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Just to be clear , anything round and rubber is better than the OEM Goodyears, yes literally anything, including condoms will have better everything than the OEM junk tires.

I don't know if the Fortitudes are as poor as the SRA's were.
The stock wranglers that came on my 01 Dakota were a great tire - but they weren't the SRA type.
Same with my 16 Ram, the stock Wranglers were a great tire - but again they weren't the SRA.

The Wrangler SRA was chosen for quiet ride, soft ride, mpg and IMO a borderline SUV tire, let alone a truck tire - but for people who use their truck as a SUV with a bed, probably not a bad tire. Let's face it, the Ram 1500 is known for having the best ride among the trucks and that tire helped that reputation.
 

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I don't know if the Fortitudes are as poor as the SRA's were.
The stock wranglers that came on my 01 Dakota were a great tire - but they weren't the SRA type.
Same with my 16 Ram, the stock Wranglers were a great tire - but again they weren't the SRA.

The Wrangler SRA was chosen for quiet ride, soft ride, mpg and IMO a borderline SUV tire, let alone a truck tire - but for people who use their truck as a SUV with a bed, probably not a bad tire. Let's face it, the Ram 1500 is known for having the best ride among the trucks and that tire helped that reputation.

I’ve driven every Goodyear that says wrangler on the side in my work fleet. Only ones they got right in my opinion were the AT/S, duratracs and the mt/r.

I do want to try the “trail runners” though.
 

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I had good luck with the RT/S on my Dakota.
My Ram came with E-load Wrangler All-Terrain Adventure with Kevlar tires - they seemed pretty decent but to be honest, I went from those 17's to 20's before long.
 

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I don't know if the Fortitudes are as poor as the SRA's were.
The stock wranglers that came on my 01 Dakota were a great tire - but they weren't the SRA type.
Same with my 16 Ram, the stock Wranglers were a great tire - but again they weren't the SRA.

The Wrangler SRA was chosen for quiet ride, soft ride, mpg and IMO a borderline SUV tire, let alone a truck tire - but for people who use their truck as a SUV with a bed, probably not a bad tire. Let's face it, the Ram 1500 is known for having the best ride among the trucks and that tire helped that reputation.
Pretty much right on statement. My RAM has been used exclusively as described above for 41,000 miles on seven long road trips.
Frankly, I have felt no pain using the OEM SR-A's. They do exactly what they are designed to do. Having said that I will be changing brands, but I will take the SR-A"s to 50,000 miles first.
 

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Another vote for Michelin LTX!!
15,000 on mine and they are still like new, Quite smooth ride on the black top and great for snow and loose sand on the two tracks gravel roads getting to and from my hunting spots in the National forest
 

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I totally agree about the OEM Goodyears. They have VERY poor traction on anything other than dry pavement. I did run mine out to about 40K+ and then swapped them out for Kumho Crugen HT51 in the stock 275/60R20 size. I chose them because they were the only non-LT tire with the 3 Peak Mountain Snow Flake rating. I also wanted to stay with a P-rated tire to keep the weight down. That is the real enemy for ride and especially braking and acceleration. It didn't hurt that they're not all that expensive (certainly way less than the Michelins).

The improvement in wet traction was astounding and they are just as quiet as the Wranglers. I have only experienced snow with these a few times but they seemed to provide quite good traction on plowed roads with snow and slush.

I don't tow often so I can't comment too much on that. I did tow a moderate trailer that I rented to transport my Kubota tractor. Total weight was probably about 4,500 to 5,000 lbs. The RAM (probably any RAM) had no problem with that weight.

One upgrade I can recommend highly is the Falcon Tow/Haul shocks I installed recently. Not cheap but a huge improvement over the stock shocks and you can adjust the front height from stock to +1.5" to +2" (I chose the +1.5"). They also have three settings for the rear shocks that you change with a dial on the shock. 1 is for normal and 3 is for towing/hauling. 2 is moderate tow/haul and I used that when I was transporting the tractor. It worked very well but I don't really have a good comparison for towing with the standard shocks.

All of that put together looks like this:

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Basically, for all around use and keeping all the good things about the stock truck as far as ride and handling but upgrading snow traction and towing capability, I think this might be a fairly good compromise.

Just my opinion.
 
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I have a BigHorn and purchased 20 inch rims. I have 18's right now with factory rubber but I'm trying to reduce a squirrely feel I get when towing my TT.

So bought 20 inch rims, and need suggestions for a tire for towing. Prioritize on this:
- quiet
- ride well
- decent all weather (snow included)
- handle 5000 pounds TT
then other stuff like:
- mpg
- long life
- off road traction

So I'm not concerned about long life, but prefer something that can tow without going to a full blown 3500 rated tire that jars me over every bump.

Described another way; my current/factory 18 inch Goodyear Wrangler tires are exactly what I'm looking for, except I need 20 inch with an increased towing ability. Maybe going to a larger rim will help just by itself? Less squishy sidewall?

Is there such a beast?
I swapped my original Goodyear SRAs at 47K with probably about 20% of the tread on them. Installed Goodyear Wrangler Trailrunner ATs on Black Friday. So far super pleased with them. Very smooth and quiet on the highway, just had some snow over the past week and they seem to perform very well. 50K warranty and not terribly expensive. Not terribly aggressive but for my needs they seem just about right as I am mostly highway and maybe 10% off pavement. https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tire...=2017&autoModel=1500 4wd&autoModClar=Crew Cab
 

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I swapped my original Goodyear SRAs at 47K with probably about 20% of the tread on them. Installed Goodyear Wrangler Trailrunner ATs on Black Friday. So far super pleased with them. Very smooth and quiet on the highway, just had some snow over the past week and they seem to perform very well. 50K warranty and not terribly expensive. Not terribly aggressive but for my needs they seem just about right as I am mostly highway and maybe 10% off pavement. https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Wrangler+TrailRunner+AT&partnum=76SR0WTRAT&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&autoMake=RAM&autoYear=2017&autoModel=1500 4wd&autoModClar=Crew Cab
Those have an aggressive look but they do not have the severe snow rating that even the Crugen HT51 all-seasons have so it may not be the best choice for snow use.
 

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I’ve driven every Goodyear that says wrangler on the side in my work fleet. Only ones they got right in my opinion were the AT/S, duratracs and the mt/r.

I do want to try the “trail runners” though.
I have a set of Trailrunners and like them so far. Good all around tire if you are not expecting them to be a hard core off road tire. So far they seem pretty good in wet, ice and snow. Light years ahead of the SRAs and not priced too bad. https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tire...=2017&autoModel=1500 4wd&autoModClar=Crew Cab
 

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I have a BigHorn and purchased 20 inch rims. I have 18's right now with factory rubber but I'm trying to reduce a squirrely feel I get when towing my TT.

So bought 20 inch rims, and need suggestions for a tire for towing. Prioritize on this:
- quiet
- ride well
- decent all weather (snow included)
- handle 5000 pounds TT
then other stuff like:
- mpg
- long life
- off road traction

So I'm not concerned about long life, but prefer something that can tow without going to a full blown 3500 rated tire that jars me over every bump.

Described another way; my current/factory 18 inch Goodyear Wrangler tires are exactly what I'm looking for, except I need 20 inch with an increased towing ability. Maybe going to a larger rim will help just by itself? Less squishy sidewall?

Is there such a beast?

I'd be looking at the Cooper Discoverer AT3 4S light truck tire or the Cooper AT3 XLT ... The 4S is an all weather tire and is snow rated and the XLT is an all terrain tire also snow rated ... They both come in 20 inch ... I had 20 inch Cooper all weathers on both of my previous RAM's and never had a problem ...
 
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I'd be looking at the Cooper Discoverer AT3 4S light truck tire or the Cooper AT3 XLT ... The 4S is an all weather tire and is snow rated and the XLT is an all terrain tire also snow rated ... They both come in 20 inch ... I had 20 inch Cooper all weathers on both of my previous RAM's and never had a problem ...

I had At3's on my Jeep and they were quite bad. Very noisy (especially after half life), poor traction in the snow. They looked awesome and did great offroad though, I just want a street/tow tire.
 

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I totally agree about the OEM Goodyears. They have VERY poor traction on anything other than dry pavement. I did run mine out to about 40K+ and then swapped them out for Kumho Crugen HT51 in the stock 275/60R20 size. I chose them because they were the only non-LT tire with the 3 Peak Mountain Snow Flake rating. I also wanted to stay wit a P-rated tire to keep the weight down. That is the real enemy for ride and especially braking and acceleration. It didn't hurt that they're not all that expensive (certainly way less than the Michelins).

The improvement in wet traction was astounding and they are just as quiet as the Wranglers. I have only experienced snow with these a few times but they seemed to provide quite good traction on plowed roads with snow and slush.

I don't tow often so I can't comment too much on that. I did tow a moderate trailer that I rented to transport my Kubota tractor. Total weight was probably about 4,500 to 5,000 lbs. The RAM (probably any RAM) had no problem with that weight.

One upgrade I can recommend highly is the Falcon Tow/Haul shocks I installed recently. Not cheap but a huge improvement over the stock shocks and you can adjust the front height from stock to +1.5" to +2" (I chose the +1.5"). They also have three settings for the rear shocks that you change with a dial on the shock. 1 is for normal and 3 is for towing/hauling. 2 is moderate tow/haul and I used that when I was transporting the tractor. It worked very well but I don't really have a good comparison for towing with the standard shocks.

All of that put together looks like this:

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Basically, for all around use and keeping all the good things about the stock truck as far as ride and handling but upgrading snow traction and towing capability, I think this might be a fairly good compromise.

Just my opinion.

Hey JMC...Thanks a bunch for this post. I'm ready to replace the SRAs, and have been leaning toward the Kumho Crugen HT51 in the stock 275/60R20 size due to price, reviews, and 3PMSF. I keep reading the tire threads hoping to come across someone with real life experience with these tires. Your post has sealed the deal for me. The best part is I can now stop reading tire posts. LOL!
 

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Glad I could help. I know what you mean. I tend to go down all sorts of "rabbit holes" when I start looking at upgrades and it always seems like I can't quite find the info I need. I think you'll really like the Kumho tires. Thaks for the shout out.
 

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I had At3's on my Jeep and they were quite bad. Very noisy (especially after half life), poor traction in the snow. They looked awesome and did great offroad though, I just want a street/tow tire.

I should have mentioned the Cooper's I had were the Discoverer AT/W ... Loved them ... I see you live in Hamilton, so if you're interested, check your local Canadian Tire Store and see if they still carry them, as that's where I bought mine
 
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