Question: Mirrors to fold when truck is shut off

[Yazen]

Hello everyone:

There is a button on the driver's door to fold the side mirrors, I am wanting to make it fold when I shut off the engine, thinking to add a relay and have it connected to that button.

Anyone has done that? any advice or suggestion is highly appreciated.

My truck is 2018 Ram 1500 5.7

Thank you,
Yazen

 

[chrisbh17]

Relay(s) won't work . It's not a direct electrical connection, the door modules are on the can bus and respond to messages to fold or unfold the mirrors.

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[crash68]

It could be possible to use a relay, but it would need to pulse when the truck turns off(and on if you want them to open back up). The contacts of the relay would need to jump the switch on the door but that is part of a circuit board so it's not the easiest thing to make happen.
If you want your mirrors to fold/open with the truck, look at buy a Tazer for your Ram
https://www.zautomotive.com/product/tazer-ram/
It's one of the live functions along with a quite a few others, including line lock, light show, in-motion navigation, windows from keyfob, etc

 

[MADDOG]

Lots of discussion on this subject was captured in the 4th Gen DIY section under the Alfa OBD thread.

 

[Yazen]

It could be possible to use a relay, but it would need to pulse when the truck turns off(and on if you want them to open back up). The contacts of the relay would need to jump the switch on the door but that is part of a circuit board so it's not the easiest thing to make happen.
If you want your mirrors to fold/open with the truck, look at buy a Tazer for your Ram
https://www.zautomotive.com/product/tazer-ram/
It's one of the live functions along with a quite a few others, including line lock, light show, in-motion navigation, windows from keyfob, etc

Thank you, I just bought one! Hope it can do what I wanted to achieve. Thank you

 

[kad]

Thank you, I just bought one! Hope it can do what I wanted to achieve. Thank you

It's on the feature list for the Tazer, just be aware that you need to leave the Tazer attached all of the time in order for it to do the mirror auto-fold.

-K

 

[Simpleman]

I really dont understand why you would want to do this its not that difficult to turn the key and push a button

 

[Yazen]

It's on the feature list for the Tazer, just be aware that you need to leave the Tazer attached all of the time in order for it to do the mirror auto-fold.

-K

I will have it installed next week, will keep you posted. Any tips for the install?

Thank you,
Yazen

 

[Yazen]

It could be possible to use a relay, but it would need to pulse when the truck turns off(and on if you want them to open back up). The contacts of the relay would need to jump the switch on the door but that is part of a circuit board so it's not the easiest thing to make happen.
If you want your mirrors to fold/open with the truck, look at buy a Tazer for your Ram
https://www.zautomotive.com/product/tazer-ram/
It's one of the live functions along with a quite a few others, including line lock, light show, in-motion navigation, windows from keyfob, etc

I removed the radio and the security device to install the security bypass, but the two plugs do not plug anywhere in the bypass, I am not sure what am i missing here. Can you please assist me with this? see pictures of the bypass module, where should I plug those 5 plugs?

Thank you



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[Jimmy07]

I removed the radio and the security device to install the security bypass, but the two plugs do not plug anywhere in the bypass, I am not sure what am i missing here. Can you please assist me with this? see pictures of the bypass module, where should I plug those 5 plugs?

Thank you

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That is not the type of bypass that REPLACES the security gateway module behind the radio. That is the type that bypasses the SGM by plugging into the OBD port. The yellow arrow plugs into your current OBD port. You’ll unclip your current OBD port and replace it with the green arrow connector. The green arrow connector will now serve as the regular non-bypassed OBD port, and a dealer can plug into it and his tool will work. The red arrow connector is the bypassed OBD port, and the one you will plug the device into, and you can tuck it out of the way. If you look up above the brake pedal, you’ll see two junction blocks with a bunch of those same white and green connectors plugged into them. Just find an empty spot on the respective white and green connector blocks and plug the new ones in.

 

[Yazen]

That is not the type of bypass that REPLACES the security gateway module behind the radio. That is the type that bypasses the SGM by plugging into the OBD port. The yellow arrow plugs into your current OBD port. You’ll unclip your current OBD port and replace it with the green arrow connector. The green arrow connector will now serve as the regular non-bypassed OBD port, and a dealer can plug into it and his tool will work. The red arrow connector is the bypassed OBD port, and the one you will plug the device into, and you can tuck it out of the way. If you look up above the brake pedal, you’ll see two junction blocks with a bunch of those same white and green connectors plugged into them. Just find an empty spot on the respective white and green connector blocks and plug the new ones in.

Thank you for the quick response. So to make sure I understand the whole process, I still need to disconnect the security device from behind the radio, right? And nothing connects to the wires?

2) the harness i have is just to so Tazer can be plugged in all the time and won't use the current OBD port, right?

I am a little confused, the instructions says to plug into the connectors of the security device behind the radio:

https://zautomotive.com/zpu/instructions/RAMGCSCWBypass.pdf

But I received the harness and Tazer Ram OBD, am I missing something?

Thank you,
Yazen

 

[Jimmy07]

Thank you for the quick response. So to make sure I understand the whole process, I still need to disconnect the security device from behind the radio, right? And nothing connects to the wires?

2) the harness i have is just to so Tazer can be plugged in all the time and won't use the current OBD port, right?

I am a little confused, the instructions says to plug into the connectors of the security device behind the radio:

https://zautomotive.com/zpu/instructions/RAMGCSCWBypass.pdf

But I received the harness and Tazer Ram OBD, am I missing something?

Thank you,
Yazen

No, do not unplug the security gateway from behind the radio. For whatever reason, they did not send you the type of bypass that those instructions are for, but what they sent you will work just the same. It is designed so you can leave the tazer plugged in out of sight, and still have an open, unbypassed OBD port in the factory location.

 

[Yazen]

No, do not unplug the security gateway from behind the radio. For whatever reason, they did not send you the type of bypass that those instructions are for, but what they sent you will work just the same. It is designed so you can leave the tazer plugged in out of sight, and still have an open, unbypassed OBD port in the factory location.

But I thought 2018 ram has a security feature that does not let users make changes in the settings without a security bypass.. Are you saying I can still make changes without the bypass?

Also, how to set mirror folding with tazer? i dont see such option in the software?

Thank you once again,
Yazen

 

[Jimmy07]

But I thought 2018 ram has a security feature that does not let users make changes in the settings without a security bypass.. Are you saying I can still make changes without the bypass?

Also, how to set mirror folding with tazer? i dont see such option in the software?

Thank you once again,
Yazen

That contraption they sent you IS a security gateway bypass. It just does it in a different method than the one that replaces the actual security module.
I’ve never used a tazer before, so I wouldn’t know about the settings.

 

[Yazen]

That contraption they sent you IS a security gateway bypass. It just does it in a different method than the one that replaces the actual security module.
I’ve never used a tazer before, so I wouldn’t know about the settings.

Oh I see, thank you very much for all your help. I will install it and see how things go.

Thank you

 

[crash68]

how to set mirror folding with tazer? i dont see such option in the software?

The directions on Z Automotive website lists how to make changes. For live functions like the Mirror fold the vehicle has to be running.

https://zautomotive.com/zpu/instructions/tazer_RAM_user_guide_12.0.4.pdf

 

[Yazen]

The directions on Z Automotive website lists how to make changes. For live functions like the Mirror fold the vehicle has to be running.

https://zautomotive.com/zpu/instructions/tazer_RAM_user_guide_12.0.4.pdf

Perfecrt, thank you very much.

Yazen

 

[Yazen]

That is not the type of bypass that REPLACES the security gateway module behind the radio. That is the type that bypasses the SGM by plugging into the OBD port. The yellow arrow plugs into your current OBD port. You’ll unclip your current OBD port and replace it with the green arrow connector. The green arrow connector will now serve as the regular non-bypassed OBD port, and a dealer can plug into it and his tool will work. The red arrow connector is the bypassed OBD port, and the one you will plug the device into, and you can tuck it out of the way. If you look up above the brake pedal, you’ll see two junction blocks with a bunch of those same white and green connectors plugged into them. Just find an empty spot on the respective white and green connector blocks and plug the new ones in.

My truck doesn't have any white junction block! Is that even possible? I really looked but couldn't find one. Am I missing something? I will look again tomorrow morning but thought I'd ask here for guidance.

Thank you