Did Redline Oil work against your Hemi Tick?

[Burla]

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[Wornslick]

Redline oil has put a stop to my Hemi tick that I was having and I believe the engine runs a lot quieter also. It's Redline for me from now on!

 

[Burla]

Redline oil has put a stop to my Hemi tick that I was having and I believe the engine runs a lot quieter also. It's Redline for me from now on!

I see you voted, cool. We want success and failures to vote, so we can get accurate %'s. I tell people who redline didnt work for to vote as well. The good news for us, most of the time it is working.

How many miles did it take to kill your hemi tick?

 

[NJMOPAR]

Well, after almost 4 months/2000 miles with Redline 5w30 I still have a startup tick, but it quiets down by the time it comes off high idle.

I was given a bunch of Mobil 1 5w20 quarts a while back so I'm gonna try an experiment. Two of those and a 5gal jug of Royal Purple 10w30 with a topper of Lubegard. Purolator Boss PBL24651 filter also.
We'll see...

 

[Burla]

Vote that it didn't help in the redline poll, and thanks for the report.

Keep us posted, looking forward to hearing if your experiment works.

But most importantly, take note if there are any changes to the tick at all. Reason being, if there is no change, the issue most likely is mani bolts.

I left the votes changeable, so if you find out it was mani bolts, you can always change the vote.

 

[NJMOPAR]

I voted partially helped because I feel it did, once it's warmed up. If it changes with this mix I'll adjust my vote.

 

[Lyle Longboat]

Well I currently have roughly 5000 miles on this batch of Redline 5W30 with 10oz LG and this engine has been mouse quiet! Have to say when I first switched to 5w30 from 5W20 redline I had a very noticeable tick upon start up which I would have went back to 5W20, however thanks to Burla, he let me know this would happen and to stick it out. Now, the Truck doesn’t make any sounds on start up and is idling awesome. I’ll add a clip once my truck gets back into isolation next week. Oil
Change fast approaching (7000) and going to be sending in a sample to Blackstone.

 

[Burla]

Get tbn for extra ten bucks Lyle, maybe extend future oci's. thanks for sharing.

 

[Lyle Longboat]

I plan on it Burla! I’ll be posting in the Blackstone thread.

 

[BigLazer4u]

I just put redline 10-40 full synthetic in my truck, first time since I’ve owned that it did not have a half second engine tap on start up after sitting a while. I am amazed. Redline now has a new customer for life.

no more tick, and runs smother than 0-40 SRT oil.

 

[Burla]

I just put redline 10-40 full synthetic in my truck, first time since I’ve owned that it did not have a half second engine tap on start up after sitting a while. I am amazed. Redline now has a new customer for life.

no more tick, and runs smother than 0-40 SRT oil.

Join the club Big L, if I might be so bold as to make a recommendation, consider 5w40 instead of the 10w40, it is a base oil thing. NOACK and HTHS are the ultimate measure of hot performance, and ccs and pour points is the ultimate measure in cold performance, and cSt is the ultimate measure of operating temps. As you can see, 5w40 and 10w40 have the same exact measure of viscosity for hot performance noack and hths, however 5w40 has better cooler properties and 5w40 is a little thicker at operating temps. It mirrors guys on the board who have ran both like @U&A , 5w40 will be better at everything. Especially since your issue was start up, 5w40 will lubricate faster. Viscosity index tells you which has better base oil same brand.

5W40
Vis @ 100°C, CSt 15.6
Vis @ 40°C, CSt 97
Viscosity Index 174
CCS Viscosity, Poise, @ °C 58@-30
Pour Point, °C -45
Pour Point, °F -49
NOACK Evaporation Loss,1hr @ 482°F (250°C), % 6
HTHS Vis, CP @150°C, ASTM D4741 4.4

10W40
Vis @ 100°C, CSt 15.1
Vis @ 40°C, CSt 97
Viscosity Index 164
CCS Viscosity, Poise, @ °C 56@-25
Pour Point, °C -45
Pour Point, °F -49
NOACK Evaporation Loss,1hr @ 482°F (250°C), % 6
HTHS Vis, CP @150°C, ASTM D4741 4.4

 

[U&A]

Join the club Big L, if I might be so bold as to make a recommendation, consider 5w40 instead of the 10w40, it is a base oil thing. NOACK and HTHS are the ultimate measure of hot performance, and ccs and pour points is the ultimate measure in cold performance, and cSt is the ultimate measure of operating temps. As you can see, 5w40 and 10w40 have the same exact measure of viscosity for hot performance noack and hths, however 5w40 has better cooler properties and 5w40 is a little thicker at operating temps. It mirrors guys on the board who have ran both like @U&A , 5w40 will be better at everything. Especially since your issue was start up, 5w40 will lubricate faster. Viscosity index tells you which has better base oil same brand.

5W40
Vis @ 100°C, CSt 15.6
Vis @ 40°C, CSt 97
Viscosity Index 174
CCS Viscosity, Poise, @ °C 58@-30
Pour Point, °C -45
Pour Point, °F -49
NOACK Evaporation Loss,1hr @ 482°F (250°C), % 6
HTHS Vis, CP @150°C, ASTM D4741 4.4

10W40
Vis @ 100°C, CSt 15.1
Vis @ 40°C, CSt 97
Viscosity Index 164
CCS Viscosity, Poise, @ °C 56@-25
Pour Point, °C -45
Pour Point, °F -49
NOACK Evaporation Loss,1hr @ 482°F (250°C), % 6
HTHS Vis, CP @150°C, ASTM D4741 4.4

Spot on.

I tried
Amsoil 0W40
PUP 0W40
Redline 0W40, 10W40, and 5W40

That is the order they performed best for
Me.m with Redline 5W40 as the winner for the 6.4 right now. A few other guys are doing it to

Im going to try Redline 5W30 this winter.


Sent while firmly grasping my redline lubed RAM [emoji231]

 

[BigLazer4u]

Join the club Big L, if I might be so bold as to make a recommendation, consider 5w40 instead of the 10w40, it is a base oil thing. NOACK and HTHS are the ultimate measure of hot performance, and ccs and pour points is the ultimate measure in cold performance, and cSt is the ultimate measure of operating temps. As you can see, 5w40 and 10w40 have the same exact measure of viscosity for hot performance noack and hths, however 5w40 has better cooler properties and 5w40 is a little thicker at operating temps. It mirrors guys on the board who have ran both like @U&A , 5w40 will be better at everything. Especially since your issue was start up, 5w40 will lubricate faster. Viscosity index tells you which has better base oil same brand.

5W40
Vis @ 100°C, CSt 15.6
Vis @ 40°C, CSt 97
Viscosity Index 174
CCS Viscosity, Poise, @ °C 58@-30
Pour Point, °C -45
Pour Point, °F -49
NOACK Evaporation Loss,1hr @ 482°F (250°C), % 6
HTHS Vis, CP @150°C, ASTM D4741 4.4

10W40
Vis @ 100°C, CSt 15.1
Vis @ 40°C, CSt 97
Viscosity Index 164
CCS Viscosity, Poise, @ °C 56@-25
Pour Point, °C -45
Pour Point, °F -49
NOACK Evaporation Loss,1hr @ 482°F (250°C), % 6
HTHS Vis, CP @150°C, ASTM D4741 4.4

I will switch to the 5w 40 next oil change, thank you for the advice. I get a lot from this forum and it’s all been helpful.

 

[Burla]

@Jtblackram found an article that needs to be in these additive threads, both additives or oils with additives. The conclusion of this expert is that the low additive api oils we use itself is the cause of hemi tick, or at a minimum is a part of it. I put in syn thread but you know how stuff gets lost over there. This should encourage more additive testing for hemi tick. If you needed more validation for a reason to run Redline oil, or poor man's redline aka lubegard biotech, this would certainly be the proof you needed. I mean on top of the work done on ram forum with the %'s of success and long term uoa's, it would be hard to conclude that random shelf oils are good enough for the hemi.

I am to the point where it would be irresponsible for ram owners to not use one of those two products, or perhaps another similar product that has eluded us to this point. The fella said lack of additives, and you add that opinion to the success rate of those who add more additives, just makes this hemi tick picture crystal clear.

 

[Jtblackram]

@Jtblackram found an article that needs to be in these additive threads, both additives or oils with additives. The conclusion of this expert is that the low additive api oils we use itself is the cause of hemi tick, or at a minimum is a part of it. I put in syn thread but you know how stuff gets lost over there. This should encourage more additive testing for hemi tick. If you needed more validation for a reason to run Redline oil, or poor man's redline aka lubegard biotech, this would certainly be the proof you needed. I mean on top of the work done on ram forum with the %'s of success and long term uoa's, it would be hard to conclude that random shelf oils are good enough for the hemi.

I am to the point where it would be irresponsible for ram owners to not use one of those two products, or perhaps another similar product that has eluded us to this point. The fella said lack of additives, and you add that opinion to the success rate of those who add more additives, just makes this hemi tick picture crystal clear.

Fwiw the lubegard + pennzoil platinum has been working very well for me so far, i hear other 5.7s that cant be much older than mine chattering away at startup and such, mine is quiet as a mouse so id reccomend that heavily

 

[AE5548]

I just switched from Mobil 1 5W20 to Redline 5W20. I used to get the tick and lifter noise on start up that would usually clear up pretty quick. Since switching to Redline truck starts up with no lifter noise at all.

 

[Burla]

I just switched from Mobil 1 5W20 to Redline 5W20. I used to get the tick and lifter noise on start up that would usually clear up pretty quick. Since switching to Redline truck starts up with no lifter noise at all.

Funny thing nobody but us believes you so you better just hang out at ram forum from here on out. How it is possible that the same viscosity oil kills a tick that the other oil had? Just more proof it is the additives. Keep us updated, and at some point you might want to come over to hemi honey 5w30 redline. Congrats...

 

[Travis8352]

Funny thing nobody but us believes you so you better just hang out at ram forum from here on out. How it is possible that the same viscosity oil kills a tick that the other oil had? Just more proof it is the additives. Keep us updated, and at some point you might want to come over to hemi honey 5w30 redline. Congrats...

It really confuses me why no one would believe that redline kills a tick

 

[Burla]

Yes there were at least 4 of us who tried to spread the word, very surprised nobody wanted this info in the forums. Of course with the exception of the guys who ended up coming to ram forum because of it, a happy group with quiet hemi's.

 

[MoPowered]

I use either Redline or Amsoil, and I’ve been using Amsoil more as my local speed shop runs out of redline during track season. I do also run Liquid moly or “molyb” as it’s a proven additive every oil change, 72k and no tic, “knock on my wooden head,”