How offroad worthy is the RAM 1500?

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Thanks for the quick reply Kurek. I also appreciate your expanded explanation of the all the systems.

My older 2011 2500 doesn't have all those items, may save for the LSD in the rear. I've been wanting to install manual locking front hubs on my rig to save unneeded or unwanted wear and tear on the front driveline when not in 4X4. I also want to upgrade my front suspension to a softer CARLEY (SPL) with a 2 inch lift for greater travel clearance and better ride. Now to only win that illusive Lottery.
 

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The most I've done is running on the beach on the Outer Banks of North Carolina. With regular tires I've plowed through the sand, both dry and wet and never got stuck, BUT I've kept moving when I was in the loose stuff. I suppose it has something to do with skill too. We had a BALL searching for the wild horses.
 

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BLD has been standard in any Jeep Wrangler available from 2007 and up (JK's and UP). TJs didn't have it they used mechanical LSD until Jeep decided to let the electronics do their thing.
Don't see why RAM will start using BLD in 2013 when the current 4th Gen starts in 2009. I can't find any documentation from RAM stating the start of the feature officially , but ESC became a standard in 2500's and 3500s from 2013 according to Wikipedia so I'll guess BLD may be available for them in 2013 and should have been available in the 1500 from 2009.

Full size trucks can offroad and the RAM 1500 is not an exception. I'll be adding couple more skids to my RAM and join these dudes since they're local here in Socal.
Look at our big bother more capable PW 2500 in action, how about the F350. If they can turn in Calico a 1500 can make a u turn :) Even a Tundra is getting it done, which is more in line with a 1500. Too wide for what trail ? :Lol. Have some Guevos, she won't bite. 4x4 vehicles are more capable than their drivers if you let them show you.
 
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I used to own a 1988 Jeep Cherokee Pioneer that had the 4.0 Liter Inline 6 (pre-High Output). I loved it! It was a very capable off roader. The engine was strong from 0 to 75 MPH and crawling over rocks or up steep inclines was no problem. I lived in Boise, ID at the time I owned it and 4-wheeled the Owyhee Mtns west of Boise and the hills and mountains north and east of Boise as well. I really regret trading it away. It was one of the best 4-wheelers I've owned.


That's awesome yeah I was always impressed with the XJ's off road...I never owned one but I off roaded with quite a few over the years. Only Jeep I ever had was a TJ that I destroyed within a few years of owning it, but I certainly got my moneys worth of entertainment out of it.
 

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Thanks for the quick reply Kurek. I also appreciate your expanded explanation of the all the systems.

My older 2011 2500 doesn't have all those items, may save for the LSD in the rear. I've been wanting to install manual locking front hubs on my rig to save unneeded or unwanted wear and tear on the front driveline when not in 4X4. I also want to upgrade my front suspension to a softer CARLEY (SPL) with a 2 inch lift for greater travel clearance and better ride. Now to only win that illusive Lottery.

would also like a set of locking hubs on my truck, only set can find is some by The Ram Man, they seem like a good idea but if a front hub bearing fails you would have to get a new bearing hub machined with splines to replace it. there is not too much parasitic drag on the front, but would be nice to not be turning the front CV joints and spider gears when not needed.
 

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I love both of my trucks but it's obvious which one I'm taking whenever the pavement runs out...


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It is sweet in off-road. Here's why. Trucks I have driven in the past were really bumping swing left and right on an uneven path or basically offroad. Then got RAM 1500 sport and I was wondering why it was much smoother. First I thought being a new truck. Turns out the RAM wheels are independent. The back wheels are not joined on the same shaft so they absorbed the bump or work independently. One can only tell the difference if one have driven trucks before so you will enjoy offroad with your RAM. JUST watch for branches and sticks because they will scratch the paint. Yea I was really sad on that part.

*** Correction... go with what Kurek said below.
 
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. Turns out the RAM wheels are independent. The back wheels are not joined on the same shaft so they absorbed the bump or work independently. .

The front wheels are independent. The rear is still a beam axle; however it is on coil springs which tend to be a lot smoother than leaf springs.
 

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But how do you really feel? :happy175:

I know a few people who foolishly bought the modern Cherokee, all of them have come down with severe cases of buyer's remorse. Conversely, before my JK and a few TJ's , I had a great XJ, mild build that always served me well.

*raises hand*

I'm in that group. I pulled into the dealership with a limping Equinox and needed to walk away with a new vehicle, so I settled on a '14 Cherokee Trailhawk with 24k miles on it for $24k. It was great for traveling and ran great when it didn't have problems. I put quite a few miles on it, but 2 trans recalls and 2 oil filter housing leaks later I traded that POS in for a Rebel. I've always wanted a Hemi Jeep JK, but I don't have that kinda scratch, so this is a great bit of compromise.
 

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Turns out the RAM wheels are independent. The back wheels are not joined on the same shaft so they absorbed the bump or work independently. One can only tell the difference if one have driven trucks before so you will enjoy offroad with your RAM.

I take it that you've never looked under your truck? It's definitely a solid rear axle, unless you split it in two but I think you'd have felt that sort of impact.
 

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As was mentioned previously the best 4x4 is only as good as the tires you run on it.
The most badass 4x4 I ever owned was a 1990 5.9L Ramcharger.
That thing was a beast, but when I had my summer (street treads) on it wasn't worth a crap.
My Laramie had 800 miles on it when I swapped to my Trail Hogs and what a difference that made!
Never taken it rock crawling, but otherwise for mud, snow and driving across mucky cornfields and logging roads it's been great...
 

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I have a 2010 Ram 1500 2 1/2" front leveling added Detroit TrueTrac LSD lots of mods. We like to explore dirt roads and for a 2wd it does real good. I learned how to drive in a '53 Willys Overland station wagon flat head 4cyl so after off roading decided to do the Scorpion bed liner on the exterior with automotive coloring added to the material with metal flake added to the silver. Top is before bottom after ScorpionLM2_6742 (3).JPG LM2_7140 (3).JPG
 

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Hey All, first time post here. I wanna say thanks to all the great posters (and the humorous ones, of course) - I've learned quite a bit about these trucks reading these over the past year or so... This one got my attention in the title when cleaning out email. I had the same question in mind for some time!

I am new to this world (had a couple Cherokees years ago, but this is my first real truck (I know, good choice :))). I wanted to work and haul stuff when needed with it, cruise in style and comfort, and not get stuck in the snow... and maybe take it off the pavement on occasion. That is, I'll likely never lose the bug, but I have an awful habit of breaking my toys, and this is my daily driver... plus I like the paint the way it is.

Anyway, to the OP's Q: I had to bring this puppy back to the Maine dealer where I bought it (about 280 miles from home) over last Christmas. When it was close to time to leave there was talk of weather, and there was a break for only a day... after the freezing-rain storm passed early in the morning... you can guess what happened next. Yup, the highways were not cleared, they could not keep up, it just kept coming, and the cars in the ditches were like a bad dream or something. There was no stopping on those hills (I knew I'd be risking it with any false moves whatsoever). I started sliding sideways for a few seconds, looking down the steep slope that went back a couple hundred yards, with a sudden stop at some large rocks/ledge (feeling like an episode of Ice Road Truckers about now), just about crapping my pants, with the Mrs, the kids, and the dogs all on board... I had it in Auto the whole time - I just let up on the throttle, and the truck found it's way. Those hills are brutal, and it was the ugliest, giant sheet of sheer ice I've ever seen, and my Ram got us all home safely. Never lost traction again (took me 7 hours, lol).

It gives rise to what many here have mentioned - tires and skill make all the difference! But I'm a firm believer in whatever this truck has under the chassis... Leading to a question I have.

I saw the mention of 4WD Auto vs High vs Low. My selector specifically says "Lock", "Auto" and "Low". Is that the same thing? It's a '13 Laramie Longhorn, if that helps. I felt like the Lock mode grabbed fully and immediately when I had to call on it another time (damn New England weather).

I had pulled into a parking lot with 10" or so of fresh snow. I pulled in and stopped, stuck it in Lock and drove forward 40 ft and then backed into my spot, another 20 ft, and walked through it like it was nobody's business. The kicker was that there was a sheet of ice under all that snow. Yup, found out the hard way after the plow truck came, cleared the lower lot, and left a 3 ft snow bank in front of my truck while I was working. Had to do some shoveling, but I didn't need a tow :)

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I have to say these tires are getting it for me so far, but after reading this thread I went and checked into them some more. They claim to have some improved sidewall protection/armor/whatever, but idk, I'm guessing these are likely not a good choice to take on any rocky trails (not crawling, just occasional small boulders)?

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One more question: I saw one comment earlier about soft sand capabilities. Can anyone speak to the general consensus on that? Not much for trails around here, but a buddy has some access to some private land with trails... "You just have to get across the big patch of sugar sand" he tells me, lol

Thanks again!
 

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Hey All, first time post here. I wanna say thanks to all the great posters (and the humorous ones, of course) - I've learned quite a bit about these trucks reading these over the past year or so... This one got my attention in the title when cleaning out email. I had the same question in mind for some time!

I am new to this world (had a couple Cherokees years ago, but this is my first real truck (I know, good choice :))). I wanted to work and haul stuff when needed with it, cruise in style and comfort, and not get stuck in the snow... and maybe take it off the pavement on occasion. That is, I'll likely never lose the bug, but I have an awful habit of breaking my toys, and this is my daily driver... plus I like the paint the way it is.

Anyway, to the OP's Q: I had to bring this puppy back to the Maine dealer where I bought it (about 280 miles from home) over last Christmas. When it was close to time to leave there was talk of weather, and there was a break for only a day... after the freezing-rain storm passed early in the morning... you can guess what happened next. Yup, the highways were not cleared, they could not keep up, it just kept coming, and the cars in the ditches were like a bad dream or something. There was no stopping on those hills (I knew I'd be risking it with any false moves whatsoever). I started sliding sideways for a few seconds, looking down the steep slope that went back a couple hundred yards, with a sudden stop at some large rocks/ledge (feeling like an episode of Ice Road Truckers about now), just about crapping my pants, with the Mrs, the kids, and the dogs all on board... I had it in Auto the whole time - I just let up on the throttle, and the truck found it's way. Those hills are brutal, and it was the ugliest, giant sheet of sheer ice I've ever seen, and my Ram got us all home safely. Never lost traction again (took me 7 hours, lol).

It gives rise to what many here have mentioned - tires and skill make all the difference! But I'm a firm believer in whatever this truck has under the chassis... Leading to a question I have.

I saw the mention of 4WD Auto vs High vs Low. My selector specifically says "Lock", "Auto" and "Low". Is that the same thing? It's a '13 Laramie Longhorn, if that helps. I felt like the Lock mode grabbed fully and immediately when I had to call on it another time (damn New England weather).

I had pulled into a parking lot with 10" or so of fresh snow. I pulled in and stopped, stuck it in Lock and drove forward 40 ft and then backed into my spot, another 20 ft, and walked through it like it was nobody's business. The kicker was that there was a sheet of ice under all that snow. Yup, found out the hard way after the plow truck came, cleared the lower lot, and left a 3 ft snow bank in front of my truck while I was working. Had to do some shoveling, but I didn't need a tow :)

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I have to say these tires are getting it for me so far, but after reading this thread I went and checked into them some more. They claim to have some improved sidewall protection/armor/whatever, but idk, I'm guessing these are likely not a good choice to take on any rocky trails (not crawling, just occasional small boulders)?

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One more question: I saw one comment earlier about soft sand capabilities. Can anyone speak to the general consensus on that? Not much for trails around here, but a buddy has some access to some private land with trails... "You just have to get across the big patch of sugar sand" he tells me, lol

Thanks again!

So I just recently realized with disappointment that the 4 Auto vs 4 Locked issue is very real. The weird clutch issue on the BW44-44 Is just the worst design ever. 4 Lock should mean LOCKED.

BRANDON-w makes a switch to force 4 Lock to engage fully. On my list of things to get as funds allow.
 
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