Blackstone - used oil analysis

[Hootbro]

I have the 6.4. I use 5W-30.

There was an old video back in 2014-2015 that has since been pulled off the official Ram Truck YT channel with the chief engineer taking a question and answer session on the then new released 6.4L for RAM. He mentioned that all development and engine testing was designed around 5W-30. He did not clarify why 0W-40 would make it as the recommended fluid but speculation was to keep it align with the SRT 6.4L variants that needed it.

I ran 5W-30 in my 2015 2500 with the 6.4L with no issues a couple of times and an oil analysis showing it ran fine.

 

[JHoward]

Ok, I drove around adding the mileage needed(3000 miles oci)so I could send Blackstone Labs my oil sample ... otherwise, it'd be around the second week of November due to my normal driving/mileage habits.

Also, I'm curious, is to the accident that my truck suffered this time last year, that might have caused any internal engine damage. My HEMI's last report showed much higher than normal wear of iron and aluminum that might be from that accident ...

I'll be changing the oil this weekend and report back the results.

Fingers crossed that it gets an good clean bill of health ...

 

[JHoward]

... added note.

My HEMI has had normal wear numbers since new to current from Blackstone Labs.

However, from the last report after the accident, six months later, the wear numbers of iron/aluminum were on the extreme side.

(I perform 3000 miles oci's since new and this oci is @currently 54,000 miles).

 

[JHoward]

Oil sample collected and will be sent off to Blackstone Labs first thing Monday, 10/28/24.

Oil to be tested is Red Line 5w/30 @ 3000 miles ...

 

[JHoward]

Finally got the latest Blackstone Labs oil report on my 2017 HEMI.

 

[Burla]

Finally got the latest Blackstone Labs oil report on my 2017 HEMI.

It's about time, lol.

Puzzling, what a huge drop in iron and alum. So large something seams off, no way should you see that improvement in 3k miles unless the other uoa was severe duty and this wasn't. Guess we will really have to wait to see what's up next uoa. Seams like last uoa was the outlier, so maybe severe duty? Maybe you have an issue with some copper part during the severe duty? How hard did you work your truck last uoa?

 

[JHoward]

It's about time, lol.

Puzzling, what a huge drop in iron and alum. So large something seams off, no way should you see that improvement in 3k miles unless the other uoa was severe duty and this wasn't. Guess we will really have to wait to see what's up next uoa. Seams like last uoa was the outlier, so maybe severe duty? Maybe you have an issue with some copper part during the severe duty? How hard did you work your truck last uoa?

I've never towed, pulled a trailer or dragged raced my truck and the engine has never been "opened up" for any type of repairs.

 

[Burla]

I've never towed, pulled a trailer or dragged raced my truck and the engine has never been "opened up" for any type of repairs.

Do you have any idea what happened last time? Any conditions different? Cold weather?

list all oils for those 6 uoa's? most of them 5w30?

 

[JHoward]

Do you have any idea what happened last time? Any conditions different? Cold weather?

list all oils for those 6 uoa's? most of them 5w30?

Oils for those six oil samples are Red Line 5w/30.

I do indeed know what's probably happended to my HEMI engine ... it probably didn't take the head on collision with an eighteen wheeler, this time last,very well ...everything on my truck was pulled off from the bent frame and was put on a new frame.

So, idk ...

Edited for adding a few pics.

 

[JHoward]

I've not noticed any difference how my truck runs or sounds ... performs like it has since new.

 

[CanuckRam1313]

Oils for those six oil samples are Red Line 5w/30.

I do indeed know what's probably happended to my HEMI engine ... it probably didn't take the head on collision with an eighteen wheeler, this time last,very well ...everything on my truck was pulled off from the bent frame and was put on a new frame.

So, idk ...

The kinetic energy your truck, and subsequently your HEMI experienced during the collision, has possibly translated to cascade damages after the fact regarding your HEMI engine (and possibly your transmission, too!)!

This is something that most insurance companies work very hard to bury (transmissions, too!) to ensure that they aren't on the hook for, after the fact, for the damages that they are fully aware of that occur in these types of scenarios long term! (in my opinion!).

However, these types of cascading damages are a real thing that we must all be aware of, and fight upfront for to be indicated on the claims from the beginning.

For, in todays world of teflon suit wearing dummies that are out to break us and our rights to compensation for those future (edit-- AND.. cascading) damages that are inevitably inherent and we are rightfully entitled to!

 

[JHoward]

The kinetic energy your truck, and subsequently your HEMI experienced during the collision, has possibly translated to cascade damages after the fact regarding your HEMI engine (and possibly your transmission, too!)!

This is something that most insurance companies work very hard to bury (transmissions, too!) to ensure that they aren't on the hook for, after the fact, for the damages that they are fully aware of that occur in these types of scenarios long term! (in my opinion!).

However, these types of cascading damages are a real thing that we must all be aware of, and fight upfront for to be indicated on the claims from the beginning.

For, in todays world of teflon suit wearing dummies that are out to break us and our rights to compensation for those future (edit-- AND.. cascading) damages that are inevitably inherent and we are rightfully entitled to!

Well, maybe the good thing is that I have the Blackstone Labs oil analyst reports on my truck since new @ 3000 mile oil change intervals ...hmm.

 

[CanuckRam1313]

Well, maybe the good thing is that I have the Blackstone Labs oil analyst reports on my truck since new @ 3000 mile oil change intervals ...hmm.

Absolutely, Brother!

My $0.02 on this is that you send these reports to your insurance company and ensure that you indicate possible cascading damages to your engine and possible transmission in the headline and request that it is put on record in your claim file

This is real scientific info that supports your claims and it is on you now to ensure that your insurance company acknowledges and accepts this information now before they write your claim off entirely.

Were I you, Brother, I would take a sample of your transmission fluid, too and send it in to Blackstone for analysis as well. Cover all your bases, Brother!

 

[Burla]

Oils for those six oil samples are Red Line 5w/30.

I do indeed know what's probably happended to my HEMI engine ... it probably didn't take the head on collision with an eighteen wheeler, this time last,very well ...everything on my truck was pulled off from the bent frame and was put on a new frame.

So, idk ...

Edited for adding a few pics.

as good as redline is, it cant stop damage from a headon with a big rig

Your a badaz dub, this I know. Yeah great news with uoa's, you might want to open a case against his ins for a new engine. what an awesome benefit to testing oil every oci, Burla blown away!

You should let Blackstone know with pics, I am seeing a truck of the month for their letter!

 

[Burla]

Man, I am surprised they didn't total ya, it must have been close to 80% of the value, they usually total it. I think the elevated copper suggests engine damage, it would be a legitimate case. Who decided to fix it and not total it? you, your ins, his ins?

 

[CanuckRam1313]

as good as redline is, it cant stop damage from a headon with a big rig

Your a badaz dub, this I know. Yeah great news with uoa's, you might want to open a case against his ins for a new engine. what an awesome benefit to testing oil every oci, Burla blown away!

You should let Blackstone know with pics, I am seeing a truck of the month for their letter!

Hell FN Yeah!!!

 

[CanuckRam1313]

Man, I am surprised they didn't total ya, it must have been close to 80% of the value, they usually total it. I think the elevated copper suggests engine damage, it would be a legitimate case. Who decided to fix it and not total it? you, your ins, his ins?

??? This ?????? !
You got smacked by an FN semi and walked away... let alone your ins company authorizing the repairs to your rig... WTF!!!

 

[CanuckRam1313]

Man, I am surprised they didn't total ya, it must have been close to 80% of the value, they usually total it. I think the elevated copper suggests engine damage, it would be a legitimate case. Who decided to fix it and not total it? you, your ins, his ins?

Are U FN kidding... I am 100% with you on this sentiment!
WTF is my $0.02 regarding this statement.

 

[JHoward]

Man, I am surprised they didn't total ya, it must have been close to 80% of the value, they usually total it. I think the elevated copper suggests engine damage, it would be a legitimate case. Who decided to fix it and not total it? you, your ins, his ins?

Lol, my insurance ...

My insurance and the eighteen wheeler are THE SAME!, lol ...what an tangled web on this one ... the insurance co. can't sue themself for reimbursement from their "insured client"? ...

The kinetic energy your truck, and subsequently your HEMI experienced during the collision, has possibly translated to cascade damages after the fact regarding your HEMI engine (and possibly your transmission, too!)!

This is something that most insurance companies work very hard to bury (transmissions, too!) to ensure that they aren't on the hook for, after the fact, for the damages that they are fully aware of that occur in these types of scenarios long term! (in my opinion!).

However, these types of cascading damages are a real thing that we must all be aware of, and fight upfront for to be indicated on the claims from the beginning.

For, in todays world of teflon suit wearing dummies that are out to break us and our rights to compensation for those future (edit-- AND.. cascading) damages that are inevitably inherent and we are rightfully entitled to!

Absolutely, I'm not for sure of certain where my situation will end up.

I asked to file with my insurance provider an diminished value claim and was told, by the insurance companies hired adjuster, I wasn't qualified for that claim because of the rental car I had offset the amount of my total insurance claim:

• to repair my truck, ~ $22,800.00

• rental car for six months, ~ $7,300.00

• current trade and NADA value on my prestige 2017 RAM 1500 RCSB Express @ ~ 50,000 miles at the time of the accident, worth ~ $24,500.00 ...

Add all that up, my truck should have been totaled and now it's quite possible that more damage has occurred and I'm basically left s*h*I*t outta luck ...

Do me a favor(favour), go out and hug your truck and hope you don't ever run into a situation, such as mine.

 

[JHoward]

??? This ?????? !
You got smacked by an FN semi and walked away... let alone your ins company authorizing the repairs to your rig... WTF!!!

No, he ran a stop sign and I smacked him ...