bought one.. but even with my discount at ford the one i wanted was 45k.. got my 6.4 2500 with more options for 39k. Sucks for ford.. cause i am sold on mopar now.

 

[Ecofx86]

Cai/exhaust/tune/ ford tremor .. those 5k in mods and holy **** that truck would be fun... i almost bought one.. but even with my discount at ford the one i wanted was 45k.. got my 6.4 2500 with more options for 39k. Sucks for ford.. cause i am sold on mopar now.

Cai are worthless on ecoboost.

Exhaust meaning downpipes are 300 bucks.

CustomTune/programmer 500 bucks

That's 800 bucks to take a tremor to mid 13s.

Crew cab ecoboost with those mods are seeing low 13s high 12s.

Sorry but I just couldn't help myself correct you.


2012 Ram Hemi aka Roger

 

[1882]

Haven't been here since I traded in the spring for a Ecoboost and I sure loved my Hemi but everything here being said about a tune and downpipes is true. What I love most about the Ecoboost is the diesel like torque. Towing the same trailer behind my Hemi would have her screaming for mercy at 4K RPM and guzzling fuel like no tomorrow while the Ecoboost doesn't even think about downshifting while in 6th and about 1800 rpm. Ya just can't beat that boys.

 

[2012ramHEMI]

Yeah I looked but where do you see crew or quad cabs in the 13s? I see moe talking about a 2014 regular cab in 12s.

If you have a ecoboost a 400 tuner and 80 buck custom tune will get you in mid 13s all day.

I have a buddy with mpt tune, downpipes, cai, and charge pipe ran 13.25 in 90 degree Louisiana heat . We going to the track December 7th state capital Raceway baton rouge. Shooting for high 12s in this Cooler weather. I weigh 100 pounds lighter than him, so I'll be behind the wheel. No way any full size hemi running close to that. But if any hemis around Baton rouge wanna prove me wrong, come on down.


2012 Ram Hemi aka Roger

Trey you already know ill be there. Hopefully pinero gets his eco back and running by then. He ordered his 15 mustang but it wont have it till mid january

 

[Ratket]

Cai are worthless on ecoboost.

Exhaust meaning downpipes are 300 bucks.

CustomTune/programmer 500 bucks

That's 800 bucks to take a tremor to mid 13s.

Crew cab ecoboost with those mods are seeing low 13s high 12s.

Sorry but I just couldn't help myself correct you.


2012 Ram Hemi aka Roger

2011 F150 EcoBoost Build
MPT Ecoboost Tuning Overview

Any time.. but in these above links.. a nice wagner intercooler followed up by upgraded mid pipes fed by a nice afe intake.. equaled some serious hp .. well as much can be expected from a set of mini turbos. 5k is what i would of spent doing it the way i wanted. I believe it was mpt who netted a 13.6 1/4 witch just a 93 oct tune?.. id have to go through and re read it. Livernois is also a heavy hitter in eco boost arena.. they make a some good stuff as well.
When i said intake i meant from the air filter to the intake manifold.. and full exhaust. Sorry for the confusion.

 

[Ecofx86]

I posted a Video of me running 13.28.

I bought everything but an aftermarket cac. I had k&n cai, afe charge pipe, Mak off Road down pipe , custom cat back , rx catch can and 170 tstat.

Over 30 time slips. Anyone will tell you know that the main mods to do are tune, cac and downpipe. The rest dont do much.

My friend has all the mods I had plus wagnor cac and spent about 3600 bucks.

We going to the track in the 7th with his truck. Should be in 12s.
He ran 13.20s all day in 85 degree weather with that set up during the summer.



2012 Ram Hemi aka Roger

 

[clays laramie]

I traded my ecoboost 2 weeks ago for a laramie cc... and the difference is night and day.. my eco was having serious issues...only 21000km on it....the scariest was going to hammer the throttle on freeway and having nothing.....take your foot off the accelerator then the engine decides to light up and spin the tire while im not even touching the pedal...the eco engines are full of bugs.... very happy to get rid of it.

 

[RLJ10X]

cac stands for Cold Air Charge. It's an inter cooler that mounts in front of the radiator. I didn't know what it was, so I looked it up.

I read a lot about the EcoBoost when they came out. I've read several stories like Clay's^. I like Fords enough to own one. I have a 13 V6 Mustang. But I'm not sold on that little twin turbo 6. I know 3 guys that had 4 of the turbo Power Strokes. All 4 of those trucks eventually had expensive turbo problems. Everything has gotten to be too electronically complex. Read this month's Road and Track. It is really, really scary the road we're on as far as electronic / GPS monitoring . Soon, it's going to be like having a cop in the vehicle with you at all times. Sorry, I got a little off track.

 

[grdach]

I seriously doubt any Hemi could beat an EcoBoost of the same setup. I just came out of a '13 EcoBoost Supercrew into this '13 Ram 4x4 Hemi and let me tell you, the Hemi is nice but it's completely gutless off the line compared to the EcoBoost. I have pics with both trucks with me standing beside them in my profile. Hemi beating EcoBoost on launch, not happening. Not on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.....you get the idea. The HEMI would probably keep up on top end. The Eco has wicked torque literally as soon as you hit the pedal. The HEMI delivers smooth power, but the Eco will throw you back in the seat.

The HEMI is a great engine as I wouldn't have bought it if it wasn't. I'm not dissing anyone, but having owned both trucks, I know first hand how each performs. Don't get me wrong, I love my Ram. I do miss the power of the EcoBoost. It was addictive. I have noticed though that the Hemi does get equal or better MPG than the EcoBoost.

 

[BlownGP]

Thanks for bringing back up a year old thread.

The problem with the ram is the gearing and how it builds power in the upper RPMS
Throw a TQ and some 4.10s in the Ram and let it eat.

 

[grdach]

Even then, I doubt it would beat the Eco. The HEMI is a dog until it hits 3,500. The HEMI is a very reliable engine. It's a very good engine that sounds good. It just lacks low end power. Reminds me of those freaking 4cyl engines that you have to wind to 5k RPM to get any decent power. I love the truck, but my truck will not even chirp the tires under any conditions, TC off....nope. Nothing. The Eco would damn near shred the tires.

The Ram is the best looking truck though, hands down. I get more compliments on the Ram.

 

[charonblk07]

Buddy's hemi with the 8-speed can't keep his tires from not spinning through 1st and 2nd with his summers on, so yeah, they have lots of low-end torque and the 8 speeds with the 3.92s easily launch the same as the EB now if you have a tire that will stick it. The same can't be said for the 3.21s or the 6-speed without a TC and 4.56s. The low 1st gear of the 8-speed coupled with a 3.92 is a hell of a combo for the drag strip and depending on cab size we have some running at the strip in the mid-high 12s with standard bolt-ons.

My truck can eat most anything out here, including diesels but most truck aren't built like mine. So far I haven't found an ecoboost that will keep up with me on the street, modded or not, but there's a new one about 2 hours from me that I'd like to meet at the track some time from what I've heard he's pushing the EB envelope pretty good with his water/**** setup.

 

[drittal]

I had 2 ecoboost f150. I can say that being turbo that have a little lag off the line. For the first couple feet it is normal acceleration. Once the turbos spool up it set you back. And it's deceiving how fast it is. An NA motor pulls harder and harder as it winds up. That dang EB motor pulls the same at 1200rpm as 5000. when I bought mine, the only EB with 4.10 was the fx4. The 4x2 models can have 3.15 gears, the 4x4 as low as 3.31. I had a 3.31 and a 3.73 geared EB.

The new Ford GT will be powered by a variant of the EB pushing around 550-600 hp! I know 5 Star had tunes that added 90-100 hp to the F150 EB.

 

[Ecofx86]

Buddy's hemi with the 8-speed can't keep his tires from not spinning through 1st and 2nd with his summers on, so yeah, they have lots of low-end torque and the 8 speeds with the 3.92s easily launch the same as the EB now if you have a tire that will stick it. The same can't be said for the 3.21s or the 6-speed without a TC and 4.56s. The low 1st gear of the 8-speed coupled with a 3.92 is a hell of a combo for the drag strip and depending on cab size we have some running at the strip

My truck can eat most anything out here, including diesels but most truck aren't built like mine. So far I haven't found an ecoboost that will keep up with me on the street, modded or not, but there's a new one about 2 hours from me that I'd like to meet at the track some time from what I've heard he's pushing the EB envelope pretty good with his water/**** setup.

What kind of track times you running? If you ain't low 13 high 12s than you just never ran into the right ecoboost.

2012 Ram Hemi

 

[charonblk07]

What kind of track times you running? If you ain't low 13 high 12s than you just never ran into the right ecoboost.

2012 Ram Hemi

You might want to go back and read this whole thread, most of have talked about how the EB will get the jump on most Rams but will be reeled back in once the small turbo's peaked, but it's depending on what gears and trans is being run. As for my build, I'm making 738rwhp but 7 months of winter and the nearest track being 3hrs away, track times just haven't happened but everybody's expecting it in the low 12s/high 11s on the bottle. Top speed when I was only making 650rwhp was 273km/hr in a quad cab 4wd.

 

[Ecofx86]

I can t see your sig. . What mod u running? I'm talking basic bolt on tunes. Ecoboost should win in most cases. My ecoboost I had 3.15 2wd crew cab would run mid 13s all day long with tune and downpipe.

2012 Ram Hemi

 

[MyOhFive]

What kind of track times you running? If you ain't low 13 high 12s than you just never ran into the right ecoboost.

2012 Ram Hemi

Only way charonblk is gunna run high 12s at the track is if he got out n pushed the truck the first 60'.

There are quite a few bolt-on tuned rams on here running 12s actually.

 

[charonblk07]

I can t see your sig. . What mod u running? I'm talking basic bolt on tunes. Ecoboost should win in most cases. My ecoboost I had 3.15 2wd crew cab would run mid 13s all day long with tune and downpipe.

2012 Ram Hemi

The high level mods are 15psi D1SC on a forged 349 block, tuned w/m injection, and a 175 shot through a L&M 545rfe, 3.92s, 28" DRs and 4wd if I need traction. I can think of 5 RC and CC trucks on here, bolt-ons only, that are in the 12s so it's very possible if you have the right trans/gear combo in stock form. It's impossible to generalize and say that a Hemi will get wrecked by an EB (or vice-versa), everything's dependent on what combo each is running.

I've come across some heavily modded EBs including turbo wheel swaps and they are fast, but I'm faster at the moment. One day I'll get beat by one and I'll sleep just fine that night, there's always something faster out there.

Only way charonblk is gunna run high 12s at the track is if he got out n pushed the truck the first 60'.

There are quite a few bolt-on tuned rams on here running 12s actually.

LMAO!! Maybe I should try that, run a Chinese fire drill at the 60' mark. And that's what I'm getting at, we have bolt-on trucks running 12s with the 8-speed and 3.92s, so it's definitely possible to beat the EB with bolt-ons, provided they're running the correct gear ratio with the 8-speed. I just wish I could try out some of that negative DA some day and not my normal 3000+.

I respect the EBs ability to make power and against most bolt-on 5/6-speeds and 3.21 geared 8-speeds they'll will, but I can beat a smart car on the street unless it's a Hyabusa swapped smart car; the right combo will always win.

 

[Ecofx86]

What quad cab crew cabs running 12s with bolt on and tunes?

I'm talking 4 door vs 4 door. Not single cabs. The fastest 4 door 8speed I seen on here is Jay greens. That's a low 13 second truck with him driving it.



2012 Ram Hemi