Oil Filter Thread

[Ramerica]

What's the model number on that small fram? Because I also took a picture comparing the Fram XG10060 (what actually "fits" our hemi's in the online catalogs, comparable in size to RP 10-48) and the Fram XG2, and there are only 8 holes in the XG10060:

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Might be the middle size, XG 10575

 

[HEMIMANN]

Looks like XG4607

 

[Burla]

What's the model number on that small fram? Because I also took a picture comparing the Fram XG10060 (what actually "fits" our hemi's in the online catalogs, comparable in size to RP 10-48) and the Fram XG2, and there are only 8 holes in the XG10060:

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I will see if I can make it out, ask hemihustlin. Brian was correct.. can that fit a hemi?

 

[ramffml]

I will see if I can make it out, ask hemihustlin. Brian was correct.. can that fit a hemi?

As far as I can see, the XG4967 is even smaller than the XG-10060 (and RP 10-48). I wouldn't use it?

FRAM ULTRA SYNTHETIC™ OIL FILTER

FRAM Ultra Synthetic® oil filters are engineered for drivers who are looking for ultimate performance and engine protection. Its dual-layered synthetic blend media provides 99%+ filtering efficiency and protects up to 20,000 miles. The silicone anti-drain

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FRAM ULTRA SYNTHETIC™ OIL FILTER

FRAM Ultra Synthetic® oil filters are engineered for drivers who are looking for ultimate performance and engine protection. Its dual-layered synthetic blend media provides 99%+ filtering efficiency and protects up to 20,000 miles. The silicone anti-drain

www.fram.com

 

[Burla]

Sounds like most vehicles that use that are toyota, I wonder if toyota specs those holes? It would be nice if fca would have done the same, SEEING HOW HEMIS ARE SO FINICKY.

It is all about the thread size, it either fits or not, if it does with all those holes it would be better then 10-48 imo.

 

[Burla]

Looks like amazon is out of 10-48, maybe we were right a couple years ago when we said RP is leaving the filter business. Damn I gonna have to spend another hundred or two on the wifes filter lest those go out as well. That would suck.

 

[ramffml]

For me, if the 20-820 isn't available I think the obvious choice is the Fram XG2. Same size as the 20-820, has better filtration (20 microns vs 25), and is even listed in the Fram database as fitting various 5.7 hemis like the challenger/charger/300/GC etc, so I'm no longer worried about the small-ish size of the holes on top.

FRAM ULTRA SYNTHETIC™ OIL FILTER

FRAM Ultra Synthetic® oil filters are engineered for drivers who are looking for ultimate performance and engine protection. Its dual-layered synthetic blend media provides 99%+ filtering efficiency and protects up to 20,000 miles. The silicone anti-drain

www.fram.com

 

[HEMIMANN]

It smells of a corporate takeover.

My corporate stench meter is fairly well calibrated, having been through 3 of them.

 

[Burla]

Royal Purple is everywhere despite not having true performance if you believe the stat sheets. I have to imagine they would be a pretty desirable asset, their profit margin is insane. Is there anything more expensive on the walmart shelf? Must give them extra money as they have shelf space in most auto stores as well, very few carry redline, but if you believe their stat sheets redline actually make something different. Are we all not surprised 66 couldnt expand redline?

 

[Burla]

Lets pool our money get some green dye and order a ton of bulk oil and call it regal green? I get to design our filter line.

 

[HEMIMANN]

I'll take out a patent on 0W-0 aqueous oil.

 

[Burla]

As long as it is green and we can sell it 300% margin, I concur.

They mis spelled hemp, but I like the housing. Idea, wouldnt hemp be a good oil filter? Holy cow.

 

[HEMIMANN]

Might be able to sell it as a dual use b*o*n*g / filter.

 

[danielmid]

Went and returned the extra RP 30-8As and the cartridge filters for the Pentastar Durango and ordered the Fram XG filters for both, money saving for a filter upgrade. Oil change tomorrow with my last 30-8A and 5 qts PUP 5-30 and 3 qts Redline 0-30.

 

[Ramerica]

Put on the Wix 57899XP, plenty of room at 3.75" tall. 1/4 inch or so gap by transmission cooling lines and 3/4" before hitting the rack. Not sure why I didn't think there was enough room before with the SRT filter. If the XG2 is 4" tall it should fit with about a 1/2" from the rack. After seeing the small inlet holes again on the 10-48 I don't know what I was thinking using that filter, it's obviously restricted, here's the OEM 339 for comparison

 

[ramffml]

Put on the Wix 57899XP, plenty of room at 3.75" tall. 1/4 inch or so gap by transmission cooling lines and 3/4" before hitting the rack. Not sure why I didn't think there was enough room before with the SRT filter. If the XG2 is 4" tall it should fit with about a 1/2" from the rack. After seeing the small inlet holes again on the 10-48 I don't know what I was thinking using that filter, it's obviously restricted, here's the OEM 339 for comparison View attachment 508169
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Well, you're trading one hypothetical problem for a real one. The RP has smaller inlet holes, why are so sure it's not enough flow?

On the other hand, as far as I can see the Wix only has a 99% effiency rating at 35 microns, vs the 99% at 25 microns for the RP so you're not catching as small particles with the Wix. I'd be more worried about that, given the lifter tick issues and how sensitive those needle bearings are to small debris getting in there and seizing up.

 

[Burla]

Put on the Wix 57899XP, plenty of room at 3.75" tall. 1/4 inch or so gap by transmission cooling lines and 3/4" before hitting the rack. Not sure why I didn't think there was enough room before with the SRT filter. If the XG2 is 4" tall it should fit with about a 1/2" from the rack. After seeing the small inlet holes again on the 10-48 I don't know what I was thinking using that filter, it's obviously restricted, here's the OEM 339 for comparison View attachment 508169
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right? Picture is worth many words they say. I had hemi tick because of a center tube with not enough holes, similar like you I posted it. It is beyond me why companies don't make stuff like they should, I'm sure those holes are stamped and it wouldnt cost more to add more holes. Just people ignoring an important function of an oil filter, not not obstruct flow is any way.

I'm pretty sure he is correct on flow as the cousin filter had a technical service bulletin on it saying do not use it on a hemi. I also agree wix xp is one of the last choice imo, but I'd take a wix over a flow issue any day of the week.

 

[Ramerica]

The Wix is temporary until 20-820 are back, lord willing. If not then Fram XG mid or large size.

The tick increased with the 10-48 and was borderline non existent when I had the small 57060XP

 

[Burla]

Makes you wonder if the 10-48 had 8 holes to start with would we even know there was an issue? Especially if those 8 were large like the other filter. Even with top filters we have to chose what evil we want to live with, so freaking dumb.

 

[danielmid]

Makes you wonder if the 10-48 had 8 holes to start with would we even know there was an issue? Especially if those 8 were large like the other filter. Even with top filters we have to chose what evil we want to live with, so freaking dumb.

That Wix 57899XP still has 6 inlet holes, slightly larger than the RP 10-48, but still smaller than the 8 holes on the Fram XG10060. But the Wix body is larger so it may be a trade-off.