Opinions on Valvoline Restore & Protect

[EdGs]

As most of you know, I did a cam/lifter (+ more) job on my Hemi about 6500 miles ago.

I am up to my 5k interval with the RedLine 5W-30.

Was curious, that since I have 207k miles on my bottom end, should I run Valvoline R&P to help clean up the bottom end since I left my pistons, rings, and bearings alone when I did my cam job?

Thoughts on this????

Btw, I love the RedLine oil, and will use it as much as I can from here out. I am a bit short at the moment, and don't want to stretch my OCI too much.

 

[Burla]

Esters have active solvency they dissolve varnish and deposits by themselves, why the original r&p which was premium restore blue was ester based. So bottom line either redline 5w30 or vrp are going to clean those up, but since all of the energy right now is towards r&p it might feel better to use it. See a voa, vrp is a great oil, if it keeps your engine as quiet as the redline, you might wanna stay with it.

 

[EdGs]

Thanks, I will give it a go.

 

[JHoward]

Ed, I had sent in to Blackstone Labs last October and December, two v I r g I n oil samples for comparison of:

VALVOLINE Restore and Protect 5w/30 on the left and VALVOLINE Extended Protection 5w/30 on the right ... these oils were purchased off the shelf at Wal mart.

 

[JHoward]

I've decided to use the VALVOLINE Restore and Protect 5w/30. I've read it's better to use that in my rubber band powered GDI engine ...

 

[Rlaf75]

I just changed the oil in my 21 5.7 last night and used valvoline r&p 5-30 synthetic. I've been using pennzoil platinum 5-20 for a couple years but ive heard good things about Valvoline r&p so I decided to try it out. With the pennzoil I noticed every once in awhile when I'd have to start and move the truck a few feet it would tick for a few seconds when I started it again a little while later. It doesnt happen regularly so I'm not really too concerned but i looked into it a bit. I watch a couple YouTube videos and from a bunch of the comments and reviews the valvoline r&p seemed to quiet the engine down. I 9nly have about 20 miles on this oil change from last night but we got below zero temps outside right now I'll have to see how the valvoline does in the longterm. Plus if I remember the valvoline r&p was a couple bucks cheaper than the pennzoil at walmart. I may add a bottle of LiquiMoly additive to it as well

 

[EdGs]

Ed, I had sent in to Blackstone Labs last October and December, two v I r g I n oil samples for comparison of:

VALVOLINE Restore and Protect 5w/30 on the left and VALVOLINE Extended Protection 5w/30 on the right ... these oils were purchased off the shelf at Wal mart.

The numbers are higher for the sheet on the right. Valvoline extended protection?

 

[Bigskyroadglide]

Here's a short anecdotal tidbit on redline 5w30.

It's very warm here in my section of Montana this February for some unknown reason, the last couple of days it was in the 70s.

Being the opportunist that I am, I decided to get out my RCSB supercharged 5.7 hemi out of winter storage and exercise the various components that have been sitting idle since September.

The battery on trickle was fully charged and the gas tank I stored full with real gas in premium version mixed with a bottle of redline S-1.

I push the start button and used clear flood mode to stir up a bit of pressure prior to the actual start.

Once started i stuck my head under the hood expecting noise of some variation, either a header exhaust leak or a lifter tick or something.

Nothing, no noise, no tick, nothing, just normal sounds of a running engine, like it had been started every day for the last 5 months.

That's redline, now you can say, clear flood mode gave you oil pressure, absolutely it did, I don't think it lubed every lifter and if it did, it did a hell of a job.

So say what you want, I think I'm through trying different versions of oil. Unless they stop making redline.

My opinion.

PS, it was a great day for long, wide, open, straight roads in Montana.

 

[HEMIMANN]

From what I read & discussed with Travis, esters are excellent and keeping clean, but not at cleaning. Esters are good at holding additives and contaminants in suspension.

We don't know what the magic detergent additive blend in R&P is. In their introductory video they insinuated it was the recipe more than any single ingredient that does it. But there's been plenty of documentation now that R&P works as a heavy detergent scrubbing engine parts.

Esters act more as dispersant additives, being polar molecules. Calcium and magnesium act more as detergent additives.

Question - why the concern? Were you not changing oil at 5k OCI's and / or using cheaper oils that leave deposits?

 

[Daw14]

After experiencing Redline 5w30 , in my Hemi , it is the only oil I will use in it .

 

[Burla]

It is a known thing that ester based Valvoline blue restore was esters and not only clean but cleaned too well which is probably why it was discoed. Then auto rx also ester based turns sludge to ash on the dip stick I have seen that numerous times.

 

[Burla]

It even said on the bottle use this stuff once, not as a everyday oil. VRP is better for everyday in theory, meaning my guess it is much more mild especially with what the guys said in that video. 15:40 mark he talks about the old restore blue product, ester based cleaned so well it would clog stuff. Watch for a couple minutes after that 15 mark, we wont say esters don't clean after that. That is what lake and the rd guys at Valvoline were saying, but that product was north of 30% esters = just like adding a ton of solvent to the sump.

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[EdGs]

......Question - why the concern? Were you not changing oil at 5k OCI's and / or using cheaper oils that leave deposits?

From ~28K miles until my lifter/cam failure at 201K, I changed oil by the OCI in the evic. Always used PP, 5W-20 and Fram XG10060 until ~100K or so, went to PP 5W-30 and Fram XG2 until 2 or 3 changes before failure, went to FE2 filter.

I replaced and/or cleaned the top end, but did nothing with pistons and bearings, except cleaning the piston tops.

Just curiousity on my part.

 

[Burla]

From ~28K miles until my lifter/cam failure at 201K, I changed oil by the OCI in the evic. Always used PP, 5W-20 and Fram XG10060 until ~100K or so, went to PP 5W-30 and Fram XG2 until 2 or 3 changes before failure, went to FE2 filter.

I replaced and/or cleaned the top end, but did nothing with pistons and bearings, except cleaning the piston tops.

Just curiousity on my part.

Did you ever get a mis fire code? Over 200k miles whatever you doing seamed to work for ya no matter how it ended.

 

[EdGs]

No misfire code, almost as soon as I heard the noise, I stopped driving it, drove maybe 150 miles. I have no idea how long before that it happened, I just happened to have my door open when I first heard it. Absolutely could not hear it in the cab.

 

[EdGs]

Money is a little tight, so I couldn't buy the RedLine 5W-30 at the moment, plus I'm right at the 5K mark since using it.

 

[Sherman Bird]

As most of you know, I did a cam/lifter (+ more) job on my Hemi about 6500 miles ago.

I am up to my 5k interval with the RedLine 5W-30.

Was curious, that since I have 207k miles on my bottom end, should I run Valvoline R&P to help clean up the bottom end since I left my pistons, rings, and bearings alone when I did my cam job?

Thoughts on this????

Btw, I love the RedLine oil, and will use it as much as I can from here out. I am a bit short at the moment, and don't want to stretch my OCI too much.

After the Motor Oil Geek explained in detail what Valvoline R&P does, I tried it on several GDI engines, including my wife's 2014 KIA Sorento 3.3L GDI V-6 with now, over 150,000 miles. I also used it on several other vehicles belonging to customers.
Bottom line? IT FRIGGIN WORKS!!!
The cruddy sludge that it cleaned out of my own car AND the others (those with GDI) was astounding!
BUT!!! Be careful to follow Valvoline's instructions as to not exceeding 2 or 3 oil changes in a row, lest you gum up the works with what got cleaned off. I also did my changes at 3000 miles, so the crud didn't gum up the filter.
My own (wife's) car runs WAY better than it ever did before. Now, to be honest, I NOW run Techron in the gas every 4th fill up.. and THAT helps too... but this is after cleaning out the other crud!

So, in conclusion, I'd try it. YMMV! Pax Vobiscum!

 

[HEMIMANN]

Ok, PP doesn't have the detergency extreme level that PUP does, self-described by Shell SOPUS. PP kept pistons relatively clean in the old Sequence IIIG test, but PUP kept them much cleaner.

Did you track what OCI miles were with the magic oil change light? Was it frequent or longer than 5k miles?

At any rate, now that we know you used plain old PP without extra detergent additives, yes you will likely benefit by using a scrubbing oil such as R&P now. But be careful - ready what they recommend for oil filter change intervals, or you'll be running the filter in bypass mode before your oil change is due.

 

[EdGs]

After the Motor Oil Geek explained in detail what Valvoline R&P does, I tried it on several GDI engines, including my wife's 2014 KIA Sorento 3.3L GDI V-6 with now, over 150,000 miles. I also used it on several other vehicles belonging to customers.
Bottom line? IT FRIGGIN WORKS!!!
The cruddy sludge that it cleaned out of my own car AND the others (those with GDI) was astounding!
BUT!!! Be careful to follow Valvoline's instructions as to not exceeding 2 or 3 oil changes in a row, lest you gum up the works with what got cleaned off. I also did my changes at 3000 miles, so the crud didn't gum up the filter.
My own (wife's) car runs WAY better than it ever did before. Now, to be honest, I NOW run Techron in the gas every 4th fill up.. and THAT helps too... but this is after cleaning out the other crud!

So, in conclusion, I'd try it. YMMV! Pax Vobiscum!

Oil changes were according to OCI, so right close to 10k mile intervals. A few were shorter but not much, a couple k miles at the most.

My local WalMart never has PUP in 5W-30 whenever I look for it.

I was worried about what might get trapped in the filter, so was planning a filter change around 1650 to 2500 miles. That way, I can replace the filter 2 or 3 times over the course of 5k miles

 

[ramffml]

My 2 cents: it's a one trick pony. It does clean very well, but it's still an API oil and other oils not restrained by those licenses can be better formulated. UOA's show it doesn't have a very long run time (for a start).

Other oils like HPL give you exceptional cleaning ability, while still exceeding API specs everywhere else. You pay more for something like HPL too of course so fair is fair, but I'd never use VRP in a hemi. I might consider it in other cars depending on price and what I'm looking to achieve.