Fog And High Beams

[GrahamC]

I did a search and found a few posts, most were older, is the definitive answer to having the fog and high beam lights on at the same time still the Alpha software?? Or has someone developed a plug and play?

Thanks!!
Graham

 

[miles01]

I did it with the ALFABDO program

 

[kad]

I did a search and found a few posts, most were older, is the definitive answer to having the fog and high beam lights on at the same time still the Alpha software?? Or has someone developed a plug and play?

Thanks!!
Graham

Still Alpha.

If you don't have it and that's all you want to do, there might be someone close to you willing to turn them on for you.

-K

 

[turkeybird56]

Depends upon what state U R in. In TX, it is illegal to have more than (4) lights on from the front. IE., Low/High and Fogs, which is why TX trucks are configured for the Fog lights to turn off on 4 lamp headlight trucks when the high beams are turned on. I do not know on other states.

 

[GrahamC]

Still Alpha.

If you don't have it and that's all you want to do, there might be someone close to you willing to turn them on for you.

-K

Thanks! Actually all I want to do is the light thing and turn on windows down and up with the remote. I would pay off someone close by can do it. I'm in Dahlonega, Ga, BTW

 

[crash68]

Depends upon what state U R in. In TX, it is illegal to have more than (4) lights on from the front. IE., Low/High and Fogs, which is why TX trucks are configured for the Fog lights to turn off on 4 lamp headlight trucks when the high beams are turned on. I do not know on other states.

It's actually a federal mandate, about the four light rule. Some states do mandate that any aux lights have covers while on the road.

 

[brian42]

Thanks! Actually all I want to do is the light thing and turn on windows down and up with the remote. I would pay off someone close by can do it. I'm in Dahlonega, Ga, BTW

You can't do the 'global' windows up/down in the DT trucks currently.

The settings are in the BCM but they don't do anything.

 

[mikeru]

Thanks! Actually all I want to do is the light thing and turn on windows down and up with the remote. I would pay off someone close by can do it. I'm in Dahlonega, Ga, BTW

You can't do the 'global' windows up/down in the DT trucks currently.

The settings are in the BCM but they don't do anything.

You can open and close the two front windows using the key fob if you have the Tazer DT.

https://www.zautomotive.com/product/z_tzr_dt/#accessories

 

[GrahamC]

You can open and close the two front windows using the key fob if you have the Tazer DT.

https://www.zautomotive.com/product/z_tzr_dt/#accessories

Thanks! I just got the 2021, what does DT stand for?

 

[crash68]

Thanks! I just got the 2021, what does DT stand for?

DT is the body style of the truck, it is to differentiate between the two different modules. The Tazer Ram version is for the Gen4 DS body trucks.

 

[corneileous]

It's actually a federal mandate, about the four light rule. Some states do mandate that any aux lights have covers while on the road.

I was gonna say, every vehicle I’ve ever driven that’s had OEM fog lights has always been set up to kill the fogs when the highbeams were switched on so, I’ve never heard of vehicles being made or programmed a certain way for a particular state.

But I’m curious… Is the law really that good in those particular states that say you’re not supposed to have more than four lights on at a time on the front of your vehicle able to tell whether or not you actually have more than four lights on? My 2018, being that it has a separate low beam bulb from the high beam bulb, it keeps the lowbeams on when the brights are switched on but on my old 2008 being that it was just a one-bulb headlight, only the brights would be on by themselves so technically, the law shouldn’t really pertain to that truck because just the highbeams and the fog lights is within the four-light maximum.…

But not only that, what about the vehicles that are actually equipped with driving lights, that are designed to be used in conjunction with your highbeams? From what I understand, other than the states that just limit you on how many lights you can have on at a given time, there are some states that are real particular about running your fog lights when it’s not foggy and being that the fact that your fog lights really are designed to be used with your low beams, I think that’s pretty much the reason why on most of your factory built cars, they come equipped with fog lights and not driving lights which is why they always turn off when the highbeams are switched on.


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[crash68]

I was gonna say, every vehicle I’ve ever driven that’s had OEM fog lights has always been set up to kill the fogs when the highbeams were switched on so, I’ve never heard of vehicles being made or programmed a certain way for a particular state.

But I’m curious… Is the law really that good in those particular states that say you’re not supposed to have more than four lights on at a time on the front of your vehicle able to tell whether or not you actually have more than four lights on?

All the vehicles are regulated by a federal mandate that was wrote back in the 60's. It still mandates vehicles have a high and low beam. There is several auto manufacturers trying to get that changed so they can use some of the advanced headlight technology available. There is beam forming headlights that can move the light away from on-coming traffic, show vehicle information, and even integrate into GPS navigation to point where you need to turn.
At the state level it all come down to how well the local PD enforce the laws, a lot of laws people don't even know about.

 

[GrahamC]

DT is the body style of the truck, it is to differentiate between the two different modules. The Tazer Ram version is for the Gen4 DS body trucks.

Thank you!

 

[No Tyme]

In Michigan nothing is enforced including the off road lights that are added. I dislike the Ford trucks that have 4 lights illuminated on the road, some even having fog lights below the front bumper. I actually talked with a deputy about one Ford in particular who must have had LED's installed as I darn near ran off the road trying to see where I was going.
ANYMORE law enforcement is nothing more that maids who come to clean up the mess. May be the current climate that face law enforcement but I remember when I was young they had more balls that todays LEO's.

 

[demonram]

Depends upon what state U R in. In TX, it is illegal to have more than (4) lights on from the front. IE., Low/High and Fogs, which is why TX trucks are configured for the Fog lights to turn off on 4 lamp headlight trucks when the high beams are turned on. I do not know on other states.

Each state may have their own laws about fogs on with high beams. In Tennessee, it's illegal to have fog lights on when high beams are on.

 

[Ironhead3]

Corneileous - you are right on with the description of the lights. The manufacturers call them fog lights, not driving lights. They are made, in most cases - there are always deviations - to be on with your low beams only, and go out when you are on high beams. Actual driving lights are useless in fog as all they do is light up the fog right in front of you, and foglights are made to shine low and not reflect off the fog

 

[miles01]

Each state may have their own laws about fogs on with high beams. In Tennessee, it's illegal to have fog lights on when high beams are on.

its the same in Canada.
Each province has it own laws.
I live in Alberta and the light laws are not enforced at all by the RCMP, highway patrol sheriffs, or local police.

Alberta law = two extra lights below the corner of the high beam but must only operate when the high beams are on (one light bar is one light, so you can have two light bars).
Fog light can only operate with the low beams or without the headlights at night and must be below the headlight.

In BC the extra lights are not allowed at all and must be covered to prevent from using them on the roads. BC is strictly enforces this with the RCMP and local police.

I used ALFAbdo to set my fog lights to stay on when using high beam. My light bar also turns on when I have high beams on (this is legal in Alberta)

 

[Jaywoo]

To actually answer the question, yes, AlphaOBD will do this. You'll need something to bypass the Security module that they have been putting into them since 2018. I used a Z automotive bypass. No cutting or stripping of any wires, just plug and play. The security module is kinda right next to the OBD port.

This is using the windows based AlphaOBD
Connect to the body control module (DT My2020 Powernet works)
Go to Active Diagnostics
Scroll all the way down to "Car configuration change"
In find setting, type in Fog
For CBC Features-Front Fog lamp dropout enabled
Change the setting to no
Click start and then next when prompted.


That's it. Fogs will stay on with the high beams.

 

[miles01]

Alberta calls their highway patrol “Sheriffs”
These are pictures of the highway patrol car and motorcycles they use.

 

[corneileous]

Each state may have their own laws about fogs on with high beams. In Tennessee, it's illegal to have fog lights on when high beams are on.

See, why is that? Why does something like that even matter because there shouldn’t be anybody in front of you or coming at you if your brights are on.

But I’m curious; does that refer to actual fog lights, or driving lights?


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