Did Redline Oil work against your Hemi Tick?

[Travis8352]

Yes there were at least 4 of us who tried to spread the word, very surprised nobody wanted this info in the forums. Of course with the exception of the guys who ended up coming to ram forum because of it, a happy group with quiet hemi's.

Seems like people should be happy a tick can be quieted with an oil change

 

[Burla]

Seems like people should be happy a tick can be quieted with an oil change

I think you are under estimating business interests on the other side, plus people on the internet just generally like to fight. I can say for sure it was business interests at BITOG they way responded. Redline doesn't support them, amsoil and pennzoil does. So I'll just leave it here with a question, do you think amsoil and pennzoil wants information that redline oil kills tick that amsoil and pennzoil doesn't? Because that was in the thread, because it was true, but not something they want to read. It is what it is.

 

[Travis8352]

I think you are under estimating business interests on the other side, plus people on the internet just generally like to fight. I can say for sure it was business interests at BITOG they way responded. Redline doesn't support them, amsoil and pennzoil does. So I'll just leave it here with a question, do you think amsoil and pennzoil wants information that redline oil kills tick that amsoil and pennzoil doesn't? Because that was in the thread, because it was true, but not something they want to read. It is what it is.

Makes total sense to me actually. Didnt think of it from a business perspective. I thought it was more so from the "oil is oil" guys that just run super tech conventional cause its cheap and says oil. I never really liked bitog anyway. I read uoas on there and thats it

 

[Burla]

Makes total sense to me actually. Didnt think of it from a business perspective. I thought it was more so from the "oil is oil" guys that just run super tech conventional cause its cheap and says oil. I never really liked bitog anyway. I read uoas on there and thats it

It is common knowledge mods, at least one of them, at BITOG are in Amsoil's pocket, which there is nothing wrong with imo especially since they admit it. I blame Redline for it's lack of marketing, not other oil companies.

 

[Doodoo972]

Hi guys,
I don't have access to Redline oil here but I uses MOTUL 300V 5w30 with LiquiMoly Mos2 and it killed all the noises (tick and clank).
Very happy with this combo so far.

 

[Burla]

Hi guys,
I don't have access to Redline oil here but I uses MOTUL 300V 5w30 with LiquiMoly Mos2 and it killed all the noises (tick and clank).
Very happy with this combo so far.

That is great news, from day one we thought 300v would be the best non redline option, glad it worked.

thanks for the report

 

[TunaFresh]

Hi, I just joined the forum. What do the UOA numbers look like on Red Line? Noise is one thing, but what are the used oil samples looking like?

 

[Burla]

Hi, I just joined the forum. What do the UOA numbers look like on Red Line? Noise is one thing, but what are the used oil samples looking like?

The long term uoa's are incredible, both in hemi tick engines and engines w/o hemi tick. I'll try and get one one of each. So of note you can see both of these guys had other oils as well, you can note the miles on those oils and the wear differences with redline. See moly level easy to see which is redline. Now, consider that hemi's are high wear number engines, these numbers are as good as it gets imo.

The wear was dropping like a rock in this hemi tick engine, and the engine stopped ticking.



This is in non hemi tick engine..

 

[Hemi395]

Heres a UOA I did couple years ago. It was my cross country trip towing my camper from MA to UT and back. Went each way thru the Ike Gauntlet too. Even Blackstone was impressed.

 

[TunaFresh]

Thanks burla. The Red Line looks like it works well in these motors. How about Amsoil Signature 5w20?

 

[Burla]

Amsoil looks better then ever before with the increased moly. This is a hemi tick thread, and hasn't had enough positive results in that specific area to be a real solution for hemi tick, but Amsoil is the third most popular oil on the forum ahead of even redline and has real good fluids for every part in the ram that needs fluid.

 

[ToxicFire]

So I put redline 5w30 with a amsoil ea filter in the summer and I never had the tick but it did make the motor slightly less noisy. I only ran the oil here for around 4000km due to its winter season coming here and rather get it before it gets real cold.

For this change I went with redline 5w20 for winter and I have to say I think it sounds even a bit smoother,

Also one thing I noticed I have mds and with reline 5w30 it worked fine but with the 5w20 in it now the mds is way more smoother or sensitive it goes in and out of it a little more quickly.



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[Hemi395]

So I put redline 5w30 with a amsoil ea filter in the summer and I never had the tick but it did make the motor slightly less noisy. I only ran the oil here for around 4000km due to its winter season coming here and rather get it before it gets real cold.

For this change I went with redline 5w20 for winter and I have to say I think it sounds even a bit smoother,

Also one thing I noticed I have mds and with reline 5w30 it worked fine but with the 5w20 in it now the mds is way more smoother or sensitive it goes in and out of it a little more quickly.



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Good choice for a winter oil[emoji106]

Interestingly enough, I found it the exact opposite between RL 5w20 and 5w30. Before I shut off MDS, the 5w30 made it smoother than 5w20....

 

[Burla]

Bottom line whatever works even non redline products. the good news is there is enough info on ram forum that lubrication strategies are very helpful against the cam/lifter hemi tick battle.

 

[Gamedog]

Just changed out the Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 0/40 and replaced with Redline 5/40 and Royal Purple stock replacement filter. I will say the motor never really had a "tick" other than the standard valvetrain noise that tends to accompany the 6.4, but it sure is running quieter with the Redline.

I sent the Pennzoil off to Blackstone for a UOA and a TBN for ***** and gigs. Just over 7,200 miles on the oil change interval.

Will post up the analyses when they arrive.

 

[Larry Meares]

A couple months ago I had a roller bearing go out on a lifter and wipe out a lobe on my camshaft on my 2012 Ram 1500 with 5.7 Hemi. I changed my camshaft (used Mopar) and lifters (used aftermarket) out the first of August 2020. FU 2020!! It is quiet as a jaybird when cold, but ticks loudly when warmed up. It has ticked ever since the first warm up. I currently have 8400+ miles on the overhaul and the truck still runs great, MDS is good, and have no engine codes. Unfortunately, I have been running Red Line 5W-30 with RP filter for 4900+ miles with no positive results. Any other ideas? And why are the new lifters bleeding down so quickly?

 

[Burla]

You know history suggests some trucks with high mileage you just cant cure with lubrication. By far the largest group of unsuccessful hemi ticking rams with our redline treatment are high mileage rams. When you hold 3000rpm's for 3 minutes does it still tick right after? Also do you have 1/2 quart past full line on dip stick? I'm convinced what those trucks are dealing with is larger tolerances.

Maybe mos2 can do it, I don't know brother. Mos2 in theory will have a thicker moly plate, but there is the downside of falling out of suspension. I might be inclined to get a used oil analysis and see how bad it is. Maybe even try 5w40 redline, or 0w40 whatever plus lubegard. Might play with different filters as well.

If you go mos2, try 1/2 bottle first and give it 1500 miles.

So big question, was it ticking before the roller (needle) bearing went out?

 

[Larry Meares]

Burla If there was a tick before, I didn't hear it. I'm kinda OCD, so when I hear something, I'm like WTH? The truck has almost 183,000 on it and I definitely don't baby it or treat it like grandpa. I have not tried holding it at 3000 RPMs for 3 minutes. I will give it a shot. I do not have 1/2 quart past full line...this is the first I heard of such a thing.

I did try Liq Moly with no noticeable results before trying Red Line. I could try it again.

 

[Burla]

Yeah try 1/2 over, actually has been known to kill ticks, let me know on high rpm's also known to kill ticks eventhough temporary, and how long did you try liqui moly for as in miles, and did anything ever kill any tick at all, or was tick the same on both oils?

To be honest I cant even tell you how many times new lifters ticked after install, the number is very high and as a % of lifter jobs plenty of them tick. Just in the last 2-3 months this is at least the 5th time I heard about it.

 

[Rodney Belair]

What filter is everyone using??